Why is Abigail Williams named Abigail Williams? - Page 2

SoulEvisceration666 · April 21st, 2008, 01:41 PM

Norma Jean is fuckin terrible.

Seansi · April 28th, 2008, 12:39 AM

Abigail Williams - Possibly the evilest (if thats a word,) manipulative, epic, character in literature. Great pick for a band name, especially a Black Metal band name.
Norma Jean - bad music.

just thought I'ed give the thread my two cents ;]

isolation_years · May 1st, 2008, 10:24 PM

hahaha i have never heard this band but i came on too say norma jean does in fact, suck ass

DrkLrdViper666 · October 1st, 2008, 03:07 AM

I Totally Agree! Norma Jean Sucks Big Ol' Donkey Dicks!

xgramx · October 1st, 2008, 07:03 PM

Norma Jean's first CD was decent, the rest is pretty garbage, and redeemer is just a really shitty rip-off of Botch. Their newest CD is terrible don't waste your time to even listen to it on the net.

Alteredmindeath · October 3rd, 2008, 01:04 PM

abigail williams is the devils witch who was burned alive and crucified and still burns in hell to this day.

Meanspark · October 3rd, 2008, 11:45 PM

abigail williams is the name of a woman who was considered as a 'witch' during the salem witch trial in 1692 in Salem, Massachusetts. Maybe you have seen the movie 'The crucible' starring Daniel Day-Lewis and Winona Ryder (Abigail). Anyway, I think the bandname is pretty cool

circus_brimstone · October 5th, 2008, 01:10 AM

Originally it was a play by Arthur Miller, criticizing McCarthy's communist "witch hunts" of the '50s. Miller was a target.

sorceron · October 7th, 2008, 01:17 PM

From a recent interview:

True black metal bands, especially the elite, all have strong iconic identities. Some of them have to do with fiction, religion, and others are based in cultural histories or national folklore. When deciding on the name of this band, I looked to our history – I didn't look to Scandinavia for the answer, nor did I want to resort to some mystical, fictional, or typical metal name. I wanted it to be truly American, and truly sinister. The Crucible, a story by Arthur Miller that most of us had to read in school growing up, brought me to Abigail Williams. Abigail Williams was a young girl in New England who accused many people of witchcraft, and due to her false testimonies, sent most of the accused to their deaths. This story, although liberal in its exaggerations, really affected me. The Accuser is always relevant in society. In America there were the witch trials, the Red Scare, and now terrorism. Everyone is always quick to point a finger; we do it out of fear, prejudice, and because of things we don't understand. So, the Accuser will always be present in society. Abigail Williams really stuck out to me, not only due to the above mentioned, but also because it possessed that iconic quality, while still sounding very American. We want people to know where we are from, and that even though it may not be cool/trendy, we are proud of our American culture.

Meanspark · October 7th, 2008, 07:15 PM

You are right circus_brimstone, they have build this story on historic facts, but between us, it's all politic. I have read a lot about that part of history, In the movie they speak about Day-Lewis and Ryder in love. The history fact is a bit different, she was 11 and he was 40, they never met each other. He was barman in the village.

We can say that AW is a metaphor, but I see nothing but a witch (to be honest). Many books used the name to create an evil character but is the name evil? I dont know.

DEFIED · October 8th, 2008, 02:29 PM

That was a pretty good, thorough explanation Ken

you are awesome

April 21st, 2008, 01:41 PM	#26 (permalink)
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DrkLrdViper666 Velveeta Bros. Frontman Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hoschton, Ga. Posts: 54	I Totally Agree! Norma Jean Sucks Big Ol' Donkey Dicks! __________________ The Dark Lord Of Metal www.myspace.com/velveetabrothersrocks www.myspace.com/darkevillordviper666 PROUD LOCAL SUPPORTER & FAN OF HALCYON WAY & ECLIPSED BY SANITY!

October 3rd, 2008, 11:45 PM	#32 (permalink)
Meanspark Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 353	abigail williams is the name of a woman who was considered as a 'witch' during the salem witch trial in 1692 in Salem, Massachusetts. Maybe you have seen the movie 'The crucible' starring Daniel Day-Lewis and Winona Ryder (Abigail). Anyway, I think the bandname is pretty cool __________________ Meanspark.com

October 5th, 2008, 01:10 AM	#33 (permalink)
circus_brimstone Jason Jordan Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,074	Originally it was a play by Arthur Miller, criticizing McCarthy's communist "witch hunts" of the '50s. Miller was a target. __________________ Staff member of: B F G M M2 W

October 7th, 2008, 01:17 PM	#34 (permalink)
sorceron ken Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: nyc Posts: 1,613	From a recent interview: True black metal bands, especially the elite, all have strong iconic identities. Some of them have to do with fiction, religion, and others are based in cultural histories or national folklore. When deciding on the name of this band, I looked to our history – I didn't look to Scandinavia for the answer, nor did I want to resort to some mystical, fictional, or typical metal name. I wanted it to be truly American, and truly sinister. The Crucible, a story by Arthur Miller that most of us had to read in school growing up, brought me to Abigail Williams. Abigail Williams was a young girl in New England who accused many people of witchcraft, and due to her false testimonies, sent most of the accused to their deaths. This story, although liberal in its exaggerations, really affected me. The Accuser is always relevant in society. In America there were the witch trials, the Red Scare, and now terrorism. Everyone is always quick to point a finger; we do it out of fear, prejudice, and because of things we don't understand. So, the Accuser will always be present in society. Abigail Williams really stuck out to me, not only due to the above mentioned, but also because it possessed that iconic quality, while still sounding very American. We want people to know where we are from, and that even though it may not be cool/trendy, we are proud of our American culture. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/abigailwilliams

April 28th, 2008, 12:39 AM	#27 (permalink)
Seansi Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 12	Abigail Williams - Possibly the evilest (if thats a word,) manipulative, epic, character in literature. Great pick for a band name, especially a Black Metal band name. Norma Jean - bad music. just thought I'ed give the thread my two cents ;]

May 1st, 2008, 10:24 PM	#28 (permalink)
isolation_years Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 1,050	hahaha i have never heard this band but i came on too say norma jean does in fact, suck ass

October 1st, 2008, 07:03 PM	#30 (permalink)
xgramx Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 70	Norma Jean's first CD was decent, the rest is pretty garbage, and redeemer is just a really shitty rip-off of Botch. Their newest CD is terrible don't waste your time to even listen to it on the net.

October 3rd, 2008, 01:04 PM	#31 (permalink)
Alteredmindeath SpellJammer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Beyond the realm of the mind Posts: 3,071	abigail williams is the devils witch who was burned alive and crucified and still burns in hell to this day.

October 7th, 2008, 07:15 PM	#35 (permalink)
Meanspark Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 353	You are right circus_brimstone, they have build this story on historic facts, but between us, it's all politic. I have read a lot about that part of history, In the movie they speak about Day-Lewis and Ryder in love. The history fact is a bit different, she was 11 and he was 40, they never met each other. He was barman in the village. We can say that AW is a metaphor, but I see nothing but a witch (to be honest). Many books used the name to create an evil character but is the name evil? I dont know. __________________ Meanspark.com

October 8th, 2008, 02:29 PM	#36 (permalink)
DEFIED Morris Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 29	That was a pretty good, thorough explanation Ken you are awesome __________________ http://www.myspace.com/defied1 Last edited by sorceron : October 9th, 2008 at 02:33 AM.