First Thrash Band Ever ??!?! - Page 2

mdmatt4ever · January 21st, 2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by THEBALDGUYFROMBLACKLODGEVIDEO

Right. Those days they played for Donna Summer

well slayer at first wasn't thrash, they played fast covesr. like someone said at first overkill played fast punk covers so they weren't really thrash. not sure about bands but certain songs sounded thrash like before 1982
motorhead- ace of spades
black sabbath- symptom of the universe
twisted sister- under the blade
accept- fast as a shark
twisted sister- tear it loose

Frankieebotz · January 29th, 2008, 07:02 PM

Zeppelin may have made the mold but Sabbath crushed the mold into a fine powder and snorted it! Now that's fucking metal!

THEBALDGUYFROMBLACKLODGEVIDEO · January 29th, 2008, 07:19 PM

^ That's an excellent metaphore, my friend!

DumbAss · January 30th, 2008, 05:23 AM

Well, this is one serious riff from '74:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHQk6HFn4rE

naOkO benOire · February 1st, 2008, 05:43 PM

Iam not sure but if the thread starter means realy speed n thrash and not anyknids of other rock, so i think my first thrash album was nearly taking over and under the influnces from OVER KILL. But nearly the same time i got The Walls Of Jericho from Helloween.

But the first record kicks me off was Slayer `South Of Heaven, Reign In Blood, Kreator `Endless Pain and Extreme Agression and Sodom`s `Agent Orange. Metallicas Master Of Puppets i liked but i listning more KREATOR, OVERKILL and SODOM.

googleism · October 13th, 2009, 03:36 AM

everyone seems to have forgotton all about venom. in my opinion their first 2 albums especially black metal are pure thrash, the vocals, guitar and everything. period.

antwax · October 13th, 2009, 04:48 AM

Hi,
If I remember correctly Bathory from Sweden was one of the first (or the 1st) bands to call their music "thrash" or "trash" metal...I think Hellhammer (which became Celtic Frost later) played similar stuff...in the early 80's...but who came up with that term - I dunno.

Venom said in the interview on their double vinyl compilation album "From Hell to the Unknown" that they are not thrash metal like Metallica.

T

antwax · October 13th, 2009, 04:57 AM

hmmm...what about Exodus? Their early demos were pretty thrash to my ears...and they were original songs...not covers.

T

betty rocker · October 13th, 2009, 05:19 AM

accept, anvil, exciter and motorhead get my vote.

Descendent · October 13th, 2009, 10:32 AM

Proto-thrash was Diamond Head.

Catharsis70 · October 13th, 2009, 11:31 AM

Venom and Motorhead 1979/80
Anthrax 1982/83
Metallica 1983
Imho these bands set the standard that was the birth of the speed/thrash genre with the releases of those years. Of course there are many many contributors But these guys took dark hard music and added crack n whiskey to the mix. But then again I dont know shit so take it for what its worth

manu_8 · October 13th, 2009, 07:56 PM

what about sex pistols?

Anthrax_Mosher · October 15th, 2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MyHatred

Sure. It's right here

Pole smoker.

danaholica · October 15th, 2009, 01:34 PM

The roots of Thrash Metal started with Motorhead and Iron Maiden and then passed on to the original 4

Catharsis70 · October 15th, 2009, 10:20 PM

Maiden Thrash? Never thought of them as thrash. Metal to be sure but not thrash in my book.

danaholica · October 16th, 2009, 03:33 PM

I'm talking roots of thrash.Listen to Maiden's Phantom of The Opera !!!!!THE FIRST TWO MAIDEN ALBUMS ARE THE BIRTH OF SPEED METAL.

Catharsis70 · October 16th, 2009, 07:11 PM

Maiden and speed metal fosho but I dont think speed metal and thrash are synonymous. Speed metal prides itself on the clean and technical side of the coin. I dont fit Megadeth into the trash column (for me anyway) for that same reason. At the bottom of it all You can trace it all the way down the line to Elvis and Sinatra before him so in that regard I guess I would agree. Otherwise Im stickin to what I said above.

googleism · October 17th, 2009, 01:10 AM

even if venom did say that their music wasnt thrash like metallica i still think venom were the first ever band to release a thrash metal record in 1981, any one who listens to welcome to hell or black metal would probably agree with me.

dutchy · October 18th, 2009, 10:48 AM

the answer is : RAVEN!

Biographyby Ed RivadaviaRaven were considered one of the brightest hopes in the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, but bad decisions and musical inconsistency would de-rail their once-promising career, turning the trio into just another small — albeit important — footnote for this important genre.

Raven formed in late 70's Newcastle, England by brothers Mark (guitar) and John Gallagher (bass/vocals) along with drummer Rob "Wacko" Hunter. Signing with independent Neat Records, the trio joined labelmates Venom in laying the groundwork for what would become known as thrash metal by picking up where '70s noisemongers Motorhead had left off. Not as satanically-inclined or downright silly as Venom, Raven were much better musicians and played with the raw energy and reckless power that epitomized the New Wave of British Heavy Metal. As the movement approached its peak in 1981, Raven rode its crest with the self-labeled "athletic rock" of their album, Rock Until You Drop, still considered a classic of the genre.

Subsequent Neat releases — Wiped Out, All for One and Live at the Inferno — weren't quite as focused but helped the band solidify their fan-base and attract the attention of Atlantic Records. Unfortunately, signing with the major record company marked the turning point of Raven's fortunes as 1985's disappointing Stay Hard saw the band opting for an overtly commercial direction. Raven gradually relinquished their pop-metal aspirations, but by the time they attempted a full return to their roots with 1988's Nothing Exceeds Like Excess, their momentum had been irretrievably lost, along with drummer Wacko. The group has continued to record throughout the '90s on a variety of independent labels with new drummer Joey Hassewander, without anything close to mainstream success.

googleism · October 18th, 2009, 07:02 PM

ravens a great band but their a more speed/power metal type band. i dont think their thrash.

nyhc7163 · December 18th, 2009, 02:45 PM

either britney fox or my vote for MOTORHEAD.

EerieVon · December 18th, 2009, 06:16 PM

Venom

IAN442 · December 22nd, 2009, 11:32 AM

My suggestion is to pick up a copy of the book

Sound of the Beast - By Ian Christe.

Your answer lies in there, and may surprise you.

Its a really good guide to Metal history.

schenkadere · December 28th, 2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bolivershagnasty

Overkill is a great choice!

I'm not sure if everyone will classify this as a thrash song but....
Accept's Fast as a Shark is a thrashy song from 1982!

What do ya'll think!!!

I agree 100%. I think Accept was the stepping stone to thrash. Restless and Wild has a real thrash flavor.

schenkadere · December 28th, 2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EerieVon

Venom

Another good choice.

January 29th, 2008, 07:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
THEBALDGUYFROMBLACKLODGEVIDEO Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: B'klyn, NY Posts: 871	^ That's an excellent metaphore, my friend! __________________ "Maestro says it's Mozart, but it sounds like bubble gum..." L. Cohen

February 1st, 2008, 05:43 PM	#30 (permalink)
naOkO benOire bufferOVERFLOW Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hamburg Germany Posts: 278	Iam not sure but if the thread starter means realy speed n thrash and not anyknids of other rock, so i think my first thrash album was nearly taking over and under the influnces from OVER KILL. But nearly the same time i got The Walls Of Jericho from Helloween. But the first record kicks me off was Slayer `South Of Heaven, Reign In Blood, Kreator `Endless Pain and Extreme Agression and Sodom`s `Agent Orange. Metallicas Master Of Puppets i liked but i listning more KREATOR, OVERKILL and SODOM. __________________ . GIF / YOUTUBE CONTACT /

October 13th, 2009, 03:36 AM	#31 (permalink)
googleism Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	venom!! everyone seems to have forgotton all about venom. in my opinion their first 2 albums especially black metal are pure thrash, the vocals, guitar and everything. period.

October 13th, 2009, 10:32 AM	#35 (permalink)
Descendent Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 300	Proto-thrash was Diamond Head. __________________ Drunk punks is hippies.

October 13th, 2009, 11:31 AM	#36 (permalink)
Catharsis70 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 785	Venom and Motorhead 1979/80 Anthrax 1982/83 Metallica 1983 Imho these bands set the standard that was the birth of the speed/thrash genre with the releases of those years. Of course there are many many contributors But these guys took dark hard music and added crack n whiskey to the mix. But then again I dont know shit so take it for what its worth __________________ ""So you're out. You're free. You're rehabilitated. What's next? What's happening? What you gonna do? You got the money you owe us, mother-fucker?""

January 29th, 2008, 07:02 PM	#27 (permalink)
Frankieebotz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 191	Zeppelin may have made the mold but Sabbath crushed the mold into a fine powder and snorted it! Now that's fucking metal!

October 13th, 2009, 04:48 AM	#32 (permalink)
antwax Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 153	Hi, If I remember correctly Bathory from Sweden was one of the first (or the 1st) bands to call their music "thrash" or "trash" metal...I think Hellhammer (which became Celtic Frost later) played similar stuff...in the early 80's...but who came up with that term - I dunno. Venom said in the interview on their double vinyl compilation album "From Hell to the Unknown" that they are not thrash metal like Metallica. T

October 13th, 2009, 04:57 AM	#33 (permalink)
antwax Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 153	hmmm...what about Exodus? Their early demos were pretty thrash to my ears...and they were original songs...not covers. T

October 13th, 2009, 05:19 AM	#34 (permalink)
betty rocker Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 17	accept, anvil, exciter and motorhead get my vote.

October 13th, 2009, 07:56 PM	#37 (permalink)
manu_8 what doesn't die hard 4.0 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 166	what about sex pistols? __________________ wake up dead, in a plywood bed six feet from the rest of your life

October 15th, 2009, 01:34 PM	#39 (permalink)
danaholica Danazig Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MOUNT. DOOM Mass. Posts: 117	The roots of Thrash Metal started with Motorhead and Iron Maiden and then passed on to the original 4

October 15th, 2009, 10:20 PM	#40 (permalink)
Catharsis70 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 785	Maiden Thrash? Never thought of them as thrash. Metal to be sure but not thrash in my book. __________________ ""So you're out. You're free. You're rehabilitated. What's next? What's happening? What you gonna do? You got the money you owe us, mother-fucker?""

October 16th, 2009, 03:33 PM	#41 (permalink)
danaholica Danazig Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MOUNT. DOOM Mass. Posts: 117	I'm talking roots of thrash.Listen to Maiden's Phantom of The Opera !!!!!THE FIRST TWO MAIDEN ALBUMS ARE THE BIRTH OF SPEED METAL.

October 16th, 2009, 07:11 PM	#42 (permalink)
Catharsis70 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 785	Maiden and speed metal fosho but I dont think speed metal and thrash are synonymous. Speed metal prides itself on the clean and technical side of the coin. I dont fit Megadeth into the trash column (for me anyway) for that same reason. At the bottom of it all You can trace it all the way down the line to Elvis and Sinatra before him so in that regard I guess I would agree. Otherwise Im stickin to what I said above. __________________ ""So you're out. You're free. You're rehabilitated. What's next? What's happening? What you gonna do? You got the money you owe us, mother-fucker?"" Last edited by Catharsis70 : October 16th, 2009 at 07:14 PM.

October 17th, 2009, 01:10 AM	#43 (permalink)
googleism Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	even if venom did say that their music wasnt thrash like metallica i still think venom were the first ever band to release a thrash metal record in 1981, any one who listens to welcome to hell or black metal would probably agree with me.

October 18th, 2009, 10:48 AM	#44 (permalink)
dutchy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Stadskanaal, Holland Posts: 4,050	the answer is : RAVEN! Biographyby Ed RivadaviaRaven were considered one of the brightest hopes in the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, but bad decisions and musical inconsistency would de-rail their once-promising career, turning the trio into just another small — albeit important — footnote for this important genre. Raven formed in late 70's Newcastle, England by brothers Mark (guitar) and John Gallagher (bass/vocals) along with drummer Rob "Wacko" Hunter. Signing with independent Neat Records, the trio joined labelmates Venom in laying the groundwork for what would become known as thrash metal by picking up where '70s noisemongers Motorhead had left off. Not as satanically-inclined or downright silly as Venom, Raven were much better musicians and played with the raw energy and reckless power that epitomized the New Wave of British Heavy Metal. As the movement approached its peak in 1981, Raven rode its crest with the self-labeled "athletic rock" of their album, Rock Until You Drop, still considered a classic of the genre. Subsequent Neat releases — Wiped Out, All for One and Live at the Inferno — weren't quite as focused but helped the band solidify their fan-base and attract the attention of Atlantic Records. Unfortunately, signing with the major record company marked the turning point of Raven's fortunes as 1985's disappointing Stay Hard saw the band opting for an overtly commercial direction. Raven gradually relinquished their pop-metal aspirations, but by the time they attempted a full return to their roots with 1988's Nothing Exceeds Like Excess, their momentum had been irretrievably lost, along with drummer Wacko. The group has continued to record throughout the '90s on a variety of independent labels with new drummer Joey Hassewander, without anything close to mainstream success. __________________ Whatever Tomorrow Brings!!!!

October 18th, 2009, 07:02 PM	#45 (permalink)
googleism Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	. ravens a great band but their a more speed/power metal type band. i dont think their thrash.

December 18th, 2009, 02:45 PM	#46 (permalink)
nyhc7163 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 157	either britney fox or my vote for MOTORHEAD.

December 18th, 2009, 06:16 PM	#47 (permalink)
EerieVon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 854	Venom

December 22nd, 2009, 11:32 AM	#48 (permalink)
IAN442 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 596	To give you the power to answer the question... My suggestion is to pick up a copy of the book Sound of the Beast - By Ian Christe. Your answer lies in there, and may surprise you. Its a really good guide to Metal history. __________________ We're not gonna take it anymore....