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razoredge · June 1st, 2009, 06:07 PM

I didnt read all of it. My feeling is if you take a nation in a nationalistic state of mind. Ideally you need both... capitalism in a socialist attitude.

You are a capitalist society as a inate desire to prosper (be successful) as a society/nation. However.... society is a key word here society / socialism, its not a poser phrase as it has become, you want to talk about "your society", "be a part of a society", "our society" its not suppose be a term used to indicate concern then turn your back and steal all you can grab as capitolism has become and been in the past. You need the element of socialism in a society or your nothing but phonys. Anytime you get a group of people together you have a society. Now if your not a poser, you want your society to prosper, be secure. This includes everybody, except maybe the inate worthless who can tow the line or starve, It shouldnt mean everybody "works for extremely low wages" or dances to the tune "of the state", it should mean that your workforce is payed appropiately for their contribution to their society, there-by making it possible for them to live respectibly in your society. Nobody getting peanuts and nobody finding tax write offs on some stupid horse ranch, sending money to funny accounts abroad rather than getting their tax deductions by simply paying the work force appropriately and spending profits back into development. I guess Im saying no rich fuckers and no working poor and no disappearing money.

Everyone that works performs a needed service, needed being the key word here, if someones function is needed you dont kick them in the teeth so you can be a cheap rich fucker. The only sense of totalitarian government Im seeing here is simply one that makes sure the shakers and rollers arent using everyone. Its my opinion that this is what has failed with communism, that those in charge used it to suit their greed or disallusions, nearly the same example of the human element flaw that exists as the societal failure of capitalism.

Makes sense to me anyhow........ lol

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razoredge Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,029	I didnt read all of it. My feeling is if you take a nation in a nationalistic state of mind. Ideally you need both... capitalism in a socialist attitude. You are a capitalist society as a inate desire to prosper (be successful) as a society/nation. However.... society is a key word here society / socialism, its not a poser phrase as it has become, you want to talk about "your society", "be a part of a society", "our society" its not suppose be a term used to indicate concern then turn your back and steal all you can grab as capitolism has become and been in the past. You need the element of socialism in a society or your nothing but phonys. Anytime you get a group of people together you have a society. Now if your not a poser, you want your society to prosper, be secure. This includes everybody, except maybe the inate worthless who can tow the line or starve, It shouldnt mean everybody "works for extremely low wages" or dances to the tune "of the state", it should mean that your workforce is payed appropiately for their contribution to their society, there-by making it possible for them to live respectibly in your society. Nobody getting peanuts and nobody finding tax write offs on some stupid horse ranch, sending money to funny accounts abroad rather than getting their tax deductions by simply paying the work force appropriately and spending profits back into development. I guess Im saying no rich fuckers and no working poor and no disappearing money. Everyone that works performs a needed service, needed being the key word here, if someones function is needed you dont kick them in the teeth so you can be a cheap rich fucker. The only sense of totalitarian government Im seeing here is simply one that makes sure the shakers and rollers arent using everyone. Its my opinion that this is what has failed with communism, that those in charge used it to suit their greed or disallusions, nearly the same example of the human element flaw that exists as the societal failure of capitalism. Makes sense to me anyhow........ lol __________________ into this wild abyss, the womb of nature and perhaps her grave, of neither sea, nor shore, nor air, nor fire... but all these in their pregnant causes mixed confusedly, and which thus must ever fight, unless the almighty maker then ordain his dark materials to create more worlds, into this wild abyss the wary fiend stood on the brink of hell and looked a while, pondering his voyage Last edited by razoredge : June 1st, 2009 at 06:16 PM.