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Old September 29th, 2004, 12:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This was taken from the Lone Star Iconoclast editorial. I think it brings up some valid points, of course it was taken from the opinion section so it is just that, an opinion..The actual paper itself is located in Crawford Texas and I pasted another letter that is endorsed by the whole staff at the paper.


Dear Editor,
Mr. President,


My son recently returned from Iraq last month, in one piece thank God, and I served in the Navy for 22 years as a Senior Enlisted Chief Petty Officer.


Mr. President, I wanted you to know that I am against the war in Iraq and that I feel your foreign policy could have been handled with much more sophistication while maintaining our nation’s honor. Declaring a Preemptive Strike Policy (PSP) as our new U.S. policy does not bestow honor onto those who are loyal to the Uniform Code of Military Justice or the citizens of the United States. It just doesn’t feel like the American way. It’s never been done before, and it blurs the line of integrity and honor. As Commander-in-Chief you should know that. On the contrary, PSP has the effect of eliminating completely any options of working for a much larger REAL coalition before you attack ANYBODY after Afghanistan. Instead, sir, I feel you put your own personal objectives ahead of my son’s life and the lives of those serving in the military just so you could “get even for Daddy.”


Then, to add insult to injury, Mr. President, your budget plan through the year 2009 has the VA funding cut by more than $5 BILLION! Where is the honor in that? Your budget proposal also slices more than $700 MILLION from the R&D of Advanced Prosthetics. Prosthetics, Mr. President. Why would you do that? What if it were YOUR child in a battle zone? Would you have cut the R&D money then? I doubt seriously it. That makes me wonder where your Christian values are, sir, because they don’t come close to what I know Christian values are supposed to be.


Then, Mr. President, last year, when you threatened to veto legislation that would end forever the Disabled Veteran’s Tax, I really got angry with you. By issuing that threat and cutting the prosthetics R&D and VA funding you are stating that you don’t care what happens to the U.S. military men and women in Iraq or Afghanistan or anywhere else for that manner.


Sir, your veto threat only leads me to believe you want the Department of Defense to continue stealing more than $ FIVE Billion a year from disabled veterans to continue using as a slush fund for DOD, rather than give disabled veterans their earned pensions back after they pay for their own disability compensation with it.


In effect I hear you saying you want to continue forcing disabled veterans, both old and new, to forfeit every dollar of their pension for every dollar they get in VA Disability Compensation. At least when Senator Kerry testified to Congress 30 years ago about Viet Nam he had the conviction of doing what he thought was right albeit controversial in regards to hurting veterans.


When you made the veto threat, you KNEW what you were doing was wrong and definitely you would absolutely be hurting veterans, many of them Viet Nam veterans as well. I ask you, sir, who hurt more veterans, you or Senator Kerry? I think the answer is obvious.


I am a Christian, too, Mr. President, but I don’t see any Christian values in continuing the Disabled Veteran Tax against the men and women coming home so severely wounded they are unable to ever work again. Those people, my son included, are all heroes. They deserve better, especially from another Christian. That is if you truly are a Christian.


Even if it weren’t a Christian value standard here that I’m talking about Mr. President, it still speaks volumes about where your true priorities must actually be. Because if you are willing to do this to the heroes coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan before they have even left the battlefield, then what are you truly capable of Mr. President? That is what really scares me. Sir, where is it exactly that you believe Christian values no longer upholds the concept of Honor for Fallen Heroes and their families?


Are you REALLY a Christian Mr. President, or just a wolf in sheep’s clothing?


Respectfully submitted,
Tony Woody
U.S. Navy Ret.
Chief Petty Officer
Exeter, N.H.



Here is what the paper has to say about him again they bring up FACTS on this so it isn't really an opinion. I know it is a ton of stuff to read so take your time and read it, then tell me what your feelings are on this.


Kerry Will Restore
American Dignity



2004 Iconoclast Presidential Endorsement

Few Americans would have voted for George W. Bush four years ago if he had promised that, as President, he would:

Empty the Social Security trust fund by $507 billion to help offset fiscal irresponsibility and at the same time slash Social Security benefits.

Cut Medicare by 17 percent and reduce veterans’ benefits and military pay.

Eliminate overtime pay for millions of Americans and raise oil prices by 50 percent.

Give tax cuts to businesses that sent American jobs overseas, and, in fact, by policy encourage their departure.

Give away billions of tax dollars in government contracts without competitive bids.


Involve this country in a deadly and highly questionable war, and

Take a budget surplus and turn it into the worst deficit in the history of the United States, creating a debt in just four years that will take generations to repay.

These were elements of a hidden agenda that surfaced only after he took office.

The publishers of The Iconoclast endorsed Bush four years ago, based on the things he promised, not on this smoke-screened agenda.

Today, we are endorsing his opponent, John Kerry, based not only on the things that Bush has delivered, but also on the vision of a return to normality that Kerry says our country needs.

Four items trouble us the most about the Bush administration: his initiatives to disable the Social Security system, the deteriorating state of the American economy, a dangerous shift away from the basic freedoms established by our founding fathers, and his continuous mistakes regarding terrorism and Iraq.

President Bush has announced plans to change the Social Security system as we know it by privatizing it, which when considering all the tangents related to such a change, would put the entire economy in a dramatic tailspin.

The Social Security Trust Fund actually lends money to the rest of the government in exchange for government bonds, which is how the system must work by law, but how do you later repay Social Security while you are running a huge deficit? It’s impossible, without raising taxes sometime in the future or becoming fiscally responsible now. Social Security money is being used to escalate our deficit and, at the same time, mask a much larger government deficit, instead of paying down the national debt, which would be a proper use, to guarantee a future gain.

Privatization is problematic in that it would subject Social Security to the ups, downs, and outright crashes of the Stock Market. It would take millions in brokerage fees and commissions out of the system, and, unless we have assurance that the Ivan Boeskys and Ken Lays of the world will be caught and punished as a deterrent, subject both the Market and the Social Security Fund to fraud and market manipulation, not to mention devastate and ruin multitudes of American families that would find their lives lost to starvation, shame, and isolation.

Kerry wants to keep Social Security, which each of us already owns. He says that the program is manageable, since it is projected to be solvent through 2042, with use of its trust funds. This would give ample time to strengthen the economy, reduce the budget deficit the Bush administration has created, and, therefore, bolster the program as needed to fit ever-changing demographics.

Our senior citizens depend upon Social Security. Bush’s answer is radical and uncalled for, and would result in chaos as Americans have never experienced. Do we really want to risk the future of Social Security on Bush by spinning the wheel of uncertainty?

In those dark hours after the World Trade Center attacks, Americans rallied together with a new sense of patriotism. We were ready to follow Bush’s lead through any travail.

He let us down.

When he finally emerged from his hide-outs on remote military bases well after the first crucial hours following the attack, he gave sound-bytes instead of solutions.

He did not trust us to be ready to sacrifice, build up our public and private security infrastructure, or cut down on our energy use to put economic pressure on the enemy in all the nations where he hides. He merely told us to shop, spend, and pretend nothing was wrong.

Rather than using the billions of dollars expended on the invasion of Iraq to shore up our boundaries and go after Osama bin Laden and the Saudi Arabian terrorists, the funds were used to initiate a war with what Bush called a more immediate menace, Saddam Hussein, in oil-rich Iraq. After all, Bush said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction trained on America. We believed him, just as we believed it when he reported that Iraq was the heart of terrorism. We trusted him.

The Iconoclast, the President’s hometown newspaper, took Bush on his word and editorialized in favor of the invasion. The newspaper’s publisher promoted Bush and the invasion of Iraq to Londoners in a BBC interview during the time that the administration was wooing the support of Prime Minister Tony Blair.

Again, he let us down.

We presumed the President had solid proof of the existence of these weapons, what and where they were, even as the search continued. Otherwise, our troops would be in much greater danger and the premise for a hurried-up invasion would be moot, allowing more time to solicit assistance from our allies.

Instead we were duped into following yet another privileged agenda.

Now he argues unconvincingly that Iraq was providing safe harbor to terrorists, his new key justification for the invasion. It is like arguing that America provided safe harbor to terrorists leading to 9/11.

Once and for all, George Bush was President of the United States on that day. No one else. He had been President nine months, he had been officially warned of just such an attack a full month before it happened. As President, ultimately he and only he was responsible for our failure to avert those attacks.

We should expect that a sitting President would vacation less, if at all, and instead tend to the business of running the country, especially if he is, as he likes to boast, a “wartime president.” America is in service 365 days a year. We don’t need a part-time President who does not show up for duty as Commander-In-Chief until he is forced to, and who is in a constant state of blameless denial when things don’t get done.

What has evolved from the virtual go-it-alone conquest of Iraq is more gruesome than a stain on a White House intern’s dress. America’s reputation and influence in the world has diminished, leaving us with brute force as our most persuasive voice.

Iraq is now a quagmire: no WMDs, no substantive link between Saddam and Osama, and no workable plan for the withdrawal of our troops. We are asked to go along on faith. But remember, blind patriotism can be a dangerous thing and “spin” will not bring back to life a dead soldier; certainly not a thousand of them.

Kerry has remained true to his vote granting the President the authority to use the threat of war to intimidate Saddam Hussein into allowing weapons inspections. He believes President Bush rushed into war before the inspectors finished their jobs.

Kerry also voted against President Bush’s $87 billion for troop funding because the bill promoted poor policy in Iraq, privileged Halliburton and other corporate friends of the Bush administration to profiteer from the war, and forced debt upon future generations of Americans.

Kerry’s four-point plan for Iraq is realistic, wise, strong, and correct. With the help from our European and Middle Eastern allies, his plan is to train Iraqi security forces, involve Iraqis in their rebuilding and constitution-writing processes, forgive Iraq’s multi-billion dollar debts, and convene a regional conference with Iraq’s neighbors in order to secure a pledge of respect for Iraq’s borders and non-interference in Iraq’s internal affairs.

The publishers of the Iconoclast differ with Bush on other issues, including the denial of stem cell research, shortchanging veterans’ entitlements, cutting school programs and grants, dictating what our children learn through a thought-controlling “test” from Washington rather than allowing local school boards and parents to decide how young people should be taught, ignoring the environment, and creating extraneous language in the Patriot Act that removes some of the very freedoms that our founding fathers and generations of soldiers fought so hard to preserve.

We are concerned about the vast exportation of jobs to other countries, due in large part to policies carried out by Bush appointees. Funds previously geared at retention of small companies are being given to larger concerns, such as Halliburton — companies with strong ties to oil and gas. Job training has been cut every year that Bush has resided at the White House.

Then there is his resolve to inadequately finance Homeland Security and to cut the Community Oriented Policing Program (COPS) by 94 percent, to reduce money for rural development, to slash appropriations for the Small Business Administration, and to under-fund veterans’ programs.

Likewise troubling is that President Bush fought against the creation of the 9/11 Commission and is yet to embrace its recommendations.

Vice President Cheney’s Halliburton has been awarded multi-billion-dollar contracts without undergoing any meaningful bid process — an enormous conflict of interest — plus the company has been significantly raiding the funds of Export-Import Bank of America, reducing investment that could have gone toward small business trade.

When examined based on all the facts, Kerry’s voting record is enviable and echoes that of many Bush allies who are aghast at how the Bush administration has destroyed the American economy. Compared to Bush on economic issues, Kerry would be an arch-conservative, providing for Americans first. He has what it takes to right our wronged economy.

The re-election of George W. Bush would be a mandate to continue on our present course of chaos. We cannot afford to double the debt that we already have. We need to be moving in the opposite direction.

John Kerry has 30 years of experience looking out for the American people and can navigate our country back to prosperity and re-instill in America the dignity she so craves and deserves. He has served us well as a highly decorated Vietnam veteran and has had a successful career as a district attorney, lieutenant governor, and senator.

Kerry has a positive vision for America, plus the proven intelligence, good sense, and guts to make it happen.

That’s why The Iconoclast urges Texans not to rate the candidate by his hometown or even his political party, but instead by where he intends to take the country.

The Iconoclast wholeheartedly endorses John Kerry.

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Old September 29th, 2004, 12:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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MHFYRD,

It's not really surprising.....I mean, I'm from Mass yet I can't stand Kerry.
Hell, the Boston Globe itself does not support Kerry,they made that fact crystal clear about a month ago in one of their Sunday papers.

Not too mention the guy with 1st letter is from Exeter,N.H. which is about a 40 mins from where I am......Think he's a little biased living in Kerry country??

And I guarantee you that the newspaper does not speak for all it's employees
(Unless there's like only 10 of them)

I just wouldn't read too much into something like that....I'd bet anyone anything of there choice that Pres.Bush takes Texas.....Still it was an interesting read
thanks for posting it...

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MHFYRD,

It's not really surprising.....I mean, I'm from Mass yet I can't stand Kerry.
Hell, the Boston Globe itself does not support Kerry,they made that fact crystal clear about a month ago in one of their Sunday papers.

Not too mention the guy with 1st letter is from Exeter,N.H. which is about a 40 mins from where I am......Think he's a little biased living in Kerry country??

And I guarantee you that the newspaper does not speak for all it's employees
(Unless there's like only 10 of them)

I just wouldn't read too much into something like that....I'd bet anyone anything of there choice that Pres.Bush takes Texas.....Still it was an interesting read
thanks for posting it...

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I wouldn't say that the Boston Globe endorses Bush either. Afterall they are the ones that brought all of this attention to Bush's military record
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I wasn't trying to say that they do.....I'm just making the point that what their local papers have to say about them shouldn't be held in any higher regard than what the rest of the countries news is saying......I mean hell at the end of the day I don't really think they give a shit about who wins, it's actually who broke what story and how many times did they say "Boston Globe" on
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I wasn't trying to say that they do.....I'm just making the point that what their local papers have to say about them shouldn't be held in any higher regard than what the rest of the countries news is saying......I mean hell at the end of the day I don't really think they give a shit about who wins, it's actually who broke what story and how many times did they say "Boston Globe" on
Fox News & CNN....I.E. It's all bullshit!! Fuck The Newspapers, Fuck the parties
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Ohh, I know you weren't I think that it is good journalism if you have 2 different peoples opinion about this kind of stuff. I can't say that I always agree with both sides but that is what is all about!
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Hell, the Boston Globe itself does not support Kerry,they made that fact crystal clear about a month ago in one of their Sunday papers.

Not too mention the guy with 1st letter is from Exeter,N.H. which is about a 40 mins from where I am......Think he's a little biased living in Kerry country??
So first you say that the location of this paper doesn't matter, and then you saw that the army officer is biased because he lives in "Kerry country"? Make up yer mind, man.
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