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Old June 4th, 2008, 11:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Metal recommendations for someone who loves Classical music

I have a physics teacher who recently told our class that in his opinion, music stopped progressing after Bach, and instead has degenerated since the classical period. Naturally, some music lovers in our class were offended by this statement and our teacher encouraged us to challenge him with submissions of new music for him to listen to.

Obviously it's mostly an opinion thing, but I'm still interested in showing him why I think what I listen to is beautiful. I mentioned to him that there actually are some similarities between metal and classical, and that I feel that *in some cases* metal is a modern extension of the classical genre.

So, I'm making a CD for him. If you were doing the same thing, and you wanted to show a lover of classical music that metal can be just as beautiful and complex, what would you put on the CD?

Any suggestions would be helpful.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 12:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Therion- Secret of the Runes, Gothic Kaballah
Virgin Black- Sombre Romantic, Elegant... and Dying
Nightwish- (check out the song "Ghost Love Score"); all their albums are very symphonic
Rhapsody- Legendary Tales, Symphony of Enchanted Lands
Turisas- The Varangian Way
Dimmu Borgir- Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, Death Cult Armageddon
Moonsorrow- Kivenkantaja
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Old June 5th, 2008, 01:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have a physics teacher who recently told our class that in his opinion, music stopped progressing after Bach, and instead has degenerated since the classical period. Naturally, some music lovers in our class were offended by this statement and our teacher encouraged us to challenge him with submissions of new music for him to listen to.

Obviously it's mostly an opinion thing, but I'm still interested in showing him why I think what I listen to is beautiful. I mentioned to him that there actually are some similarities between metal and classical, and that I feel that *in some cases* metal is a modern extension of the classical genre.

So, I'm making a CD for him. If you were doing the same thing, and you wanted to show a lover of classical music that metal can be just as beautiful and complex, what would you put on the CD?

Any suggestions would be helpful.
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if he actually think's that music has stopped progressing since bach... well that's pretty retarded... the romantics and the modern composers have explored whole musical universes that earlier composers only hinted at
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Old June 5th, 2008, 03:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old June 5th, 2008, 05:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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if he actually think's that music has stopped progressing since bach... well that's pretty retarded... the romantics and the modern composers have explored whole musical universes that earlier composers only hinted at
yeah you can't respect a teacher who thinks that... and it sounds like any attempts to convince him otherwise will be futile.

You can start by mentioning Glass, Britten, Schoenberg, Penderecki, Rachmaninov, Gorecki, Ligeti, etc etc

But you could try something from the following bands:

Gorguts (Obscura)
Dream Theater
At the Gates (The Red in the Sky is Ours)
Deathspell Omega (Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice)
Necrophagist (The onset of Putrefaction)
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Old June 5th, 2008, 05:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Therion- Secret of the Runes, Gothic Kaballah
Virgin Black- Sombre Romantic, Elegant... and Dying
Nightwish- (check out the song "Ghost Love Score"); all their albums are very symphonic
Rhapsody- Legendary Tales, Symphony of Enchanted Lands
Turisas- The Varangian Way
Dimmu Borgir- Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, Death Cult Armageddon
Moonsorrow- Kivenkantaja
Symphonic does not equal classical. Chances are that someone who loves classical music will hate these.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 06:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old June 5th, 2008, 07:02 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old June 5th, 2008, 12:03 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Symphonic does not equal classical. Chances are that someone who loves classical music will hate these.
Well, he's not asking for Classical music. He's asking for music that is demonstrably unique, intellectual and progressive. I figured these bands might appeal because of the symphonic elements and obvious influence of Classical music. If this teacher truly doesn't believe that music has progressed, then no recommendations we give will change his mind. There have been plenty of musical movements since Classicism, such as Romanticism and Modernism, not to mention all the forms of twentieth century jazz, blues and rock, which I'm assuming he dislikes as well (I'm also assuming that by "Classical" we mean the specific era, not just any instrumental music with an orchestra). Also, lots of modern symphonic bands have been influenced by soundtrack music, which finds much of its inspiration from Romantic music. I think that an open-minded person would appreciate the bands I've listed.

But, if he truly is a close-minded, stuck up prick who doesn't believe that music has progressed since Bach, then I don't believe there's much we can do for him.

Make him listen to Dvorak too. If he dislikes that, then he's just being stubborn.
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