JRT12's Stinnett Guitar build

STINNETT · February 22nd, 2009, 01:55 PM

Action is oficially kicked off on JRT12's guitar - and after speaking with him, we both though it would be a cool idea to cover the build with a thread right here.

Seeing how this is just beginning, there's not much to show yet - but there will be in the coming weeks.

Today I've selected the wood for the neck laminates. These are all from the same board and there is some great flame in them - especially considering that they're rough and totally dry. Going to look killer with some finish!

Speaking of necks, this one is going to get a bound ebony board with offset dots - and also I'm going to add carbon fiber rods. They will increase the stiffness and ensure that there are no dead spots anywhere on the neck.

More pics soon.

Petrocker · February 22nd, 2009, 01:57 PM

Great! Looking forward to see the progress.

Metaltastic · February 22nd, 2009, 02:04 PM

Fuck yeah man, are you planning on making it a natural finish again, or some sort of dye? Also, how exactly does one do binding (especially on a neck), anyway?

And I spy an inquisitive golden nose!

STINNETT · February 22nd, 2009, 02:14 PM

This one will get an oil finish, undecided yet on whether I will stain the body first. I've got to get some sample pictures together for him to check out.

You bind the fretboard by simply machining it a little narrower than it needs to be and gluing the binding material on there before it's fretted. Black plastic in this case.
It makes for more work when fretting, but it's worth it.

STINNETT · February 22nd, 2009, 02:14 PM

Oh yeah, and Murphy is always helping me out.

Metaltastic · February 22nd, 2009, 02:16 PM

Ah, coolness - black plastic on an ebony board, though? I would've gone white, personally, but it ain't my guitar! (sadly

)

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Originally Posted by Metalhead28

Oh yeah, and Murphy is always helping me out.

Haha, giving it the smell test

KeithTidd · February 22nd, 2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalhead28

This one will get an oil finish, undecided yet on whether I will stain the body first. I've got to get some sample pictures together for him to check out.

.

Have you tried staining wood with red wine? I saw some jazz boxes that were stanied with merlot and it looked amazing. Maybe if you have a little trim wood left over you could try different stains on it.

STINNETT · February 22nd, 2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Metaltastic

Ah, coolness - black plastic on an ebony board, though? I would've gone white, personally, but it ain't my guitar! (sadly

)

Haha, giving it the smell test

Well, I wanted the benefits of the binding without it being very noticable - to stay in keeping with the understated design of the guitar. You won't notice it until you handle it.

cobhc · February 23rd, 2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Metalhead28

Well, I wanted the benefits of the binding without it being very noticable - to stay in keeping with the understated design of the guitar. You won't notice it until you handle it.

Excuse my ignorance on this, but what benefits do binding provide apart from the obvious asthetics?

STINNETT · February 23rd, 2009, 11:30 AM

No fret slots (or visible fret tangs) on the sides of the neck!
To me, that's as much about feel as it is looks.

One could remove part of the fret tang and fill in the slots so that ithey were smooth and invisible, but if I'm going that far I'd rather just use binding.

Wolfeman · February 23rd, 2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Metalhead28

No fret slots (or visible fret tangs) on the sides of the neck!
To me, that's as much about feel as it is looks.

One could remove part of the fret tang and fill in the slots so that ithey were smooth and invisible, but if I'm going that far I'd rather just use binding.

I agree with ya.... The guy that built my guitar told me about this also....

grywolf627 · February 23rd, 2009, 11:43 AM

Keep this thread updated. I'm fascinated with this stuff. I'm still kicking myself about missing your introductory offer just by a month or so. Grrrrr.

STINNETT · February 25th, 2009, 11:08 PM

I know this isn't nearly as interesting as actual woodworking pics - but I thought I would show you guys the 3D model I've done of this guitar.
I do 3D design for a living, so it was only natural when I got into luthiery to design everything in 3D and produce some detailed plans before I ever cut any wood. I think this helps me to build far better guitars.

These have some approximate wood textures overlaid - the mahogany I'm using is not that color!

Metaltastic · February 25th, 2009, 11:16 PM

Sweet dude! Nice rendering on the Floyd especially, damn...

slashvanyoung · February 26th, 2009, 07:11 AM

Looks like my Caparison, just with a different headstock and no inlay/binding...

aka looking great!

grywolf627 · February 26th, 2009, 08:16 AM

with a Floyd? One word.....WANT! Ebony fretboard? I've never played ebony, except on my bass...but have always wanted one. How is the tone/feel in comparison to rosewood and maple? (just curious) I'm a big fan of maple fretboards.

Chryst Krispies · February 26th, 2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by grywolf627

with a Floyd? One word.....WANT! Ebony fretboard? I've never played ebony, except on my bass...but have always wanted one. How is the tone/feel in comparison to rosewood and maple? (just curious) I'm a big fan of maple fretboards.

Ebony is smoooooooth.

I like maple too, but ebony with no inlay = FUCK YES.

grywolf627 · February 26th, 2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chryst Krispies

...ebony with no inlay = FUCK YES.

I'll remember that.

slashvanyoung · February 26th, 2009, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grywolf627

with a Floyd? One word.....WANT! Ebony fretboard? I've never played ebony, except on my bass...but have always wanted one. How is the tone/feel in comparison to rosewood and maple? (just curious) I'm a big fan of maple fretboards.

Having guitars with ebony, rosewood and maple boards, I'd say maple sounds much brighter than ebony and rosewood is kinda in between. I like all of them. Ebony feels and sounds just very smooth and "round".

STINNETT · February 26th, 2009, 08:42 AM

The general consensus is that maple is the brightest / snappiest, with ebony a little ways behind, and rosewood being the softest and thus smoothest sounding of the trio. I pretty much agree with that, but I think the differences can be pretty subtle, soundwise.

Maple is usually laquered, so ebony obviously feels totally different. It requires no finish, just a little oiling now and then to keep it from drying out, so it has a really smooth, natural feel. I don't think it sounds tremendously different from rosewood - maybe a bit brighter, a little more attack. It's much denser and harder, so that's to be expected.

grywolf627 · February 26th, 2009, 09:01 AM

Thanks for the info!

musickey · February 26th, 2009, 09:09 AM

That rendering is badass Will! I know that had to take some time.

slashvanyoung · February 26th, 2009, 09:14 AM

Hey Will, when you made that 3d model, did you already have some pre-drawn/pre-modeled elements for like the Floyd etc. or did you model everything from scratch?

STINNETT · February 26th, 2009, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slashvanyoung

Hey Will, when you made that 3d model, did you already have some pre-drawn/pre-modeled elements for like the Floyd etc. or did you model everything from scratch?

Everything from scratch. A combination of diagrams I found on the internet and measuring the stuff I've got on hand. I would have liked to find some existing models - but I wouldn't have trusted them....lol. I would have recreated them anyway.

slashvanyoung · February 26th, 2009, 09:35 AM

Cool. Makes it even more impressive.

February 22nd, 2009, 01:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
STINNETT Bad / Nationwide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,865	JRT12's Stinnett Guitar build Action is oficially kicked off on JRT12's guitar - and after speaking with him, we both though it would be a cool idea to cover the build with a thread right here. Seeing how this is just beginning, there's not much to show yet - but there will be in the coming weeks. Today I've selected the wood for the neck laminates. These are all from the same board and there is some great flame in them - especially considering that they're rough and totally dry. Going to look killer with some finish! Speaking of necks, this one is going to get a bound ebony board with offset dots - and also I'm going to add carbon fiber rods. They will increase the stiffness and ensure that there are no dead spots anywhere on the neck. More pics soon. __________________ SOME TUNES ON SOUNDCLICK STINNETTGUITARS.COM For quotes, info, etc., on my guitars, please e-mail me through the web-site. My PM's have to get deleted here and I can't keep up with them!

February 22nd, 2009, 01:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Petrocker Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 592	Great! Looking forward to see the progress. __________________ Slice The Cake Facebook

February 22nd, 2009, 02:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
STINNETT Bad / Nationwide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,865	This one will get an oil finish, undecided yet on whether I will stain the body first. I've got to get some sample pictures together for him to check out. You bind the fretboard by simply machining it a little narrower than it needs to be and gluing the binding material on there before it's fretted. Black plastic in this case. It makes for more work when fretting, but it's worth it. __________________ SOME TUNES ON SOUNDCLICK STINNETTGUITARS.COM For quotes, info, etc., on my guitars, please e-mail me through the web-site. My PM's have to get deleted here and I can't keep up with them!

February 22nd, 2009, 02:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
STINNETT Bad / Nationwide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,865	Oh yeah, and Murphy is always helping me out. __________________ SOME TUNES ON SOUNDCLICK STINNETTGUITARS.COM For quotes, info, etc., on my guitars, please e-mail me through the web-site. My PM's have to get deleted here and I can't keep up with them!

February 23rd, 2009, 11:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
STINNETT Bad / Nationwide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,865	No fret slots (or visible fret tangs) on the sides of the neck! To me, that's as much about feel as it is looks. One could remove part of the fret tang and fill in the slots so that ithey were smooth and invisible, but if I'm going that far I'd rather just use binding. __________________ SOME TUNES ON SOUNDCLICK STINNETTGUITARS.COM For quotes, info, etc., on my guitars, please e-mail me through the web-site. My PM's have to get deleted here and I can't keep up with them!

February 22nd, 2009, 02:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Metaltastic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 19,937	Fuck yeah man, are you planning on making it a natural finish again, or some sort of dye? Also, how exactly does one do binding (especially on a neck), anyway? And I spy an inquisitive golden nose!

February 25th, 2009, 11:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
STINNETT Bad / Nationwide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,865	I know this isn't nearly as interesting as actual woodworking pics - but I thought I would show you guys the 3D model I've done of this guitar. I do 3D design for a living, so it was only natural when I got into luthiery to design everything in 3D and produce some detailed plans before I ever cut any wood. I think this helps me to build far better guitars. These have some approximate wood textures overlaid - the mahogany I'm using is not that color! __________________ SOME TUNES ON SOUNDCLICK STINNETTGUITARS.COM For quotes, info, etc., on my guitars, please e-mail me through the web-site. My PM's have to get deleted here and I can't keep up with them!

February 25th, 2009, 11:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
Metaltastic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 19,937	Sweet dude! Nice rendering on the Floyd especially, damn...

February 26th, 2009, 07:11 AM	#15 (permalink)
slashvanyoung Dopefish lives! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,458	Looks like my Caparison, just with a different headstock and no inlay/binding... aka looking great!

February 26th, 2009, 08:42 AM	#20 (permalink)
STINNETT Bad / Nationwide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,865	The general consensus is that maple is the brightest / snappiest, with ebony a little ways behind, and rosewood being the softest and thus smoothest sounding of the trio. I pretty much agree with that, but I think the differences can be pretty subtle, soundwise. Maple is usually laquered, so ebony obviously feels totally different. It requires no finish, just a little oiling now and then to keep it from drying out, so it has a really smooth, natural feel. I don't think it sounds tremendously different from rosewood - maybe a bit brighter, a little more attack. It's much denser and harder, so that's to be expected. __________________ SOME TUNES ON SOUNDCLICK STINNETTGUITARS.COM For quotes, info, etc., on my guitars, please e-mail me through the web-site. My PM's have to get deleted here and I can't keep up with them!

February 26th, 2009, 09:09 AM	#22 (permalink)
musickey djenital moosic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 2,038	That rendering is badass Will! I know that had to take some time. __________________ what is cranking guitars? I know it sounds heavy, but how should I do it? ___________________________ ___________________________ ___________________________ _____________________**** _____________________** _____________________****

February 26th, 2009, 09:14 AM	#23 (permalink)
slashvanyoung Dopefish lives! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,458	Hey Will, when you made that 3d model, did you already have some pre-drawn/pre-modeled elements for like the Floyd etc. or did you model everything from scratch?

February 26th, 2009, 09:35 AM	#25 (permalink)
slashvanyoung Dopefish lives! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,458	Cool. Makes it even more impressive.