FOR FUCKS SAKE - RAW TRACKS ARE NOT "STEMS"

[MEGA DAVE]

hmmm, at least a clear answer! thanks!

[DanLights]

Originally Posted by MEGA DAVE

hmmm, at least a clear answer! thanks!

Sorry if it came out douchey, it wasn't my intention, just wanted to avoid confusion by answering clearly. Your question was "am I right?" and my answer was "you are wrong". Maybe if I had said "no, you're not right" it would've sounded better

[AudioGeekZine]

Part of that confusion may be from seeing "double-track each guitar". If there are two guitarists that's 4 recordings.

[Plendakor]

Σ guitar riffs = rhythm guitar stem.wav
guitar solos = guitars solos stem.wav
keyboard solos - keys solos stem.wav
or
Σ solos = solos stem.wav
?

and what about harmonies, do you include them in the rhythm stem or solo stem and get a stem of them and then a steamed hot dog ?

[DanLights]

The hot dog would be nice not sure I understand your question 100%, but there's no strict rules on how to group your stems, it depends on what you're doing it for and what whoever is receiving them requires (for example stem mastering, most likely the mastering engineer will tell you what he needs and how), although I would usually separate leads from rhythm guitars, they have different places in the mix most of the time

[Arsenu,]

i hope you don't mind me asking, but i can't recall ever hearing the term "stems" just a few years back. does anyone know how long has it been around?

[egan.]

A long time. I'm not sure whether it came over from video/film or not but I run into it more on that side (dialog, music, sound fx, etc). I think we started hearing about it a lot because of the rockband leaks and also because home engineering has lead to stem mastering becoming more popular.

[Nimvi]

Originally Posted by Soundlurker

People here keep asking me how much mastering costs when they really mean mixing. At least they are not native speakers, but still really annoying to have to explain it every time.

Oh my GOD yes. I'm constantly having this issue as well. To the point where people just give the wrong credits in their product, despite me clearly telling them that it's NOT what I did.

Doing a mix for a cinema documentary.
Go see the premiere.
Casting-screen.
Audio Mastering: *my name*
*sigh*

Ah well, around where I live, nobody has ever heard of an audio engineer anyway. Not a single person. They all seem to think that amazing productions naturally sound the way they do from the moment you put a fisherprice mic in front of someone.

[dan weapon]

hahaha, I have noticed this as well but I guess I'm ambivalent enough to people's ignorance to avoid posting about it. I'm glad someone has though!

Kinda reminds me of JBroll and his "A TUBESCREAMER IS NOT A FUCKING CLEAN BOOST YOU FUCKING MORON" rants. Except JBroll had more references to coffee and string theory.

[TheBeville]

If I'm honest, I'm more annoyed when people refer to impulse responses as 'impulses'. I know many people here, many of those 5 times the audio engineer I am, use 'impulses' but the pedantic arsehole in me can't help but get annoyed every time I see this. Impulses are the sine sweep or fast burst sent through the environment (speaker cab, room, etc.) you want to get a 'response' of, which is then deconvolved to give the impulse response and used to show how sound would respond in the aforementioned environment. /rant

[RedDog]

^ jargon. I use impulses every time. Brain impulses to my limbs and shit, but I use them.

[everybody's x]

Originally Posted by cyril_v

Come up with a short n sweet name for this and people would be more inclined to use it in place of stems.

Tracks?