Ok, I heard the promo CD for "We've Come For You All"

Dr.Love · December 10th, 2002, 08:06 PM

It has "What Doesn't Die", "Safe Home", "Taking the Music Back" and "Think About An End" on it.

The stuff's not bad. On the first few listens, I don't think it holds up to SOWN or the other Bush-era albums.

"What Doesn't Die" is the heaviest of the bunch, with a lot of fast kick drum, and start-stop quick riffing. It has that nu-metal "waah waah" kinda noise (nice description huh?

) during the chorus. The song doesn't sound like Korn or anything though, so don't worry.

"Safe Home" is good. Kind of one of those "hard-ballad" songs. Though again, it doesn't up to Black Lodge, Harms Way or Bare.
The chorus is fantastic, it's that the beginning of the verses are kind of bland/generic. I really like the chorus though.

The beginning riff of "taking the music back" sounds like that STP song. Don't know what it's called, but the words go "Please to meet you" yadda yadda. Just the part, the song as a whole sounds completely different. This song, as well as "think about an end"...they're hard but not...ohhhh how to put it?

I don't know...if you're hoping for an old school romp, then this just isn't the album for you. If you dug Volume 8, you'll probably like this, though from hearing about half the album, my initial reaction is that I like the other Bush-era albums better.

If the rest of the album follows the path of these songs, it's the most commercial sounding Anthrax album to date in my opinion. I could picture hearing any of these chorus' on alternative radio.

But hey, if they manage to get some major attention with this album, good for them, they deserve it and have certainly more than payed their dues.

I'm pretty sure a lot of fans in the "metal community" aren't gonna like a lot of this stuff. But if you're a fan of Volume 8, I'm sure you won't hate it.

Bad Mr Frosty · December 10th, 2002, 08:13 PM

Hmmm.... sounds like what I expected....

Well, I like the Volume 8 sound, even though I know others won't like you said, so I am looking foward to hearing this...

mrthrax · December 10th, 2002, 08:29 PM

each to there own dude,i have been a fan for 14 years and they have never let me down,i am still expecting this record to crush volume by a country mile while not completely forgetting bout the oldschool.

by the way where exactly did u hear this???

every john bush album has taken me a few listens to really soak it all up,u might be more positive once u have heard the album fully a few times over.

mrthrax · December 10th, 2002, 08:31 PM

i am still hoping for a record more in the direction of stomp!!!!!

Lord Darkness · December 10th, 2002, 08:33 PM

I knew all that bullshit about this album being old-school and 'the return of the RIFF' wasn't true....

//LD

Dr.Love · December 10th, 2002, 08:36 PM

My friend had it. I'm assuming the promo has been leaked.

I don't mean my post to sound negative in anyway, the songs just weren't overwhelming.

Consider this like COC's "Wiseblood" in comparison to "Deliverance"...or this is like "Reinventing the Steel" in comparison to "Vulgar Display of Power".

It's good, I just think they've done this sound a little better on their last few albums. Although any final judgement is being held until I have the full album blowing out my home stereo system!

After all, there is still half the album to go, including the one I'm most curious about; "Strap On My Old School".

***Edit***
Yeah, like I said, still haven't heard the rest. So maybe the other half is "thrashier" or heavier.

Bad Mr Frosty · December 10th, 2002, 08:47 PM

Did you get any idea of how the lyrics were to the songs?

Dr.Love · December 10th, 2002, 08:55 PM

Safe Home:
"I've been places in my head
...........what's ahead
............like a dream

what it is I know, you've always been my safe home"

What Doesn't Die:
"You
Cannot Kill
What Doesn't Die

.......to my promise
.......realize"

Taking the Music Back:
"Your lies have told me where I've been
Your lies have made me who I am
Your lies have made me start

It's so fuckin hard

I am
taking the music
I am
taking the music back
I'm taking it back"

Haha...not the best I know, but that's as good as I can remember right now.

Bad Mr Frosty · December 10th, 2002, 08:59 PM

Thanks dude!

"Safe Home" sounds like 'Black Lodge' lyrics, or something else of SOWN

"What doesn't die" sounds like a spreading the disease type lyric...

"Taking the music back" sounds different to anything they have done...

...at least, that's what I can tell from those samples...

Mr. Wu · December 10th, 2002, 09:16 PM

You only heard five songs, out of sequence. Of the five you heard, four of those are on the more accessible end of Anthrax.
You didn't hear Black Dahlia (blast beats from Benante!!) or Superhero (giant riff) or Any Place But Here (more riffing) or We've Come For You All (Bush insanity).
Think About An End is very anthemic with a great double lead thing and an Iron Maidenish middle.
Taking The Music Back sounds like a radio song but is probably too heavy to be on the radio.
Safe Home is brilliant. If that song doesn't get radio play there is something wrong. It's better than anything on the radio.

They are all heavy, not commercial.

When you hear the whole record in context, a song like Safe Home makes more sense. It's dynamics.

Don't judge this record by a promo CD. It's much deeper than Vol 8.
It's the best production I've heard Anthrax have.

poorchoiceofwords · December 10th, 2002, 09:29 PM

Ok, fuck the bullshit here, where the fuck is this promo?

Dr.Love · December 10th, 2002, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Wu

Don't judge this record by a promo CD. It's much deeper than Vol 8.

I said that a couple posts ago.

But like I said, I think of the 6 songs I've heard so far, this sounds like most "radio friendly" 'Thrax record.

That doesn't mean it sounds like Puddle of Mudd or some shit, but if there is a radio station plays Disturbed, Stone Sour, a lot of this stuff could fit in with that. Again, that's not saying it sounds like either of those bands, but it would appeal to that crowd.

Do you have any more in depth descriptions or comparisons for the rest of the material Mr.Wu?

Mr. Wu · December 10th, 2002, 10:07 PM

Overall I think this is Bush's best record. He sounds stronger than ever.
If "radio friendly" means catchy choruses, then these songs are strong. Even a song as brutal as Black Dahlia has a catchy chorus. I remembered most of the record after one listen.
The lead work by Rob is also something that makes this better than anything they've done in a while. His lead playing is very aggressive when it should be. He pulls back when he needs to and he adds a lot of textures to the choruses.
Cadillac Rock Box sounds like Lynyrd Skynyrd meets Metallica with a really big riff.
Great lead by Dimebag.
Anyway, don't listen to mine or anyone else's opinion.
Hear it for yourself. When you can.

Bad Mr Frosty · December 10th, 2002, 10:09 PM

What does Black Dailha really sound like?

Everyone says it's so heavy...

poorchoiceofwords · December 10th, 2002, 10:10 PM

I think the two of you are a couple of twats.

Mr. Wu · December 10th, 2002, 10:15 PM

Jealous?

poorchoiceofwords · December 10th, 2002, 10:16 PM

Of course I am, but there's no need to be a cunt about this now is there?

poorchoiceofwords · December 10th, 2002, 10:25 PM

Ah, listen to me, waiting for this record is causing me to be a fucknut. Apologies.

Mr. Wu · December 10th, 2002, 10:33 PM

No worries.
I hope you enjoy it.

Jono · December 10th, 2002, 10:40 PM

shit... I like catchy, what the fucks wrong with catchy? I mean can you realy purposely make something catchy? Everything off of SOWN is catchy. otherwise I wouldn't like it.
-Jono-

mrthrax · December 10th, 2002, 10:54 PM

mmmm if it has been leaked why isnt on the internet,lets see what brent has to say,if people have already heard it it would surely be on the internet now who is telling the truth???????

Mr. Wu · December 10th, 2002, 11:09 PM

It wouldn't be on the internet if you had respect for the band.

Brentney Spears · December 11th, 2002, 12:24 AM

Black Dahlia is even more metal than What Doesn't Die. What does it sound like? Stomp 442 meets Ministry meets Slayer. Nobody Knows Anything is the best track on the album. You'll shit when you hear that song, really fucking wild. It's almost a new sound. Just fantastic.

Why aren't they on the sampler? I dunno, they didn't ask me. What Doesn't Die is Anthrax at its best, Safe Home is almost Cheap Trick in its poppiness, Take the Music Back is fantastic but it's one of those you have to listen to a few times. Think About An End isn't one of the stronger cuts IMO but some people might think it's great. Very Rage/Audioslave sound on that one.

I'm not the moral high ground on MP3's but if it was intrusted to me as promotion I'd probably sit on it since if you let stuff out of the can you can end up not getting the advanced shit in the future. The album will be out overseas in Feb then it'll be everywhere.

anthraxgod · December 11th, 2002, 01:02 AM

But on what label here in the US? Will it still be w/ Beyond? Or will it be a major (Sony, Mercury, et al)? Or one that has a lot of pull (Interscope, Wind-Up) or one that is more metal/hard rock based (Roadrunner/Sanctuary)? Please give us at least a hint?

Don_Chi_Chi · December 11th, 2002, 01:19 AM

Yes, a hint would be wonderful. Hopefully Anthrax actually nailed down a US label to work from. It would really suck if this turned into the Chinese Democracy of this band. And I really don't want to have a buy the Jap Cd, but at this rate I may very well have to.

December 10th, 2002, 08:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dr.Love Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7	Ok, I heard the promo CD for "We've Come For You All" It has "What Doesn't Die", "Safe Home", "Taking the Music Back" and "Think About An End" on it. The stuff's not bad. On the first few listens, I don't think it holds up to SOWN or the other Bush-era albums. "What Doesn't Die" is the heaviest of the bunch, with a lot of fast kick drum, and start-stop quick riffing. It has that nu-metal "waah waah" kinda noise (nice description huh? ) during the chorus. The song doesn't sound like Korn or anything though, so don't worry. "Safe Home" is good. Kind of one of those "hard-ballad" songs. Though again, it doesn't up to Black Lodge, Harms Way or Bare. The chorus is fantastic, it's that the beginning of the verses are kind of bland/generic. I really like the chorus though. The beginning riff of "taking the music back" sounds like that STP song. Don't know what it's called, but the words go "Please to meet you" yadda yadda. Just the part, the song as a whole sounds completely different. This song, as well as "think about an end"...they're hard but not...ohhhh how to put it? I don't know...if you're hoping for an old school romp, then this just isn't the album for you. If you dug Volume 8, you'll probably like this, though from hearing about half the album, my initial reaction is that I like the other Bush-era albums better. If the rest of the album follows the path of these songs, it's the most commercial sounding Anthrax album to date in my opinion. I could picture hearing any of these chorus' on alternative radio. But hey, if they manage to get some major attention with this album, good for them, they deserve it and have certainly more than payed their dues. I'm pretty sure a lot of fans in the "metal community" aren't gonna like a lot of this stuff. But if you're a fan of Volume 8, I'm sure you won't hate it.

December 10th, 2002, 08:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
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December 10th, 2002, 08:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
mrthrax trying to look tough Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: australia Posts: 4,200	i am still hoping for a record more in the direction of stomp!!!!! __________________ 3 aussie bands u people should check out rose tattoo mortal sin alchemist for people who like a laugh check these 2 comedians,songwriters out rodney rude kevin bloody wilson

December 10th, 2002, 08:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lord Darkness Sargent 'D' Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OSLO Posts: 109	Thrash or be thrashed! I knew all that bullshit about this album being old-school and 'the return of the RIFF' wasn't true.... //LD __________________ www.Earth-Dog.com/forum Demons not ready to die! Join the community!

December 10th, 2002, 08:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dr.Love Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7	My friend had it. I'm assuming the promo has been leaked. I don't mean my post to sound negative in anyway, the songs just weren't overwhelming. Consider this like COC's "Wiseblood" in comparison to "Deliverance"...or this is like "Reinventing the Steel" in comparison to "Vulgar Display of Power". It's good, I just think they've done this sound a little better on their last few albums. Although any final judgement is being held until I have the full album blowing out my home stereo system! After all, there is still half the album to go, including the one I'm most curious about; "Strap On My Old School". *Edit* Yeah, like I said, still haven't heard the rest. So maybe the other half is "thrashier" or heavier. Last edited by Dr.Love : December 10th, 2002 at 08:39 PM.

December 10th, 2002, 08:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bad Mr Frosty Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 252	Hmmm.... sounds like what I expected.... Well, I like the Volume 8 sound, even though I know others won't like you said, so I am looking foward to hearing this...

December 10th, 2002, 08:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bad Mr Frosty Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 252	Did you get any idea of how the lyrics were to the songs?

December 10th, 2002, 08:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dr.Love Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7	Safe Home: "I've been places in my head ...........what's ahead ............like a dream what it is I know, you've always been my safe home" What Doesn't Die: "You Cannot Kill What Doesn't Die .......to my promise .......realize" Taking the Music Back: "Your lies have told me where I've been Your lies have made me who I am Your lies have made me start It's so fuckin hard I am taking the music I am taking the music back I'm taking it back" Haha...not the best I know, but that's as good as I can remember right now.

December 10th, 2002, 08:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bad Mr Frosty Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 252	Thanks dude! "Safe Home" sounds like 'Black Lodge' lyrics, or something else of SOWN "What doesn't die" sounds like a spreading the disease type lyric... "Taking the music back" sounds different to anything they have done... ...at least, that's what I can tell from those samples...

December 10th, 2002, 09:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mr. Wu Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 279	I've heard the whole thing You only heard five songs, out of sequence. Of the five you heard, four of those are on the more accessible end of Anthrax. You didn't hear Black Dahlia (blast beats from Benante!!) or Superhero (giant riff) or Any Place But Here (more riffing) or We've Come For You All (Bush insanity). Think About An End is very anthemic with a great double lead thing and an Iron Maidenish middle. Taking The Music Back sounds like a radio song but is probably too heavy to be on the radio. Safe Home is brilliant. If that song doesn't get radio play there is something wrong. It's better than anything on the radio. They are all heavy, not commercial. When you hear the whole record in context, a song like Safe Home makes more sense. It's dynamics. Don't judge this record by a promo CD. It's much deeper than Vol 8. It's the best production I've heard Anthrax have.

December 10th, 2002, 09:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
poorchoiceofwords Packaged Rebel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a better place Posts: 291	Ok, fuck the bullshit here, where the fuck is this promo? __________________ From the smallest taste I use...

December 10th, 2002, 10:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mr. Wu Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 279	Overall I think this is Bush's best record. He sounds stronger than ever. If "radio friendly" means catchy choruses, then these songs are strong. Even a song as brutal as Black Dahlia has a catchy chorus. I remembered most of the record after one listen. The lead work by Rob is also something that makes this better than anything they've done in a while. His lead playing is very aggressive when it should be. He pulls back when he needs to and he adds a lot of textures to the choruses. Cadillac Rock Box sounds like Lynyrd Skynyrd meets Metallica with a really big riff. Great lead by Dimebag. Anyway, don't listen to mine or anyone else's opinion. Hear it for yourself. When you can.

December 10th, 2002, 10:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bad Mr Frosty Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 252	What does Black Dailha really sound like? Everyone says it's so heavy...

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poorchoiceofwords Packaged Rebel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a better place Posts: 291	I think the two of you are a couple of twats. __________________ From the smallest taste I use...

December 10th, 2002, 10:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mr. Wu Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 279	Jealous?

December 10th, 2002, 10:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
poorchoiceofwords Packaged Rebel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a better place Posts: 291	Of course I am, but there's no need to be a cunt about this now is there? __________________ From the smallest taste I use...

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poorchoiceofwords Packaged Rebel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a better place Posts: 291	Ah, listen to me, waiting for this record is causing me to be a fucknut. Apologies. __________________ From the smallest taste I use...

December 10th, 2002, 10:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mr. Wu Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 279	No worries. I hope you enjoy it.

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Jono Hail Satan! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: apartment 667, neighbor of the beast. Posts: 1,865	shit... I like catchy, what the fucks wrong with catchy? I mean can you realy purposely make something catchy? Everything off of SOWN is catchy. otherwise I wouldn't like it. -Jono- __________________ RBC: Can you shed any light on Frankie Bello's mysterious departure a year ago, and why he's back all of a sudden? ROB: Hahahahaha

December 10th, 2002, 10:54 PM	#21 (permalink)
mrthrax trying to look tough Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: australia Posts: 4,200	mmmm if it has been leaked why isnt on the internet,lets see what brent has to say,if people have already heard it it would surely be on the internet now who is telling the truth??????? __________________ 3 aussie bands u people should check out rose tattoo mortal sin alchemist for people who like a laugh check these 2 comedians,songwriters out rodney rude kevin bloody wilson

December 10th, 2002, 11:09 PM	#22 (permalink)
Mr. Wu Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 279	It wouldn't be on the internet if you had respect for the band.

December 11th, 2002, 12:24 AM	#23 (permalink)
Brentney Spears KingShitOfFuckMountain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Nash Vegas, TN Posts: 436	Black Dahlia is even more metal than What Doesn't Die. What does it sound like? Stomp 442 meets Ministry meets Slayer. Nobody Knows Anything is the best track on the album. You'll shit when you hear that song, really fucking wild. It's almost a new sound. Just fantastic. Why aren't they on the sampler? I dunno, they didn't ask me. What Doesn't Die is Anthrax at its best, Safe Home is almost Cheap Trick in its poppiness, Take the Music Back is fantastic but it's one of those you have to listen to a few times. Think About An End isn't one of the stronger cuts IMO but some people might think it's great. Very Rage/Audioslave sound on that one. I'm not the moral high ground on MP3's but if it was intrusted to me as promotion I'd probably sit on it since if you let stuff out of the can you can end up not getting the advanced shit in the future. The album will be out overseas in Feb then it'll be everywhere.

December 11th, 2002, 01:02 AM	#24 (permalink)
anthraxgod Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: so cal Posts: 22	But on what label here in the US? Will it still be w/ Beyond? Or will it be a major (Sony, Mercury, et al)? Or one that has a lot of pull (Interscope, Wind-Up) or one that is more metal/hard rock based (Roadrunner/Sanctuary)? Please give us at least a hint?

December 11th, 2002, 01:19 AM	#25 (permalink)
Don_Chi_Chi Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 34	Yes, a hint would be wonderful. Hopefully Anthrax actually nailed down a US label to work from. It would really suck if this turned into the Chinese Democracy of this band. And I really don't want to have a buy the Jap Cd, but at this rate I may very well have to.