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Originally Posted by Blowtus
Yep... so we're either left with 'ends' that we define which are interchangeable, or 'ends' that seem to have no power to describe action. I guess it's getting kind of semantic here. Somewhere in the combination of 'self satisfaction' and 'personal values' seems to lie what I'm after - I guess because I'm not convinced that values arise consciously out of any self satisfaction drive, they can not be altered at will, they are as much a part of us as the 'self satisfaction' drive.
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yea, I think you're hinting at something really important here. it's getting late here, I think we should definitely explore this. post what comes to mind, and I'll try to bounce back some ideas tomorrow when I'm refreshed and relaxed if not tonight.