Guess what I am reading???

[Buzzard]

Unfit for Command.

and boy is he ever

[Arg_Hamster]

I was about to say "Girls and animals"...

[MyHatred]

I just checked out the cover of the book and they did a good job making him look like Frankenstein .... I just wish there was better candidates this election. I can't stand Bush and I really don't like Kerry more and more....Maybe I just won't vote this year I am not happy with either one of them at this point. I have never heard 2 people in a presidential election say so much but say so little.. Everyone has to agree that they both have spent their whole campaigns damning each other about stupid shit that is not pertinent information to being a president. Sorry the whole military record thing is beyond OLD (next thing you know they will be comparing the size of their units). and not talking about important issues like how are they going to take care of the Iraq war, economy, health care, environment, North Korea, Iran, Sudan, Job losses, these guys both suck .....All they have said is they are going to do a better job at it then the other guy.. I want to know HOW?

[Buzzard]

Originally Posted by MyHatredforYouRunsDeep

I just checked out the cover of the book and they did a good job making him look like Frankenstein .... I just wish there was better candidates this election. I can't stand Bush and I really don't like Kerry more and more....Maybe I just won't vote this year I am not happy with either one of them at this point. I have never heard 2 people in a presidential election say so much but say so little.. Everyone has to agree that they both have spent their whole campaigns damning each other about stupid shit that is not pertinent information to being a president. Sorry the whole military record thing is beyond OLD (next thing you know they will be comparing the size of their units). and not talking about important issues like how are they going to take care of the Iraq war, economy, health care, environment, North Korea, Iran, Sudan, Job losses, these guys both suck .....All they have said is they are going to do a better job at it then the other guy.. I want to know HOW?

All though me , Myself being politically aware for almost 25 years now I still say Bush is doing the right thing in Iraq and He has my vote.
M.H.F.Y.R.D. getthat book, unfit for command- I read 100 pages without a break. It is very interesting how much of a fucking liar kerry is.
The fact that the press is trying to squash the swift boat vets for over 2 years now is insane ans oneof the real problems of this country.
Freedom of Information.;

[MyHatred]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

All though me , Myself being politically aware for almost 25 years now I still say Bush is doing the right thing in Iraq and He has my vote.
M.H.F.Y.R.D. getthat book, unfit for command- I read 100 pages without a break. It is very interesting how much of a fucking liar kerry is.
The fact that the press is trying to squash the swift boat vets for over 2 years now is insane ans oneof the real problems of this country.
Freedom of Information.;

I work for the State of Michigan, my job requires that I read 8 different papers( I know, rough job. ) to stay on top of current events and politics. I am probably the most "aware" of the people posting here( of current events that is, I still need to brush up on some history) and can say that I really don't think Bush or Kerry are fit for command. Yes, Bush sticks with his guns and doesn't sidestep his decisions but he is also a pretty shitty liar too ( Like Kerry I might add). Kerry, on the other hand is just an idiot to make a whole campaign on his time in Vietnam. I mean TONS of people went to Vietnam and yes for the most part they deserve the utmost respect for it( I'm talking about the bad apples that don't..There is always a few). but damn enough already. I have 2 uncles that served in Vietnam and they rarely talk about it. I will check out the book because I always like to hear everyone's opinion and why I try to be civil when voiceing my opinion to others here.Thats why I post here because I AM the minority here with all the Republicans that support Bush. That is why I am really looking forward to the debates. I want to hear both sides opinion.

[Oblivious Maximus]

Great book! I read it all in 3 days.

[The13thCandle]

I still think Kerry would still do a better job. MY OPINION. theres been over 1000 Americans killed after Bushs Mission Accomplished announcement. And i still say Bush will pull Bin Laden out of his ass before the election. Do you feel any safer with the Homeland Security we have now? I dont, Vegas has been rumored to be a target since this shit went down. I think the Kerry book is just an answer to the Bush book and Moore movie. Politicians suck.

[Oblivious Maximus]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

I still say Bush is doing the right thing in Iraq

Same here. I was watching a interview with Bush last night, and he said the US knew Iraq had the ability to develop WMD's, and that we had to act, and I agree with him 100%.

[MyHatred]

Originally Posted by Cryptkeeper

Same here. I was watching a interview with Bush last night, and he said the US knew Iraq had the ability to develop WMD's, and that we had to act, and I agree with him 100%.

Uhh, so can just about all third world countries. So that is not justification for a war. If it was then we would be in Iran and North Korea( I think N.K. already has them) also. Pakistan had a spy selling all countries in the middle east all of our nuclear secrets the one country that didn't get them was.....wait for it.....wait for it.....IRAQ. If we are so concerned about the way Saddam tortured and killed so many people then why the fuck are we not in Sudan right now. The tribes in Darfur kill 30,000 people a month. That there is enough for an invasion in my book.....

[Oblivious Maximus]

Originally Posted by MyHatredforYouRunsDeep

If it was then we would be in Iran and North Korea( I think N.K. already has them) also.

That was one of the questions Bush was asked. Will the US have to use military force on Iran? He said that the US is going to try really hard to solve that problem diplomatically. But one thing is for sure Bush said, "Iran will not have a necular weapon".

[MyHatred]

Originally Posted by Cryptkeeper

That was one of the questions Bush was asked. Will the US have to use military force on Iran? He said that the US is going to try really hard to solve that problem diplomatically. But one thing is for sure Bush said, "Iran will not have a necular weapon".

Yeah, but Lil Kim is over in N.K. blowing up massive bombs and then cites that they are demolishing mountains so that they can build an hydroelectric plant...The catch is this, there is not enough even close to enough water in the area that they testing bombs to build a hydroelectric plant. Kim Jong has been waving his dick in the wind for quite some time and Bush always skirts the issue.

[Oblivious Maximus]

Originally Posted by MyHatredforYouRunsDeep

Yeah, but Lil Kim is over in N.K. blowing up massive bombs and then cites that they are demolishing mountains so that they can build an hydroelectric plant...The catch is this, there is not enough even close to enough water in the area that they testing bombs to build a hydroelectric plant. Kim Jong has been waving his dick in the wind for quite some time and Bush always skirts the issue.

Yeah, North Korea needs to be delt with. I don't want that crazy midget fuck with nukes!

[Hawng]

Originally Posted by The13thCandle

I still think Kerry would still do a better job. MY OPINION. theres been over 1000 Americans killed after Bushs Mission Accomplished announcement..

1000 killed after the mission acomplished, but yet no more civilians have died in our country since 9/11 from the hands of terrorists.
And what if Bush decided to go defence instead of on the offencive after 9/11 like Kerry said hes going to do if elected? DO you think if we left those terrorist scumbags to there daily training and recruting of "soldiers" we would be safer? hell no, they would still be orginized( key word there, their lack of orginization mean they are less effective)

And i still say Bush will pull Bin Laden out of his ass before the election..

I hope he does , this way all these jawa fucks will realize they cant hide

Do you feel any safer with the Homeland Security we have now? I dont, Vegas has been rumored to be a target since this shit went down. I think the Kerry book is just an answer to the Bush book and Moore movie. Politicians suck.

Hell yeah I feel safer...........I honestly feel that terrorists wont get there hands on planes to fly into buildings, I know for a fact that it would so hard for them to get there hands on materials for a oklahoma city type bomb that it wouldnt even be worth it to try. Just try to buy 1000 lbs of fertilizer, the feds will be crawling out of everywhere wanting to know what you plan to do with it, and how secure it is ect,ect. . And how about dynomite? they do backround check on you , your family, the people you know, the people they know.
About the only thing they could do here now is get a gun and just start killing people, mabey make some pipe bombs, but they want to see devistation, they dont want to kill ten people, they want to kill ten thousand people.

Richmond has been rumored to be a target because of the federal reserve here since 9/11......................But rumors are just that ,there just rumors, not fact.

[Oblivious Maximus]

Do you feel any safer with the Homeland Security we have now?

Yes! I believe what Dick Cheney said a few weeks ago. If Kerry is elected, I feel that this country will be vulnerable to another attack.

[CoverUinOil]

mmm sorry but nyc doesnt feel any safer to me since 9/11. there's hasnt been any attacks since 9/11 bcs terrorist are smarter than that. they will wait until bush is re-elected (it will happen no matter what, he stole florida 4years ago and there's proof of that) then wait a few months and then attack again when all of america feels safe with dumbass president in control. Afghanistan was never over. Bush should have centralized his troops over there and blow the shit out of it, then go to iraq. America cannot afford any more battle in any other countries so dont think u'll be doing ass kicking somewhere else in the world. Also this book is interesting but where did they get the facts?????? i mean come on everybody went and critized Moore so why not question about this guy.....war on terror means shit abroad when u cant even stop mexican border jumpers from coming into ur country. Fight the battle at home and let others take care of their own problems

[CoverUinOil]

oh by the way, killing ten people a day sounds pretty scary to me. winter is coming around and its easy to hide a pipe bomb under ur coat. subway can be an easy target on a daily basis. look at what palestinians do everyday in israel. dont think it couldnt happen here either. if u wana feel more like a terrorist i suggest u read the anarchist cookbook. the guys who wrote it didnt invent anything, they simply based themselves on the foundations of terrorist acts

[The13thCandle]

Originally Posted by Cryptkeeper

Yes! I believe what Dick Cheney said a few weeks ago. If Kerry is elected, I feel that this country will be vulnerable to another attack.

I disagree, but thats my opinion. If Bush is elected again, are you ready to go to Iraq? Bush is gonna reinstate the draft and I'll bet you that if he is still in power, we will still be over in Iraq for 4 more years, which will make you eligable to go over. I hope not for your sake.

[Arg_Hamster]

Good debate!

[Hawng]

Originally Posted by CoverUinOil

oh by the way, killing ten people a day sounds pretty scary to me. winter is coming around and its easy to hide a pipe bomb under ur coat.
subway can be an easy target on a daily basis. look at what palestinians do everyday in israel. dont think it couldnt happen here either.

you see the difference between the US and israel/palistine is the US is not 40% jew 60% muslim. there are so many muslims there it is worth it for one muslim to kill himself and kill 10 jews well atleast thats what I learned watching that PBS special where they went to Israel and interveiw all those Hamas fucks

Originally Posted by CoverUinOil

if u wana feel more like a terrorist i suggest u read the anarchist cookbook. the guys who wrote it didnt invent anything, they simply based themselves on the foundations of terrorist acts

Ive read it................... It wasnt based on "terrorist" acts
it was based on Guerilla warfare.......................

guer·ril·la or gue·ril·la n.
A member of an irregular, usually indigenous military or paramilitary unit operating in small bands in occupied territory to harass and undermine the enemy, as by surprise raids.

[Firehead]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

Unfit for Command.

and boy is he ever

Jesus.



They came out with a novel about Bush already?

[Oblivious Maximus]

Originally Posted by The13thCandle

I disagree, but thats my opinion. If Bush is elected again, are you ready to go to Iraq? Bush is gonna reinstate the draft and I'll bet you that if he is still in power, we will still be over in Iraq for 4 more years, which will make you eligable to go over. I hope not for your sake.

If the draft is reinstated, that yes, I will go to Iraq. But, do you have any evidence that proves he is going to reinstate the draft?

[Oblivious Maximus]

Taken from the Presidents offical website:

President Bush Says No Draft

"No, we're not going -- we don't need the draft. Look, the all-volunteer Army is working. The all-volunteer Army... I know Senator McCain and I agree on this issue for certain, the all-volunteer Army works."

~ President George W. Bush, August 10, 2004

President Bush is committed to keeping participation in the United States Armed Services voluntary. The President’s cabinet has stated that a draft is not being considered. Recruitment and retention rates remain strong, and the military has not had any problem maintaining a strong force. President Bush is confident in the current state of the military and has assured that Nation that the all-volunteer military force is working well.

President Bush's Administration has Remained Consistent on the Draft

Vice President Cheney says all volunteer force "works extraordinarily well."
"I don't foresee a situation in which we'd want to go back to the draft. We made a decision after Vietnam to go with an all-volunteer force... The all-volunteer force has produced an absolutely remarkable group of men and women in the service. And I think it works. It works extraordinarily well. And I'm a great believer in it... I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the possibility of going back again to the draft. I think what we have works very well." (Vice President Cheney, Oregon City, OR, September, 17, 2004)

Secretary Rumsfeld calls suggestion of Bush initiated draft "nonsense."
When asked if by the Armed Services Committee about initiating the draft, Secretary Rumsfeld replied, "That is absolute nonsense... It's absolutely false that anyone in this administration is considering reinstituting the draft." (Donald Rumsfeld, Senate Armed Services Committee, September 23, 2004)

John Kerry is using the draft to scare young voters and veterans.
During campaign stops, John Kerry has worked to scare voters by suggesting that President Bush will initiate a draft. "If George Bush were to be re-elected, given the way he has gone about this war and given his avoidance of responsibility in North Korea and Iran and other places, is [a draft] possible? I can't tell you." (John Kerry, September 22, 2004)

[The13thCandle]

Originally Posted by Cryptkeeper

If the draft is reinstated, that yes, I will go to Iraq. But, do you have any evidence that proves he is going to reinstate the draft?

No, no proof. But I know some cities are running PSAs reminding 18 yr olds to register. hmmm.

[Oblivious Maximus]

Originally Posted by The13thCandle

No, no proof. But I know some cities are running PSAs reminding 18 yr olds to register. hmmm.

Which cities? I haven't seen any of those ad's.

[CoverUinOil]

its not about the amount of muslims, its about the amount of infidels. There was only nine hijackers on 9/11 and 3000 infidels (may they rest in peace)