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Garm (Kristoffer Rygg) 8 16.00%
ICS Vortex (Simen Hestnaes) 24 48.00%
Vintersorg (Andreas Hedlund) 18 36.00%
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Old May 31st, 2009, 11:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Your favourite Borknagar vocalist

Choose which is your favourite vocalist from Borknagar!

My pick: Andreas Hedlund, without a doubt.
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Garm, Mr. V a close second.
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Best Borknagar Vocalist

See, Same thread but my comment above matches up pretty much with the poll results!
Ah damn, I was pretty sure that this had never being done before. Feel free to delete/lock this thread Mr.Mods. If not well, great .

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Old June 1st, 2009, 01:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I vote for Vortex
Vintersorg close second
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Ah damn, I was pretty sure that this had never being done before. Feel free to delete/lock this thread Mr.Mods. If not well, great .

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Hahahaha! El tema es bastante antiguo y aunque recordaba que existía, no recordaba haberlo hecho yo mismo xD.

Anyway, there are new people around, so maybe this thread won't be completely useless.
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Hahahaha! El tema es bastante antiguo y aunque recordaba que existía, no recordaba haberlo hecho yo mismo xD.

Anyway, there are new people around, so maybe this thread won't be completely useless.
Jajaja OK, don't worry XD .

Hurrah so we keep the thread !

Ohhhhh Vortex is winning but Mr.V is quite close! Tough competition, indeed!
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Poor Garm

I know! D:
What's so wrong with him? I think he was great...
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Meh, in Borknagar... | ... but overall, when stacked up against Mr. V and Vintersorg I don't think he can really hold his ground.
I always thought that Mr V was Vintersorg!! all what I believed on these years are lies!!

On a serious note, I agree. Garm is the best with Arcturus and Ulver; with Borknagar he did a great job, giving an old viking vibe to the albums, but not so great as ICS and Mr V on the Clean vocal side IMO; the best grim vocals still belongs to Garm.
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with my vote andreas is in first place now (second to me is garm)
i really cannot understand why so many people likes so much vortex' voice. i really can't stand to it.
it seems to me one of the voices with ugliest tone colour i've ever heard...and also a bit out of tune....

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In fact I like all Borknagar vocalist
but I love the songs who sings Vortex :P
but all vocalist are really good...
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I always thought that Mr V was Vintersorg!! all what I believed on these years are lies!!

On a serious note, I agree. Garm is the best with Arcturus and Ulver; with Borknagar he did a great job, giving an old viking vibe to the albums, but not so great as ICS and Mr V on the Clean vocal side IMO; the best grim vocals still belongs to Garm.
First of all, Mr.V is Vintersorg! The Archaic Con is wrong.

And I completely agree with you! Garm gives this "old-rough" vibe to the band, and he's definitely better off in Arcturus (RIP) and Ulver.

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with my vote andreas is in first place now (second to me is garm)
i really cannot understand why so many people likes so much vortex' voice. i really can't stand to it.
it seems to me one of the voices with ugliest tone colour i've ever heard...and also a bit out of tune....

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Thank you, now Mr.V and Vortex are tied! Hurrah! Well I think Vortex is a great vocalist, you can hate him as much as you want, it's your loss . On the other hand… vaffanculo!







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In fact I like all Borknagar vocalist
but I love the songs who sings Vortex :P
but all vocalist are really good...
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with my vote andreas is in first place now (second to me is garm)
i really cannot understand why so many people likes so much vortex' voice. i really can't stand to it.
it seems to me one of the voices with ugliest tone colour i've ever heard...and also a bit out of tune....

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On Borknagar he did a great job IMO, specially on TAC (and of course Colossus), the same in Arcturus...but on Dimmu he sounds too way overproduced. I know they try to makes him sound very epic but sometimes sounds bad (like on The Invaluable Darkness).

Also I prefer the Garm's work on Arcturus over Vortex's work on Arcturus and Borknagar. If the 'current' Garm would sing on Borknagar, I would prefer him over Vortex anytime. Also I think Garm is more balanced as a black metal singer for Bork than Andreas and Simen, but I prefer the Mr V's clean vocal work better.
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Uhm, my vote goes to Andreas. Although I'm a Ulver fan, as well as a Vintersorg fan, Andreas suits much better for Borknagar to me. Anyway I would love to hear the "today's" Garm in Borknagar.
Well, as for Vortex... I found his voice really charismatic and great, though I still prefer the two mentioned above.
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with my vote andreas is in first place now (second to me is garm)
i really cannot understand why so many people likes so much vortex' voice. i really can't stand to it.
it seems to me one of the voices with ugliest tone colour i've ever heard...and also a bit out of tune....

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It's not that I don't like his voice... I liked (note the ed) it when he was in Borknagar, but when he went to Arcturus and Dimmu Borgir, it's just not as good. He's become commercialized and his vocals over produced
His tone with Borknagar was his best ever. Now he might as well give up it seems, the way he sounds with Dimmu Borgir just sounds too much a like a pop singer or something D:

His voice has changed, just listen to Colossus and then any Dimmu Borgir or Arcturus song with him... And tell me that it is not a bit different in timbre, not as epic sounding. Rather, it sounds weaker, and even a bit whiny...
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at the beginning i supposed i was the only one who thinks that simen gets out of tune. i've studied piano and cello so i'm quite used to intonation, but i'm not infallible.
so i asked to a friend of mine who studied singing at the conservatory (but has also studied non-lyrical singing, and has worked as a singer in musicals) telling her to give me a neutral and professional opinion about clean vocals, and she said she doesn't like his timber too (her words were "very irritating timber"), and that he has also problems in intonation....
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As far as Garm in concerned, I think he is only a studio musician so I wouldn't call him 'the best rounded' member, as the only live videos I've seen of him from Ulver were atrocious. Besides, I might concede and say Garm was the best 'black metal' singer, but I would rather see Vortex sing non-metal anyways, like Opera, Acoustic and Folk.
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although i like vortex the best overall, i give it to garm due to olden domain being my favorite Borknagar album, but this is a super tough choice because all 3 are among my favorite vocalists.
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The video is not good to compare them. At all.

About the video:

Garm songs? sure, but he slays Simen and Mr V together, on both grim and clean vocals on those songs. He did it on studio, so...it's not fair.

On the other hand, I prefer 2nd to Mr V, he is more true to his vocals and at the same time respects a little more the original vocal lines, butchered by Simen (at least on The Dawn Of The End, where he's awful). Also Mr V's grim vocals actually sound black metal, while Simen is more on the death metal growling range.

-- o --

I think there's no right way to compare them, cause all has different vocal tones, techniques, range (Garm - very deep baritone vocals /later with extended range towards tenor, Vintersorg -less deep, more versatile baritone w/some extended range to tenor, Simen deep tenor, strong on high, very weak on low notes), and more important, totally different styles.

While I think the only way to measure them as singers is just our personal opinion, I think it's more fair to choose 2 or 3 Borknagar songs from each guy where their vocals shine the most and "try" to make an "objective" analysis.

As an example why I prefer Andreas over Vortex and Garm I'll mention 3 songs, one per album:

1- Inherit the Earth. I love the choirs that Andreas does a lot more than Simen and Garm's ones. He sounds very epic on this one, specially on the "Past, present and future" part of the song.

2- Cycled. Mr V is the guy who brought emotion to Borknagar's vocals. His grim vocals are awesome, and his clean ones are really versatile. Soft spoken, low singing, high pitched chorus, he does everything! where he shine the most is on the sentence "The boulder rolls heavily - is it in vain?"...it gives me chills every time I hear it.

3-Grains. My favourite song from Origin. Mr V really put his heart into singing (and Lars is marvellous too, as we can hear on White, my 2nd choice of the album). I dunno how this can sound, but that song sometimes - on a certain mood - touches me badly, more than a lot of doom metal/ambient stuff.

a 4th track worth of mention would be Gods Of My World.

Anyway, the 3 guys are incredible and Borknagar maybe is the band with the best vocals on their career as a whole.

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My Fav Simen songs are Colossus, Oceans Rise and Winter Millenium (Universal as a 4th choice).

My fav Garm songs are The Eye of Oden, The Winterway and The Dawn Of The End (Vintervredets Sjelesagn as my 4th choice).
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My Fav Simen songs are Colossus, Oceans Rise and Winter Millenium (Universal as a 4th choice).
Actually my choice is influenced by those songs, who are my favourites of Borknagar
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