CRADLE OF FILTH - Page 2

Genius Gone Insane · January 16th, 2007, 12:18 PM

A couple times on track 6 (ie around 3:00) there are some killer vox. Sounds like 2 vox tracks, one with a flanger maybe... Anyway, what are the vocal effects that you are using on that part?

Edit: BTW this record gets better and better with each listen

Eduardo Apolonia · June 9th, 2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Sneap

yep krankenstein with a 57

How different are the settings on the amp for each guitar?
Or do you make them different with post EQ?

I'm not asking for the settings

But if you could share the settings of the As I lay dying album would be nice

.
We could trade the settings for a bottle of fine Port wine

Mikey Bolton · September 3rd, 2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by reneisgod

Ok this question has been asked a thousand times before but ive never been given a decent answer to this...

How does Dani sing/scream so high in the Dusk And Her Embrace album ?

Ive seen Cof live way back 97-99 and even recently. Never has Dani pulled of this technique live not with the same accuracy or pitch in this album anyways.

Is there some sort of vocal editing going on here maybe a pitch shifter ?
I can't see how its humanly possible to hit screams that high with that tone.
I believe the pitch is possible but the tone behind the screams doesnt sound natural even when he scream live its no where near this intense or high..

So any answers on this, the reason I want to know.. Im in a blackmetal band myself www.myspce.com/cnocantursa I can scream pritty high but not in the way Dani does in Dusk And Her Embrace can anyone give me any advice on how this was/can be done.

thanks you.

An old Alesis midiverb on hall reverb 3.5secs with 75% feedback but ride the reverb channel only on the screams....the reverb then feeds itself back during the scream....thats what I did during the Midian tour on monitors.

mpigott · September 3rd, 2007, 01:48 PM

Does he not also do "in" screaming. Where you breathe in as oposed to out.

deanbailey · September 3rd, 2007, 03:25 PM

It is indeed inward, as are alot of the vocal techniques these days.

deanbailey · September 4th, 2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by reneisgod

I know this much, Dani doesnt inward scream.
and I wouldnt recommend it do anyone it can seriously dammage your vocal chords,
saying that Peter from Hypocrisy inward screams but he's the man !

thanks for the tip and info with the reverb ill be giving this technique a try thanks.

Perhaps you're right, but it's the only way for me to explain and demonstrate it.

most if not all pig squeels are inward.

derfbonker · September 5th, 2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by deanbailey

Perhaps you're right, but it's the only way for me to explain and demonstrate it.

most if not all pig squeels are inward.

I pig squeal outward,so does JFAC. you can tell, because the inward squeals usually go up in pitch, but outward stay pretty much the same pitch.

deanbailey · September 6th, 2007, 08:34 AM

yeah, i guessed that the jfac vocalist does it outward. I'm mainly referring to that abundance of deathcore bands on myspace.

derfbonker · September 7th, 2007, 07:03 PM

I think that if you can't do it outward, then don't bother. It sounds retarded sucking in.

deanbailey · September 7th, 2007, 07:23 PM

I agree 100%, inward vocals are fucking terrible.

Pman · September 10th, 2007, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanbailey

I agree 100%, inward vocals are fucking terrible.

dude
this is my old band
the vocalist sings inward, hes the only singer ive ever recorded, but its pretty obvious its damn good
www.myspace.com/decembersrevenge

kaomao · January 3rd, 2008, 06:59 AM

Thornography will be releasead on a special edition format: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bla...wsitemID=87594

It will have two songs with separated tracs so you can do your own mix.
Andy will those tracks have all drum separated or what? or will it be something like Lamb Of God? di tracks ? lol

Pman · January 3rd, 2008, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaomao

Thornography will be releasead on a special edition format: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bla...wsitemID=87594

It will have two songs with separated tracs so you can do your own mix.
Andy will those tracks have all drum separated or what? or will it be something like Lamb Of God? di tracks ? lol

most likely just stem tracks like lamb of god

deanbailey · January 3rd, 2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Sneap

Oh boy, hope this isn't a trend. Any bands want this off me I'll give them the raw un fixed tracks, that should shut them up.

...said in the L.O.G producer edition thread

Sinister Mephisto · January 3rd, 2008, 08:46 PM

I'm pretty sure Andy wasn't saying he would actually send bands the un fixed tracks. Just saying he would be reluctant to release seperated tracks. Anyway, it sounds like they'll be in this weird format.

http://www.u-myx.com/

Genius Gone Insane · August 8th, 2008, 07:06 PM

Can't stop listening to this cd.

wishtheend · September 30th, 2008, 03:15 PM

I know, I'm a bastard for DLing it - but Godspeed's production turned out really well. I'll have to spin a few more times to dig deeper - but first impressions are great.

Fragle · October 15th, 2008, 10:27 AM

one question.....am i the only one who thinks that the kick sounds pretty bad on that record? and aside from it sounding quite fake (imho), i also think it's way too loud overall.
snare also sounds very sampled, although not as bad as the kick...

however....the guitars sound f'n great imho....and i remember another thread where it said that there only was some minor EQ going on, otherwise they're dry as fuck. very cool if you ask me....
vocals sound great, too, although i'd bet that a lot of it comes from having dani filth behind the mic...even though he's getting bashed like there's no tomorrow, that guy has some serious pipes...imho

cobhc · October 15th, 2008, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragle

one question.....am i the only one who thinks that the kick sounds pretty bad on that record?

Edit:- I'm feeling nice lol

The New Cradle of Filth Record.

Was discussed some on this thread already. But yeah, it's kinda different to what we're used to hearing.

Fragle · October 15th, 2008, 04:19 PM

didn't see it, sorry...

on the other hand, i thought all andy-cradle related discussion was supposed to be in this thread...no need for another one me thinks...

but to refer to my original post, i'm not even saying the kick sounds extremely bad or whatever...it's mainly the fact that it's way too fucking loud in the mix.
plus it sounds fake.

but, reading through that thread....who am i to decide however i feel about the album

Sinister Mephisto · October 28th, 2008, 05:58 PM

Just bought Godspeed and it's really cool. Haven't decided if I like the songs yet, but the production is amazing. Any information? Guitar and snare specifically.

JoshSylosis · October 30th, 2008, 12:27 PM

I might be wrong but I think the guitars are Randall RM100 Ultra XL

skuller · October 30th, 2008, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanbailey

I agree 100%, inward vocals are fucking terrible.

*Kage Snoring*

[Jack] Oh, my god. I've done it. Kage, come here I want you!

[Kage]What?! What?! God! I was sleeping dude! What are you talkin about?

[Jack] Oh, my god...

[Kage] What?

[Jack] I did it.

[Kage] What'd You Do?

[Jack] I've done it.. I fuckin did it.

[Kage] What?

[Jack] The most powerful tool in singing technology since yodeling, dude. Oh, my god, inward singing!

[Kage] What?

[Jack] Check it out. It's an invention and it makes non-stop rocking possible. Think about it, man! Rock singers are only rockin you half the time, the other time they're... they're... they're... they're... breathing in but not any more baby! HAHAHA... not with inward singing. Check it out...

*Jack breathing*

[Singing] And then I start some lyrics and you
[Inward Singing] Can't believe I'm singing
[Singing] And I'm never fucking stopping and I'm
[Inward Singing] Always fucking singing
[Singing] Now you know that I will never
[Inward Singing] Stop the fucking singing
[Singing] I'm like a fucking one man band, I'm like a fucking one man
[Inward Singing] Band!

[Jack]And I can sing like that all fuckin night...

[Kage] Wow... it wasn't really non-stop though. There was a slight...

[Jack]AHH shut up! It is non stop and theother thing is that when I'm fucking singing in it sounds even BETTER than when I'm singing out!
Shut up! Fuck you! You fuckin dick! Always ney saying everything I create! You piece of shit, you create something like inward singing! You fucking shit you fucking sit in your tower...

*Kage Laughing*

[Jack]...and fucking nap... what's funny? You fucking bitch!

*Kage Continues To Laugh*

[Jack]Fuckin, fuck yeah, fuckin... cockass! [long pause] You're fired from the band.

[Kage] Umm, that won't be necessary, Jack.
[Jack] Why?
[Kage] Well, I'm quitting.
[Jack] What?
[Kage] I quit.

LydonB · October 30th, 2008, 07:16 PM

Album sounds freaking awesome. I really dig the snare. My only complaint would be about the orchestral sections. I think having a real chamber ensemble play the parts for them would be so awesome.

I remember they used a choir for Damnation and a Day and it kicked so much ass. Did they use a real choir this time around?

Genius Gone Insane · November 11th, 2008, 11:31 AM

The symphonic instruments sound great! What is it?

January 16th, 2007, 12:18 PM	#26 (permalink)
Genius Gone Insane http://www.¯\(°_o)/¯.com Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 5,191	Thornography Vocal Effects A couple times on track 6 (ie around 3:00) there are some killer vox. Sounds like 2 vox tracks, one with a flanger maybe... Anyway, what are the vocal effects that you are using on that part? Edit: BTW this record gets better and better with each listen Last edited by Genius Gone Insane : January 17th, 2007 at 06:05 PM.

September 3rd, 2007, 03:25 PM	#30 (permalink)
deanbailey O.C.D Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cape Town Posts: 909	It is indeed inward, as are alot of the vocal techniques these days. __________________ www.sabretoothband.com www.facebook.com/sabretoothband www.myspace.com/sabretoothband www.reverbnation.com/sabretooth

September 6th, 2007, 08:34 AM	#33 (permalink)
deanbailey O.C.D Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cape Town Posts: 909	yeah, i guessed that the jfac vocalist does it outward. I'm mainly referring to that abundance of deathcore bands on myspace. __________________ www.sabretoothband.com www.facebook.com/sabretoothband www.myspace.com/sabretoothband www.reverbnation.com/sabretooth

September 7th, 2007, 07:23 PM	#35 (permalink)
deanbailey O.C.D Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cape Town Posts: 909	I agree 100%, inward vocals are fucking terrible. __________________ www.sabretoothband.com www.facebook.com/sabretoothband www.myspace.com/sabretoothband www.reverbnation.com/sabretooth

January 3rd, 2008, 06:59 AM	#37 (permalink)
kaomao Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bareggio - Milano - Italy (Shitty Town) Posts: 5,176	Thornography will be releasead on a special edition format: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bla...wsitemID=87594 It will have two songs with separated tracs so you can do your own mix. Andy will those tracks have all drum separated or what? or will it be something like Lamb Of God? di tracks ? lol __________________ Maurizio chaos and order studio on facebook My kick collection https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2174014/The...k_On_Earth.wav https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2174014/KaomaoKicks.rar

September 3rd, 2007, 01:48 PM	#29 (permalink)
mpigott Can"eh"dian Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 138	Does he not also do "in" screaming. Where you breathe in as oposed to out.

September 7th, 2007, 07:03 PM	#34 (permalink)
derfbonker Flaccid Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 348	I think that if you can't do it outward, then don't bother. It sounds retarded sucking in.

January 3rd, 2008, 08:46 PM	#40 (permalink)
Sinister Mephisto 1337 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,908	I'm pretty sure Andy wasn't saying he would actually send bands the un fixed tracks. Just saying he would be reluctant to release seperated tracks. Anyway, it sounds like they'll be in this weird format. http://www.u-myx.com/

August 8th, 2008, 07:06 PM	#41 (permalink)
Genius Gone Insane http://www.¯\(°_o)/¯.com Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 5,191	Can't stop listening to this cd.

September 30th, 2008, 03:15 PM	#42 (permalink)
wishtheend clip the apex Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SL, UT Posts: 829	I know, I'm a bastard for DLing it - but Godspeed's production turned out really well. I'll have to spin a few more times to dig deeper - but first impressions are great.

October 15th, 2008, 10:27 AM	#43 (permalink)
Fragle Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 1,987	one question.....am i the only one who thinks that the kick sounds pretty bad on that record? and aside from it sounding quite fake (imho), i also think it's way too loud overall. snare also sounds very sampled, although not as bad as the kick... however....the guitars sound f'n great imho....and i remember another thread where it said that there only was some minor EQ going on, otherwise they're dry as fuck. very cool if you ask me.... vocals sound great, too, although i'd bet that a lot of it comes from having dani filth behind the mic...even though he's getting bashed like there's no tomorrow, that guy has some serious pipes...imho

October 15th, 2008, 04:19 PM	#45 (permalink)
Fragle Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 1,987	didn't see it, sorry... on the other hand, i thought all andy-cradle related discussion was supposed to be in this thread...no need for another one me thinks... but to refer to my original post, i'm not even saying the kick sounds extremely bad or whatever...it's mainly the fact that it's way too fucking loud in the mix. plus it sounds fake. but, reading through that thread....who am i to decide however i feel about the album Last edited by Fragle : October 15th, 2008 at 04:24 PM.

October 28th, 2008, 05:58 PM	#46 (permalink)
Sinister Mephisto 1337 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,908	Just bought Godspeed and it's really cool. Haven't decided if I like the songs yet, but the production is amazing. Any information? Guitar and snare specifically.

October 30th, 2008, 12:27 PM	#47 (permalink)
JoshSylosis WWW.MYSPACE.COM/SYLOSIS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Reading, Berkshire Posts: 514	I might be wrong but I think the guitars are Randall RM100 Ultra XL __________________ WWW.MYSPACE.COM/SYLOSIS

October 30th, 2008, 07:16 PM	#49 (permalink)
LydonB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 1,763	Album sounds freaking awesome. I really dig the snare. My only complaint would be about the orchestral sections. I think having a real chamber ensemble play the parts for them would be so awesome. I remember they used a choir for Damnation and a Day and it kicked so much ass. Did they use a real choir this time around?

November 11th, 2008, 11:31 AM	#50 (permalink)
Genius Gone Insane http://www.¯\(°_o)/¯.com Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 5,191	The symphonic instruments sound great! What is it?