NEVERMORE - Page 3

kaomao · February 14th, 2007, 06:27 AM

that's a click bleed to me, or a drum stick keeping the timing, but I think it's click.
it stops really soon.

TTOS · February 14th, 2007, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkyness

maybe they left it in to give the anoraks something to talk about

I know! .... I really need to get out more.... Ahem.

Andy Sneap · February 14th, 2007, 01:16 PM

no, it's click, but so what, performance was good and we liked the feel of vocal, don't think it affected record sales but I may be wrong....

sparkyness · February 14th, 2007, 01:39 PM

see this is where I expected the big name producer to start rolling out the cliches and refer to mistakes like that as adding "character" to a track....

I love stuff like that. For the life of me I can't remember the album, but I can remember hearing a phone ringing very faintly on a track. It used to drive me mental until I got the story: apparently the vocal was being recorded in the control room, the phone rang during the take so they decided to leave it in.

Genius Gone Insane · February 14th, 2007, 04:32 PM

Critiquing Andy?

TTOS · February 15th, 2007, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Sneap

no, it's click, but so what, performance was good and we liked the feel of vocal, don't think it affected record sales but I may be wrong....

You're not wrong, it's a fucking fantastic album, It's fantastically produced and fantastically performed. It's in my top 3 albums of all time (Rust In Peace, Tempo of The Damned and TGE). The whole thing sounds awesome. I especially love the sound of the toms at the beginning of Sentient 6, the eq and the reverb really make the toms sound awesome. It was definitely not meant to be a negative criticism, just an observation. Considering (IMHO) that the best produced metal album of all time is Tempo and my demo's sound pretty shitty I am in no position to criticise!

sparkyness · February 15th, 2007, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genius Gone Insane

Critiquing Andy?

hardly....I'm just a sarcastic bastard

....I'd actually would be critical if they'd thought it sounded cool but replaced/altered the take with the click!

just read that thread (slightly before my time.....ouch!).

Genius Gone Insane · February 15th, 2007, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkyness

hardly....I'm just a sarcastic bastard

....I'd actually would be critical if they'd thought it sounded cool but replaced/altered the take with the click!

just read that thread (slightly before my time.....ouch!).

Yeah I got so much shit for that! ha ha, whatayagonnado...

kaomao · February 17th, 2007, 03:36 AM

Andy nobody is arguing about the great recod it is, but that's great to discover all of that stuff from records, click bleeds, mistriggering, oh spills ans so on ahahah
you're a master and so it doesn't affect your god essence!
we just kneel and say we're not worthy.. (remember wayne's world?)
anyway great job on TGE!! really massive sound!
I struggle to get a sound massive like that!

Tachy · February 17th, 2007, 04:03 AM

yes, I'm agree with Kaomao, TGE is great in every way.....but guys I'm steel waiting a Nevermore DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gnash · February 19th, 2007, 07:52 AM

Speaking of shit bleeding through, listen to the CLASH's "Rock the Casbah". During a breakdown in the song there is a wristwatch alarm playing "DIXIE" in the mix. I know it's a wristwatch alarm, because I had the same one in 1982, and noticed it the first time I heard the song.

Where She Wept · February 20th, 2007, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genius Gone Insane

Where did you read this?

Somewhere on the forum right after the album came out.

Exocaster · February 21st, 2007, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Where She Wept

Somewhere on the forum right after the album came out.

I think I remember reading that as well.

Of course, I also vaguely remember reading it's 2 tracks of Jeff on one side, Recto panned @ 100, Krank panned at 80, and two tracks of Steve on the opposite, same heads, same panning.

So I don't know, really.

Exocaster · February 21st, 2007, 11:25 AM

I did a bit of searching, and found this. Andy says there's four rhythm tracks.

This Godless Endeavor Guitar Tone??

Sinister Mephisto · February 21st, 2007, 10:08 PM

I thought it was exactly this "2 tracks of Jeff on one side, Recto panned @ 100, Krank panned at 80, and two tracks of Steve on the opposite, same heads, same panning." as Exocaster said, EXCEPT, I thought Jeff did all four tracks on his songs, and Steve did all four on his songs. I'm not sure why I thought that though, at least partially because it sounds like the same guitar player on both sides to me, and sounds different on Steve's songs. But maybe I'm looking for them to sound like that.

Regardless I'm almost posative about these things,

4 Tracks
Mesa + Krank
SM57

NickL · February 22nd, 2007, 11:17 PM

I'm 99% sure that the three rhythm tracks mix was on Enemies of Reality, and somehow it got confused with TGE. But for the life of me I couldn't tell you if which heads they were was ever explained. Sounds like a recto though.

Sinister Mephisto · February 23rd, 2007, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Broodwich

I'm 99% sure that the three rhythm tracks mix was on Enemies of Reality, and somehow it got confused with TGE. But for the life of me I couldn't tell you if which heads they were was ever explained. Sounds like a recto though.

Yeah, I'm almost posative it's three recto on EOR.

Exocaster · February 23rd, 2007, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinister Mephisto

Yeah, I'm almost posative it's three recto on EOR.

I'll go so far as to say it's three tracks of Triple Recto through a Mesa 4x12. That's what I remember, at least...

aramism · February 28th, 2007, 12:56 AM

so is there a final verdict on TGE how the guitars were set up. we're all on the same page that there is def some sort of mix of a dual recto and a krank head???

Sinister Mephisto · February 28th, 2007, 01:00 AM

Uneasy_Conscience · April 11th, 2007, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tachy

I'm in search of the dvd of Nevermore, ther is anyone that Knows if this dvd is out ?

ciao! non adesso...forse tre mesi....non lo so.

Sinister Mephisto · April 12th, 2007, 11:45 AM

Aha! My months of Italian finally pay off! I understand completely!

w00t.

NickL · April 19th, 2007, 02:25 AM

is this a beta52 on the kick on this album? I love this fuckin kick!

edit: stupid question there's a goddamn picture of one on the first page

but could someone tell me what kind of click pad he has on those kicks?

AudioPhile777 · April 19th, 2007, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Broodwich

is this a beta52 on the kick on this album? I love this fuckin kick!

edit: stupid question there's a goddamn picture of one on the first page

but could someone tell me what kind of click pad he has on those kicks?

Evans Nylon.

http://www.evansdrumheads.com/EVAPro....aspx?ID=EQPB1

I like how they sound... but they need to be changed (given moderate usage) every other month...

Genius Gone Insane · April 19th, 2007, 05:27 PM

James' fabulous solo on Track 7 was recorded with the _________________ amp. Anyone?

February 14th, 2007, 06:27 AM	#51 (permalink)
kaomao Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bareggio - Milano - Italy (Shitty Town) Posts: 5,176	that's a click bleed to me, or a drum stick keeping the timing, but I think it's click. it stops really soon. __________________ Maurizio chaos and order studio on facebook My kick collection https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2174014/The...k_On_Earth.wav https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2174014/KaomaoKicks.rar

February 14th, 2007, 01:39 PM	#54 (permalink)
sparkyness Explore The Space Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,105	see this is where I expected the big name producer to start rolling out the cliches and refer to mistakes like that as adding "character" to a track.... I love stuff like that. For the life of me I can't remember the album, but I can remember hearing a phone ringing very faintly on a track. It used to drive me mental until I got the story: apparently the vocal was being recorded in the control room, the phone rang during the take so they decided to leave it in. __________________ myspace www.cleverbedsit.com

February 17th, 2007, 03:36 AM	#59 (permalink)
kaomao Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bareggio - Milano - Italy (Shitty Town) Posts: 5,176	Andy nobody is arguing about the great recod it is, but that's great to discover all of that stuff from records, click bleeds, mistriggering, oh spills ans so on ahahah you're a master and so it doesn't affect your god essence! we just kneel and say we're not worthy.. (remember wayne's world?) anyway great job on TGE!! really massive sound! I struggle to get a sound massive like that! __________________ Maurizio chaos and order studio on facebook My kick collection https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2174014/The...k_On_Earth.wav https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2174014/KaomaoKicks.rar

February 17th, 2007, 04:03 AM	#60 (permalink)
Tachy Senior Fuckers Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Italy Posts: 1,377	yes, I'm agree with Kaomao, TGE is great in every way.....but guys I'm steel waiting a Nevermore DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ www.magostudio.com e mail : magostudio@hotmail.it http://www.myspace.com/erosionband Nuendo 4, focusrite-spl preamps, jackson guitars, marshall, peavey, framus, mesa boogie, genelec monitors, rme.

February 19th, 2007, 07:52 AM	#61 (permalink)
Gnash Lefty Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warrensburg, MO Posts: 1,271	Speaking of shit bleeding through, listen to the CLASH's "Rock the Casbah". During a breakdown in the song there is a wristwatch alarm playing "DIXIE" in the mix. I know it's a wristwatch alarm, because I had the same one in 1982, and noticed it the first time I heard the song. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/shanemeyer51...p?id=560372282 http://www.youtube.com/Gnash5150

February 14th, 2007, 01:16 PM	#53 (permalink)
Andy Sneap Metal Guru Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: at home Posts: 2,713	no, it's click, but so what, performance was good and we liked the feel of vocal, don't think it affected record sales but I may be wrong....

February 14th, 2007, 04:32 PM	#55 (permalink)
Genius Gone Insane http://www.¯\(°_o)/¯.com Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 5,191	Critiquing Andy?

February 21st, 2007, 11:25 AM	#64 (permalink)
Exocaster Nozzle Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 693	I did a bit of searching, and found this. Andy says there's four rhythm tracks. This Godless Endeavor Guitar Tone?? __________________ Flowers on the razor wire.

February 21st, 2007, 10:08 PM	#65 (permalink)
Sinister Mephisto 1337 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,908	I thought it was exactly this "2 tracks of Jeff on one side, Recto panned @ 100, Krank panned at 80, and two tracks of Steve on the opposite, same heads, same panning." as Exocaster said, EXCEPT, I thought Jeff did all four tracks on his songs, and Steve did all four on his songs. I'm not sure why I thought that though, at least partially because it sounds like the same guitar player on both sides to me, and sounds different on Steve's songs. But maybe I'm looking for them to sound like that. Regardless I'm almost posative about these things, 4 Tracks Mesa + Krank SM57 Last edited by Sinister Mephisto : February 21st, 2007 at 10:10 PM.

February 22nd, 2007, 11:17 PM	#66 (permalink)
NickL I'm not here. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,125	I'm 99% sure that the three rhythm tracks mix was on Enemies of Reality, and somehow it got confused with TGE. But for the life of me I couldn't tell you if which heads they were was ever explained. Sounds like a recto though. __________________

February 28th, 2007, 12:56 AM	#69 (permalink)
aramism Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,480	so is there a final verdict on TGE how the guitars were set up. we're all on the same page that there is def some sort of mix of a dual recto and a krank head???

February 28th, 2007, 01:00 AM	#70 (permalink)
Sinister Mephisto 1337 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,908	Yep.

April 12th, 2007, 11:45 AM	#72 (permalink)
Sinister Mephisto 1337 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,908	Aha! My months of Italian finally pay off! I understand completely! w00t.

April 19th, 2007, 02:25 AM	#73 (permalink)
NickL I'm not here. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,125	is this a beta52 on the kick on this album? I love this fuckin kick! edit: stupid question there's a goddamn picture of one on the first page but could someone tell me what kind of click pad he has on those kicks? __________________ Last edited by NickL : April 19th, 2007 at 02:56 AM.

April 19th, 2007, 05:27 PM	#75 (permalink)
Genius Gone Insane http://www.¯\(°_o)/¯.com Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 5,191	James' fabulous solo on Track 7 was recorded with the _________________ amp. Anyone?