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Originally Posted by ohiogrinder
I don't consider Venom to be black metal at all. they were a faster-than-average NWOBHM band that sang about Satan. not saying I don't like them, cause I love them, but they're not black metal.
Bathory to me, were the first black metal band.
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Originally Posted by ObscureInfinity
I consider Venom speed/thrash.
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Wrong.
Black Metal today is not the same Black Metal of 1982. Just because you don't always hear Venom in the latest Black Metal craze doesn't mean Venom magically is no longer Black Metal. Revisionist history can fuck off and die.