Slate Trigger vs. SSD 4.0

Ground Up Studios · March 22nd, 2012, 07:42 PM

whats the difference? IS there a difference? i hate having to go through a certain type of player to trigger samples. Im recording line in mics, so what should i get? From my understanding the slate digital is basically a drum replacement vst, kinda like drumagog. and ssd 4.0 is basically the sampler, which needs midi for it to be triggered. Someone please inform me on whats poppin lol

nosgulstic · March 22nd, 2012, 07:50 PM

With SSD 4.0 you can only play slate samples via midi. Trigger comes with a few slate samples and you can load your own samples or any sample you find, also has the ability to output midi.

Ground Up Studios · March 22nd, 2012, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosgulstic

With SSD 4.0 you can only play slate samples via midi. Trigger comes with a few slate samples and you can load your own samples or any sample you find, also has the ability to output midi.

ok,

If i purchase Slate Digital Platinum, will i get most of the samples?

Is there a way for me to trigger samples from SSD4 if i record drums with microphone signals?

What should i get? considering i record drums with mics, and stuff. Does SSD4 come with wav. files?

thefalloftheheretic · March 22nd, 2012, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ground Up Studios

ok,

If i purchase Slate Digital Platinum, will i get most of the samples?

Is there a way for me to trigger samples from SSD4 if i record drums with microphone signals?

What should i get? considering i record drums with mics, and stuff. Does SSD4 come with wav. files?

ReGate-turn on the send MIDI note feature-tune to liking-send output to track with SSD4

DanLights · March 23rd, 2012, 02:55 AM

If you record mics and not midi, the sensible option would be to get trigger cause that's exactly what it's for, but you could also convert to midi afterwards, there are several ways to do that, the reagate option is one (if you have Reaper)

SwambA · March 23rd, 2012, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanLights

If you record mics and not midi, the sensible option would be to get trigger cause that's exactly what it's for, but you could also convert to midi afterwards, there are several ways to do that, the reagate option is one (if you have Reaper)

You can get the reaper plugins to use with any daw here http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/

schwinginbatman · March 23rd, 2012, 06:57 AM

Get Trigger if you're dealing with sound files. If you have MIDI tracks, then get SSD4. Whenever I have MIDI I have to do some crappy roundabout thing with Addictive Drums and Trigger, but it gets the job done.

DavePiatek · March 24th, 2012, 10:21 PM

I use MIDI to trigger my samples, even when using Trigger. That way I have total control over velocities, etc. I use Massey's DRT to convert the audio to MIDI, and then tweak what I have to by hand afterwards. It has a free, nearly fully functional demo that doesn't expire. This is Pro Tools only, though.

http://www.masseyplugins.com/

Gnash · March 26th, 2012, 07:00 PM

Nice! Thanks for the link!

Sloan · March 26th, 2012, 07:25 PM

SSD & Trigger should seriously be combined into the same product.

Gnash · March 27th, 2012, 04:56 AM

Exactly.

Arsenu, · March 28th, 2012, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sloan

SSD & Trigger should seriously be combined into the same product.

much more profitable when people pay twice...

oroinvictus · March 28th, 2012, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arsenu,

much more profitable when people pay twice...

+100

Slate · March 29th, 2012, 06:04 PM

Two completely different products for different markets.

I record drums but want more options than just the recorded sounds = TRIGGER

I'm a songwriter and I need drum sounds for my music = SSD4

I'm an engineer or drummer and I want to play an electronic kit to get killer studio drum tracks = SSD4

Cheers,
Steven "Dual Profit Man" Slate

kronk_1985 · March 29th, 2012, 06:22 PM

sup Steve. Don't listen to these ungrateful twats.

Arsenu, · March 29th, 2012, 07:30 PM

who's ungrateful? it's a business, it's supposed to make money... it's not like he's doing it for fun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slate

Two completely different products for different markets.

I record drums but want more options than just the recorded sounds = TRIGGER

I'm a songwriter and I need drum sounds for my music = SSD4

I'm an engineer or drummer and I want to play an electronic kit to get killer studio drum tracks = SSD4

Cheers,
Steven "Dual Profit Man" Slate

I'm a songwriter and I need drum sounds for my music + enhance them with more than 1 sample, which i don't think is too much to ask = SSD + Trigger

in any way i'm definitely buying SSD 4.0 when you're having a sale. maybe both SSD and trigger if you'll have a special price or "2 for the price of 1"

any intel on when that might be?

Sloan · March 29th, 2012, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slate

Cheers,
Steven "Dual Profit Man" Slate

hahaha, dammit.

i do both as well so i'm trying to work ssd and trigger platinum in my budget.

Gnash · March 30th, 2012, 12:06 AM

Slate, you should drop in on the AES convention in St. Louis this weekend. I only dropped about $330 on Trigger Platinum and SSD 4.0 Platinum. Worth every penny. Both have definately improved my writing and mixes. I need a Slate T-shirt now. haha

AdamWathan · March 30th, 2012, 09:22 AM

I use Trigger even for programming, with my own cymbal samples. Not hard to build a template to do it in any DAW.

Loren Littlejohn · March 30th, 2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamWathan

I use Trigger even for programming, with my own cymbal samples. Not hard to build a template to do it in any DAW.

This is pretty much why I have no plans to ever upgrade from Plat 3.5

Honestly I don't even really use slate that much anymore.

Arsenu, · March 31st, 2012, 08:09 AM

edit: forget it, i was in a hurry.

what i meant was:

both SSD and Trigger platinum editions come with the same 'platinum' library. so basically, if i buy Trigger platinum, i can load the programmed midi into any drum VSTI and render seperate tracks for kick, snare, each tom and each cymbal, than load Trigger on each track and basically replace the whole kit. my question is: has anyone ever tried that? and will it sound without the Room track? since this one is impossible to replace...

Josh Burgess · March 31st, 2012, 05:28 PM

So, why is it taking so long for the update for Trigger to be released?

schwinginbatman · March 31st, 2012, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arsenu,

edit: forget it, i was in a hurry.

what i meant was:

both SSD and Trigger platinum editions come with the same 'platinum' library. so basically, if i buy Trigger platinum, i can load the programmed midi into any drum VSTI and render seperate tracks for kick, snare, each tom and each cymbal, than load Trigger on each track and basically replace the whole kit. my question is: has anyone ever tried that? and will it sound without the Room track? since this one is impossible to replace...

That's exactly what I do. It works well for me. I typically high-pass the room pretty high up, and then compress it. It's never given me any problems.

Arsenu, · April 1st, 2012, 11:02 AM

but there's no room track if you're using this method... or are you using the room track rendered from the VSTI? won't make much sence using it if you've replaced all the drum that were loaded into the source.
any chance you can share a link to a work you've done using this method?

March 22nd, 2012, 07:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ground Up Studios Nicholas Rodriguez Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bergen County, New Jersey Posts: 41	Slate Trigger vs. SSD 4.0 whats the difference? IS there a difference? i hate having to go through a certain type of player to trigger samples. Im recording line in mics, so what should i get? From my understanding the slate digital is basically a drum replacement vst, kinda like drumagog. and ssd 4.0 is basically the sampler, which needs midi for it to be triggered. Someone please inform me on whats poppin lol

March 22nd, 2012, 07:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
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March 23rd, 2012, 02:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
DanLights A Venezuelan in Europe Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: A Coruña, Spain Posts: 6,678	Re: Slate Trigger vs. SSD 4.0 If you record mics and not midi, the sensible option would be to get trigger cause that's exactly what it's for, but you could also convert to midi afterwards, there are several ways to do that, the reagate option is one (if you have Reaper) __________________ http://www.facebook.com/adintra Weekly Favorites - Currently Listening

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DavePiatek Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 143	I use MIDI to trigger my samples, even when using Trigger. That way I have total control over velocities, etc. I use Massey's DRT to convert the audio to MIDI, and then tweak what I have to by hand afterwards. It has a free, nearly fully functional demo that doesn't expire. This is Pro Tools only, though. http://www.masseyplugins.com/ __________________ Dave Piatek dave@roomsound.com Unprocessed Drum Samples for Recording Pros www.roomsound.com

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March 23rd, 2012, 06:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
schwinginbatman It's shittay! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 372	Get Trigger if you're dealing with sound files. If you have MIDI tracks, then get SSD4. Whenever I have MIDI I have to do some crappy roundabout thing with Addictive Drums and Trigger, but it gets the job done.

March 26th, 2012, 07:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sloan Sounds like shit! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cleveland, TN Posts: 4,509	SSD & Trigger should seriously be combined into the same product. __________________ SloanZone Audio \| SloanStewart \| Strayfire \| 40oz. Folklore Yamaha HS80M / Audio Technica ATH-M50

March 27th, 2012, 04:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
Gnash Lefty Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warrensburg, MO Posts: 1,271	Exactly. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/shanemeyer51...p?id=560372282 http://www.youtube.com/Gnash5150

March 29th, 2012, 06:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
Slate Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,113	Two completely different products for different markets. I record drums but want more options than just the recorded sounds = TRIGGER I'm a songwriter and I need drum sounds for my music = SSD4 I'm an engineer or drummer and I want to play an electronic kit to get killer studio drum tracks = SSD4 Cheers, Steven "Dual Profit Man" Slate __________________ Steven Slate hear some fat metal drum samples at: http://www.stevenslatedrums.com www.slatedigital.com www.slateproaudio.com

March 29th, 2012, 06:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
kronk_1985 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 274	sup Steve. Don't listen to these ungrateful twats. __________________ i dont know anything about audio engineering, dont listen to me

March 30th, 2012, 12:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
Gnash Lefty Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warrensburg, MO Posts: 1,271	Slate, you should drop in on the AES convention in St. Louis this weekend. I only dropped about $330 on Trigger Platinum and SSD 4.0 Platinum. Worth every penny. Both have definately improved my writing and mixes. I need a Slate T-shirt now. haha __________________ http://www.facebook.com/shanemeyer51...p?id=560372282 http://www.youtube.com/Gnash5150

March 30th, 2012, 09:22 AM	#19 (permalink)
AdamWathan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,813	I use Trigger even for programming, with my own cymbal samples. Not hard to build a template to do it in any DAW. __________________ Contact me via PM for Drum Editing

March 31st, 2012, 08:09 AM	#21 (permalink)
Arsenu, Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 724	edit: forget it, i was in a hurry. what i meant was: both SSD and Trigger platinum editions come with the same 'platinum' library. so basically, if i buy Trigger platinum, i can load the programmed midi into any drum VSTI and render seperate tracks for kick, snare, each tom and each cymbal, than load Trigger on each track and basically replace the whole kit. my question is: has anyone ever tried that? and will it sound without the Room track? since this one is impossible to replace... __________________ Last edited by Arsenu, : March 31st, 2012 at 12:29 PM.

March 31st, 2012, 05:28 PM	#22 (permalink)
Josh Burgess Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,241	So, why is it taking so long for the update for Trigger to be released?

April 1st, 2012, 11:02 AM	#24 (permalink)
Arsenu, Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 724	but there's no room track if you're using this method... or are you using the room track rendered from the VSTI? won't make much sence using it if you've replaced all the drum that were loaded into the source. any chance you can share a link to a work you've done using this method? __________________