Best Slate Cymbals/ Tips for programming cymbals?

JayB · February 29th, 2012, 05:49 PM

Hey guys,

I'm doing a mix for a cover that wasn't recorded by the drummer, so I'm needing to program cymbals for the first time. I have programmed notes from the Guitar Pro track I downloaded to guide me, but I'm just wondering what everyone's go to cymbals are if they have to use Slate (I know it's not a favorite). I just got upgraded to SSD Platinum 3.5 after having lots of trouble with EX 3.5. I know that this pack has more drums and cymbals... does this also include all the other packs like Metal And More, the rock pack etc? Because I previously bought EX and the metal and more pack. Anyway, I just want to know what the most "ok" sounding cymbals are in Slate and if anyone has any tips for programming cymbals, besides the obligatory "don't use hard velocities". Speaking of which, what kind of velocity range should cymbal hits be in, like softest hit to hardest hits?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Tommy Evans · February 29th, 2012, 07:15 PM

I used 16A and 17B before I stopped using slate cymbals.

JayB · March 1st, 2012, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Evans

I used 16A and 17B before I stopped using slate cymbals.

Cool, thanks! What kind of velocities did you use?

UncleBob · March 1st, 2012, 12:34 PM

"Like, whatever velocities sound good, use your rears man" [hippie smiley here]

But more usefully, around the 90's usually works, play around with higher values in the choruses etc (if it has choruses and isn't just flat out "brutalz" metal)

Loren Littlejohn · March 1st, 2012, 12:37 PM

If it's just being crashed on quarters 85-105, if they are getting hit as halves or wholes, then higher like 110-120.

One offs I always cranked up all the way.

JayB · March 1st, 2012, 12:59 PM

Cool, thanks for the info guys!

JayB · March 1st, 2012, 02:28 PM

One more thing, I have to re-program some bass parts, and I'm curious, what kind of velocity range do you guys use for bass? I'd like it to sound realistic but still hit hard.

Loren Littlejohn · March 1st, 2012, 03:26 PM

Sorry no help on the bass, I roll with the real deal there.

Tommy Evans · March 1st, 2012, 03:33 PM

I use Signal's Zombass when programming bass and just leave it at 100%. A friend of mine uses Trillian and also keeps it at 100%.

They're both good and realistic enough to not need any manual velocity changes.

JayB · March 1st, 2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Evans

I use Signal's Zombass when programming bass and just leave it at 100%. A friend of mine uses Trillian and also keeps it at 100%.

They're both good and realistic enough to not need any manual velocity changes.

I use the Prominy SR5 Rock Bass. It's pretty good, so I guess I'll give 100% a try. Thanks again!

February 29th, 2012, 05:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
JayB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,160	Best Slate Cymbals/ Tips for programming cymbals? Hey guys, I'm doing a mix for a cover that wasn't recorded by the drummer, so I'm needing to program cymbals for the first time. I have programmed notes from the Guitar Pro track I downloaded to guide me, but I'm just wondering what everyone's go to cymbals are if they have to use Slate (I know it's not a favorite). I just got upgraded to SSD Platinum 3.5 after having lots of trouble with EX 3.5. I know that this pack has more drums and cymbals... does this also include all the other packs like Metal And More, the rock pack etc? Because I previously bought EX and the metal and more pack. Anyway, I just want to know what the most "ok" sounding cymbals are in Slate and if anyone has any tips for programming cymbals, besides the obligatory "don't use hard velocities". Speaking of which, what kind of velocity range should cymbal hits be in, like softest hit to hardest hits? Thanks in advance for any help! __________________ My video games/ tech/ entertainment website: metalarcade.net

March 1st, 2012, 12:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
JayB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,160	Cool, thanks for the info guys! __________________ My video games/ tech/ entertainment website: metalarcade.net

March 1st, 2012, 02:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
JayB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,160	One more thing, I have to re-program some bass parts, and I'm curious, what kind of velocity range do you guys use for bass? I'd like it to sound realistic but still hit hard. __________________ My video games/ tech/ entertainment website: metalarcade.net

February 29th, 2012, 07:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tommy Evans Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 995	I used 16A and 17B before I stopped using slate cymbals.

March 1st, 2012, 12:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
UncleBob Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 239	"Like, whatever velocities sound good, use your rears man" [hippie smiley here] But more usefully, around the 90's usually works, play around with higher values in the choruses etc (if it has choruses and isn't just flat out "brutalz" metal)

March 1st, 2012, 03:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tommy Evans Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 995	I use Signal's Zombass when programming bass and just leave it at 100%. A friend of mine uses Trillian and also keeps it at 100%. They're both good and realistic enough to not need any manual velocity changes.