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Old March 22nd, 2012, 07:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Slate Trigger vs. SSD 4.0

whats the difference? IS there a difference? i hate having to go through a certain type of player to trigger samples. Im recording line in mics, so what should i get? From my understanding the slate digital is basically a drum replacement vst, kinda like drumagog. and ssd 4.0 is basically the sampler, which needs midi for it to be triggered. Someone please inform me on whats poppin lol
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 07:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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With SSD 4.0 you can only play slate samples via midi. Trigger comes with a few slate samples and you can load your own samples or any sample you find, also has the ability to output midi.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 07:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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With SSD 4.0 you can only play slate samples via midi. Trigger comes with a few slate samples and you can load your own samples or any sample you find, also has the ability to output midi.
ok,

If i purchase Slate Digital Platinum, will i get most of the samples?

Is there a way for me to trigger samples from SSD4 if i record drums with microphone signals?

What should i get? considering i record drums with mics, and stuff. Does SSD4 come with wav. files?
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 09:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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ok,

If i purchase Slate Digital Platinum, will i get most of the samples?

Is there a way for me to trigger samples from SSD4 if i record drums with microphone signals?

What should i get? considering i record drums with mics, and stuff. Does SSD4 come with wav. files?
ReGate-turn on the send MIDI note feature-tune to liking-send output to track with SSD4
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 02:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Slate Trigger vs. SSD 4.0

If you record mics and not midi, the sensible option would be to get trigger cause that's exactly what it's for, but you could also convert to midi afterwards, there are several ways to do that, the reagate option is one (if you have Reaper)
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 06:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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If you record mics and not midi, the sensible option would be to get trigger cause that's exactly what it's for, but you could also convert to midi afterwards, there are several ways to do that, the reagate option is one (if you have Reaper)
You can get the reaper plugins to use with any daw here http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 06:57 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Get Trigger if you're dealing with sound files. If you have MIDI tracks, then get SSD4. Whenever I have MIDI I have to do some crappy roundabout thing with Addictive Drums and Trigger, but it gets the job done.
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Old March 24th, 2012, 10:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I use MIDI to trigger my samples, even when using Trigger. That way I have total control over velocities, etc. I use Massey's DRT to convert the audio to MIDI, and then tweak what I have to by hand afterwards. It has a free, nearly fully functional demo that doesn't expire. This is Pro Tools only, though.

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Old March 26th, 2012, 07:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old March 26th, 2012, 07:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
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SSD & Trigger should seriously be combined into the same product.
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SSD & Trigger should seriously be combined into the same product.
much more profitable when people pay twice...
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much more profitable when people pay twice...
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Old March 29th, 2012, 06:04 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Two completely different products for different markets.

I record drums but want more options than just the recorded sounds = TRIGGER

I'm a songwriter and I need drum sounds for my music = SSD4

I'm an engineer or drummer and I want to play an electronic kit to get killer studio drum tracks = SSD4

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Old March 29th, 2012, 06:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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sup Steve. Don't listen to these ungrateful twats.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 07:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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who's ungrateful? it's a business, it's supposed to make money... it's not like he's doing it for fun.

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Two completely different products for different markets.

I record drums but want more options than just the recorded sounds = TRIGGER

I'm a songwriter and I need drum sounds for my music = SSD4

I'm an engineer or drummer and I want to play an electronic kit to get killer studio drum tracks = SSD4

Cheers,
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I'm a songwriter and I need drum sounds for my music + enhance them with more than 1 sample, which i don't think is too much to ask = SSD + Trigger

in any way i'm definitely buying SSD 4.0 when you're having a sale. maybe both SSD and trigger if you'll have a special price or "2 for the price of 1"

any intel on when that might be?
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hahaha, dammit.

i do both as well so i'm trying to work ssd and trigger platinum in my budget.
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Slate, you should drop in on the AES convention in St. Louis this weekend. I only dropped about $330 on Trigger Platinum and SSD 4.0 Platinum. Worth every penny. Both have definately improved my writing and mixes. I need a Slate T-shirt now. haha
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I use Trigger even for programming, with my own cymbal samples. Not hard to build a template to do it in any DAW.
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I use Trigger even for programming, with my own cymbal samples. Not hard to build a template to do it in any DAW.
This is pretty much why I have no plans to ever upgrade from Plat 3.5

Honestly I don't even really use slate that much anymore.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 08:09 AM   #21 (permalink)
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edit: forget it, i was in a hurry.

what i meant was:

both SSD and Trigger platinum editions come with the same 'platinum' library. so basically, if i buy Trigger platinum, i can load the programmed midi into any drum VSTI and render seperate tracks for kick, snare, each tom and each cymbal, than load Trigger on each track and basically replace the whole kit. my question is: has anyone ever tried that? and will it sound without the Room track? since this one is impossible to replace...
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Old March 31st, 2012, 05:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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So, why is it taking so long for the update for Trigger to be released?
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edit: forget it, i was in a hurry.

what i meant was:

both SSD and Trigger platinum editions come with the same 'platinum' library. so basically, if i buy Trigger platinum, i can load the programmed midi into any drum VSTI and render seperate tracks for kick, snare, each tom and each cymbal, than load Trigger on each track and basically replace the whole kit. my question is: has anyone ever tried that? and will it sound without the Room track? since this one is impossible to replace...
That's exactly what I do. It works well for me. I typically high-pass the room pretty high up, and then compress it. It's never given me any problems.
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but there's no room track if you're using this method... or are you using the room track rendered from the VSTI? won't make much sence using it if you've replaced all the drum that were loaded into the source.
any chance you can share a link to a work you've done using this method?
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