Another "How to properly growl..." thread. - Page 54

Toxicvoid · December 21st, 2009, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In The Blood

as everyone said before: mess around

i used saliva at first but realised it were wrong so i tryed to tightend my throat and then after a while i got a kinda nice sound, so i started to practice to push air instead of straining my throat.
it worked so far

Yeah I was confused about the saliva thingy too in the beginning. I'm actually now trying to find out how I make a proper distorted sound w/o hurting myself.
Every way I found out to distort it either hurts or sounds like a depressed baby bear.

GutgoreRipper · January 7th, 2010, 03:21 PM

Here I covered Pray for Forgivness-Suffocation
comment if u wish :P

You Tube

Toxicvoid · January 7th, 2010, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GutgoreRipper

Here I covered Pray for Forgivness-Suffocation
comment if u wish :P

Well I think it's really good.

How the hell do you get that necrophagist sound :P

Belac · January 8th, 2010, 01:07 AM

If you want an honest opinion from one of the old participants of this thread, your vocals need a lot of work. You seem to kind of have an understanding but you need to push more from the diaphragm. Seriously they are too weak, you're clearly not putting any effort into them (not refering to how you were all relaxed lol. I hide videos when I first listen since the visual experience affects the audio perception a bit.) Not enough power if you had planned to record them or play live. At least not that well.

Not intentionally being an asshole, I just tell it as straight forward as possible. The whole point is to get an honest opinion after all

Next time you record try knocking the bass down a notch lol. It distorts the whole video including the full range of your voice.

GutgoreRipper · January 9th, 2010, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belac

If you want an honest opinion from one of the old participants of this thread, your vocals need a lot of work. You seem to kind of have an understanding but you need to push more from the diaphragm. Seriously they are too weak, you're clearly not putting any effort into them (not refering to how you were all relaxed lol. I hide videos when I first listen since the visual experience affects the audio perception a bit.) Not enough power if you had planned to record them or play live. At least not that well.

Not intentionally being an asshole, I just tell it as straight forward as possible. The whole point is to get an honest opinion after all

Next time you record try knocking the bass down a notch lol. It distorts the whole video including the full range of your voice.

I Appreciate your honest opinion.
And I know what u mean by that, so will work to get it better!
ty bro

GutgoreRipper · January 9th, 2010, 10:56 AM

Btw. U guys know where i can find more Death Metal vocal backing tracks?
That one from above was found on Suffocation's cd, and couldn't find anythin' else.
If som1 could help, I would be pleased :P

DarkGift · January 9th, 2010, 11:00 AM

nile have 2 instrumental tracks (papyrus... and as he creates, so he destroys) on their ithyphallic digipack edition and limited edition

failure_of_threads · January 10th, 2010, 10:39 PM

fffuuuuu i've been wanting to do growls forever...

i do a lot of choir singing and choral work and i know how to properly sing which helps from what i've heard, but ive always puttered around with growling and can never get it....i shit bricks everytime i hear that one scream ( you all know it) in cancer of the soul, or whenever i listen to christian alvestam or mikael. i don't expect to be as good as that anytime soon but i just want to be able to do it...same deal with my best friend but like two years ago he figured it out and now he kicks ass at it...i can SOMETIMES get a really crappy one that sounds ok, but it's not loud at all, i just don't get how to project it or use the diaphragm to make noise, it's just like a shitty whisper....gahhhh

i usually do exercises and drink water and warm up before i try but still even after all that its crap and i don't see much progress.

GutgoreRipper · January 11th, 2010, 04:23 PM

Seems to me like you are using just your stomach.
Add a throat in it, othwrwise it sounds like a whisper.

failure_of_threads · January 11th, 2010, 11:12 PM

fucking a i just dont understand how to add my throat in it to make it louder......

Belac · January 17th, 2010, 07:38 PM

You don't need to add "throat" to make it louder. Most of my growl comes from the chest/diaphragm area.

I shouldn't even be posting this since its old and it almost feels redundant (posted the full cover here a couple years ago), but just to give a short example of how it comes out for me I'll throw a sample on here. Plus some of you new guys might want to hear it *shrugs shoulders*, not much else to post around here at the moment. My buddy did the light stuff at the beginning, I was the growler. Mostly mid range stuff nothing too deep here

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/...0vocals%21.mp3

stabbed.!!! · January 18th, 2010, 04:32 AM

well i am just making normal voice as growl for perfect growl
some people say "your voice should be inherited and normal voice should be like growl from birth my friend is having like growl voice (actually his having multiple vocals by birth) but he hates metals and want to sing like classicals

Necare · January 23rd, 2010, 03:37 PM

Hi,

I have a question about growling...
A few days ago I started growling again, I know how to not hurt my throat and so I was practising about 2 - 3 hours without any pain but also without any good results.Today I practised again, and after about an half hour - 45 minutes I finally got it the way I wanted it...but then I took a small break to play some guitar ( half hour or so ) and when I started growling after that small break, I lost it again ( well not entirely, I could go deeper and higher but it just didnt sound exactly the way I wanted it to, how it sounded before the small break )
I used to be in a band and I had the same thing every rehearsel, after an hour of just trying to growl my growls were pretty nice but in the beginning of the growling it just plain sucks...

Now, I was wondering if there is a way to get my growls good without having to try growling for a half hour - hour ?
When you growl in a beginning band, you can't afford to have to "warmup" for such a long time because when you go on stage, you will only have a half hour setlist...

Thanks in advance for the help

DarkGift · January 24th, 2010, 07:45 AM

you can try to do basic warm up exercises. i sometimes (should do this all the time really

) sing a bit, stretch my neck and tounge/"air kiss".
eating a hot meal before helps, and of course, drinking water in between the singing/growling. having a warmed up body is good as well.

theoden236 · February 5th, 2010, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkGift

you can try to do basic warm up exercises. i sometimes (should do this all the time really

) sing a bit, stretch my neck and tounge/"air kiss".
eating a hot meal before helps, and of course, drinking water in between the singing/growling. having a warmed up body is good as well.

I wonder if drinking coffee helps?

DarkGift · February 6th, 2010, 08:59 AM

anything hot basically, although i think hot tea is better, water doesn't dry up your throat

stefan86 · February 6th, 2010, 09:04 AM

drink alcohol

theoden236 · February 7th, 2010, 05:51 PM

Some J.D perhaps?

GutgoreRipper · February 18th, 2010, 03:59 PM

I made another cap, hope this one is better ;P

You Tube

January 8th, 2010, 01:07 AM	#1329 (permalink)
Belac Flesh To Steel Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Windsor, Canada Posts: 831	If you want an honest opinion from one of the old participants of this thread, your vocals need a lot of work. You seem to kind of have an understanding but you need to push more from the diaphragm. Seriously they are too weak, you're clearly not putting any effort into them (not refering to how you were all relaxed lol. I hide videos when I first listen since the visual experience affects the audio perception a bit.) Not enough power if you had planned to record them or play live. At least not that well. Not intentionally being an asshole, I just tell it as straight forward as possible. The whole point is to get an honest opinion after all Next time you record try knocking the bass down a notch lol. It distorts the whole video including the full range of your voice. __________________ Nature is satan's church Last edited by Belac : January 8th, 2010 at 01:11 AM.

January 9th, 2010, 11:00 AM	#1332 (permalink)
DarkGift ov doom Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 6,677	nile have 2 instrumental tracks (papyrus... and as he creates, so he destroys) on their ithyphallic digipack edition and limited edition __________________ my åsome band: http://www.myspace.com/desolatorswe

January 17th, 2010, 07:38 PM	#1336 (permalink)
Belac Flesh To Steel Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Windsor, Canada Posts: 831	You don't need to add "throat" to make it louder. Most of my growl comes from the chest/diaphragm area. I shouldn't even be posting this since its old and it almost feels redundant (posted the full cover here a couple years ago), but just to give a short example of how it comes out for me I'll throw a sample on here. Plus some of you new guys might want to hear it shrugs shoulders, not much else to post around here at the moment. My buddy did the light stuff at the beginning, I was the growler. Mostly mid range stuff nothing too deep here http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/...0vocals%21.mp3 __________________ Nature is satan's church Last edited by Belac : January 17th, 2010 at 10:13 PM.

January 24th, 2010, 07:45 AM	#1339 (permalink)
DarkGift ov doom Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 6,677	you can try to do basic warm up exercises. i sometimes (should do this all the time really ) sing a bit, stretch my neck and tounge/"air kiss". eating a hot meal before helps, and of course, drinking water in between the singing/growling. having a warmed up body is good as well. __________________ my åsome band: http://www.myspace.com/desolatorswe

February 6th, 2010, 08:59 AM	#1341 (permalink)
DarkGift ov doom Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 6,677	anything hot basically, although i think hot tea is better, water doesn't dry up your throat __________________ my åsome band: http://www.myspace.com/desolatorswe

January 9th, 2010, 10:56 AM	#1331 (permalink)
GutgoreRipper Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 13	Btw. U guys know where i can find more Death Metal vocal backing tracks? That one from above was found on Suffocation's cd, and couldn't find anythin' else. If som1 could help, I would be pleased :P

January 11th, 2010, 04:23 PM	#1334 (permalink)
GutgoreRipper Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 13	Seems to me like you are using just your stomach. Add a throat in it, othwrwise it sounds like a whisper.

January 18th, 2010, 04:32 AM	#1337 (permalink)
stabbed.!!! a pro headbanger NEO Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: metaltown, india Posts: 4	well i am just making normal voice as growl for perfect growl some people say "your voice should be inherited and normal voice should be like growl from birth my friend is having like growl voice (actually his having multiple vocals by birth) but he hates metals and want to sing like classicals

January 23rd, 2010, 03:37 PM	#1338 (permalink)
Necare Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3	Hi, I have a question about growling... A few days ago I started growling again, I know how to not hurt my throat and so I was practising about 2 - 3 hours without any pain but also without any good results.Today I practised again, and after about an half hour - 45 minutes I finally got it the way I wanted it...but then I took a small break to play some guitar ( half hour or so ) and when I started growling after that small break, I lost it again ( well not entirely, I could go deeper and higher but it just didnt sound exactly the way I wanted it to, how it sounded before the small break ) I used to be in a band and I had the same thing every rehearsel, after an hour of just trying to growl my growls were pretty nice but in the beginning of the growling it just plain sucks... Now, I was wondering if there is a way to get my growls good without having to try growling for a half hour - hour ? When you growl in a beginning band, you can't afford to have to "warmup" for such a long time because when you go on stage, you will only have a half hour setlist... Thanks in advance for the help

February 6th, 2010, 09:04 AM	#1342 (permalink)
stefan86 invariably off-topic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 27,080	drink alcohol __________________ my åsome band: www.myspace.com/desolatorswe

February 7th, 2010, 05:51 PM	#1343 (permalink)
theoden236 Trollwanderer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: somwhere in the middle of nowhere Posts: 105	Some J.D perhaps? __________________ ".....and that is why I killed myself, chopped myself up, then threw myself away." my one-man extreme metal projet: www.myspace.com/darcroven