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razoredge · April 16th, 2008, 03:27 PM

I place no morality on this at all, Im sure a good percentage would place me low in the sexually moral department.

I just thought and should add in all fairness, that I was raised in a time when "sex" was much more repressed than it is today, not religiously but just the traditional = virgin, one partner for life kind of thing. Like dont look at girl in that fashion, girls should be respected and you shouldnt be trying to get them naked. Never stopped us though but we were far more reserved and the girls really were. And it was my generation that blew the whole sex thing out of the water, not that older generations did not have their fun as well, it was just kept behind closed doors, where in reality is where it belongs, it is supposed to be a special personal thing. Of course we know parents & society repressed this because of worries about unwanted pregnancies, becoming trapped in life determining situations too early, ect. But we were much pruder outwardly, cant say the same for what went on in the mind or how boys talked to boys about such stuff but we controled it outwardly... a key point to my views on teenage "johnny". As I pointed out in my one example we also did not harrass the people that were different, so in this case of sexual morals we also may have been exposed to higher morals as not to bother people. Plus it was the 70's with peace, love and flowers still in the air... lol.

Yes I know something went wrong prior to transgender birth, this is why they have the huge delemma. "Here I sit, born with a boys body but I have the desires to be a girl"... no questioning it. I feel for them and am glad I did not have this issue, as we are all thankful for our health and anything in life that doesnt put us up against the wall. But I know they are born that way the same with any femish boys or manly girls who assume those roles in a gay relationship. Im not sure if any youthful transgender leanings could come from after birth developement but I do believe many gay leanings are. I also know we have one side with full propaganda to offer youth the consideration to become gay or "give it a try, its natural" I believe some kids have various problems or occurances in their life that would send them this way and we make it easier every year. I've never felt making things easy on kids to be positive and Im steadfast on that one. Nothing was easy for us and by the time I was 30 I was glad and understood why.

The black man white woman thing... I think that is jelousy and intimidation but I suppose racism could make some feel sickened. I know many guys that say they would not touch a black girl and I... pervert that I am... cant see it. As for pursueing for a mate my views are the same as with "johnny", your looking for trouble in many ways, not for being beat but many many others and why force the delemma that would always be present. There is also more things to consider than heavy pounding hearts.

Masterbate children to calm them down.... that is friggin funny. I will say with our "tolerant", "political correct" direction I wouldnt be surprised if theres some special interest group in 100 or so years pressing for it to be done. Parents can sign a permission slip for the school masterbater to jerk the kids off when they get "frisky". Seriously, that is how I look at all these in our face ball asses. The world especially America is just loaded with people with their noses in everyone elses business, thats why everyone needs or is told they need counseling today... "ya just got to have it". When I was young if you went to a counseler (sp) you were one fucked up person, today its like they are telling us the opposite... what is that I hear?... is that clinking of change in the background ?

I think my example of how I came by sexuality to be a good example, nothing was forced fed down my throat. Everything is force fed today. Media and special interests groups see to it that its done that way. Deny it and I call bullshit.

I also call BS toward your life expectancy thing. It is an average based on more frequent youth deaths. Survivors that did not have to do all the silly battles mankind insists on lived long lives as is today... not counting the medical advancements that add more years to other genetical faults. Before I get my bones jumped for that one let me say my mother died at 36 (brain cancer) and my father at 67 (white cell cancer) so Im not putting my genes all high and mighty.

I do base my views on what I openly see and evaluate and I believe I do it fairly. I dont need some "scientist" or bias interpretation of some study to see things for what they are. I would suggest others do the same, that is how the strong survived and how the fairly non disfunctional people became the majority... grit, practical, resourceful, logical and attentive... not because some scientist proposed a hypothisis and collected data or some high pressure interest group told them how to act and think.

April 16th, 2008, 03:27 PM	#53 (permalink)
razoredge Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,216	I place no morality on this at all, Im sure a good percentage would place me low in the sexually moral department. I just thought and should add in all fairness, that I was raised in a time when "sex" was much more repressed than it is today, not religiously but just the traditional = virgin, one partner for life kind of thing. Like dont look at girl in that fashion, girls should be respected and you shouldnt be trying to get them naked. Never stopped us though but we were far more reserved and the girls really were. And it was my generation that blew the whole sex thing out of the water, not that older generations did not have their fun as well, it was just kept behind closed doors, where in reality is where it belongs, it is supposed to be a special personal thing. Of course we know parents & society repressed this because of worries about unwanted pregnancies, becoming trapped in life determining situations too early, ect. But we were much pruder outwardly, cant say the same for what went on in the mind or how boys talked to boys about such stuff but we controled it outwardly... a key point to my views on teenage "johnny". As I pointed out in my one example we also did not harrass the people that were different, so in this case of sexual morals we also may have been exposed to higher morals as not to bother people. Plus it was the 70's with peace, love and flowers still in the air... lol. Yes I know something went wrong prior to transgender birth, this is why they have the huge delemma. "Here I sit, born with a boys body but I have the desires to be a girl"... no questioning it. I feel for them and am glad I did not have this issue, as we are all thankful for our health and anything in life that doesnt put us up against the wall. But I know they are born that way the same with any femish boys or manly girls who assume those roles in a gay relationship. Im not sure if any youthful transgender leanings could come from after birth developement but I do believe many gay leanings are. I also know we have one side with full propaganda to offer youth the consideration to become gay or "give it a try, its natural" I believe some kids have various problems or occurances in their life that would send them this way and we make it easier every year. I've never felt making things easy on kids to be positive and Im steadfast on that one. Nothing was easy for us and by the time I was 30 I was glad and understood why. The black man white woman thing... I think that is jelousy and intimidation but I suppose racism could make some feel sickened. I know many guys that say they would not touch a black girl and I... pervert that I am... cant see it. As for pursueing for a mate my views are the same as with "johnny", your looking for trouble in many ways, not for being beat but many many others and why force the delemma that would always be present. There is also more things to consider than heavy pounding hearts. Masterbate children to calm them down.... that is friggin funny. I will say with our "tolerant", "political correct" direction I wouldnt be surprised if theres some special interest group in 100 or so years pressing for it to be done. Parents can sign a permission slip for the school masterbater to jerk the kids off when they get "frisky". Seriously, that is how I look at all these in our face ball asses. The world especially America is just loaded with people with their noses in everyone elses business, thats why everyone needs or is told they need counseling today... "ya just got to have it". When I was young if you went to a counseler (sp) you were one fucked up person, today its like they are telling us the opposite... what is that I hear?... is that clinking of change in the background ? I think my example of how I came by sexuality to be a good example, nothing was forced fed down my throat. Everything is force fed today. Media and special interests groups see to it that its done that way. Deny it and I call bullshit. I also call BS toward your life expectancy thing. It is an average based on more frequent youth deaths. Survivors that did not have to do all the silly battles mankind insists on lived long lives as is today... not counting the medical advancements that add more years to other genetical faults. Before I get my bones jumped for that one let me say my mother died at 36 (brain cancer) and my father at 67 (white cell cancer) so Im not putting my genes all high and mighty. I do base my views on what I openly see and evaluate and I believe I do it fairly. I dont need some "scientist" or bias interpretation of some study to see things for what they are. I would suggest others do the same, that is how the strong survived and how the fairly non disfunctional people became the majority... grit, practical, resourceful, logical and attentive... not because some scientist proposed a hypothisis and collected data or some high pressure interest group told them how to act and think.