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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:15 PM   #2601 (permalink)
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I have a question to anyone that can answer it, but it's directed to Epi or warheart, since they seem to get a good tone while recording.

I'm trying to get a good tone while recording, but i sound somewhat sucky. I'm plugging it into my amp and from the line to my soundcard, i'm also using a Boss metal zone pedal, which sounds really good when i just use it with my amp, but plugged into the soundcard i just don't get a good tone.

I've tried using the inbuilt modifiers in Cubase, like overdrive, but it only makes the sound fuzzy and worse than before.

So i tried it with guitar rig 2, but i only get a really bad buzz and a long delay.

I'm using a Tascam US 122L soundcard.
Well I've heard the Metal Zone is a piece of shit but if it's the only pedal you have, then it'll have to do since you need some kind of overdrive in the chain.

If you say it sounds good through your amp though, why don't you try putting the wire from your amp into your computer but still having the pedal plugged in too.

Gtr -> Pedal -> Amp -> Computer

Obviously, you'll need an extra lead but I'm sure it's not too much trouble to obtain one from somewhere.

I use a Korg PX4 and that's the sound you're hearing on my Sinergy solo and Paul Gilbert cover and I've always used that with the exception of that Line 6 Spider II thing so I don't actually know how a pedal sounds in this situation. I do have a BOSS DS-1 upstairs but I've never tried using it for recording but it might just be your pedal. Your amp is making it sound better but when it's going straight into the pc, it's the natural sound that it creates so yeah, try the chain that I wrote out.

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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:29 PM   #2602 (permalink)
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Again, some misunderstanding my bad though.

I've been playing with the exact thing you said, meaning Guitar -> Pedal -> Amp -> Comp. I get a decent tone out of it, but i sound kinda week, meaning you can hear that it's been recorded in a sucky home studio, and i was thinking if you guys use some kind of modulation in the recording programs, because i think that's what's needed.

I'm using a Boss MT-2 though, so it's not the same as yours.

I've heard the same about my pedal, but i've tried some different pedals, and this one actually fulfills my needs and i do get the tone i want (when i only plug it into the amp).
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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:38 PM   #2603 (permalink)
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hey guys,
i'm searching for the tab of the downfall intro which CoB played on the Chaos Ridden Years DVD. the intro which has Epi already recorded ( http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~eelaure/...n%20Years).mp3 ). it would be great if someone could tab this part (both guitars maybe )out. i'm a newbie so i dont have this experience to do that well :\

i would be veeery thankfull. (and sry for my bad english, i'm german ^^ =\ )

greetings -> markus :]
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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:48 PM   #2604 (permalink)
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Again, some misunderstanding my bad though.

I've been playing with the exact thing you said, meaning Guitar -> Pedal -> Amp -> Comp. I get a decent tone out of it, but i sound kinda week, meaning you can hear that it's been recorded in a sucky home studio, and i was thinking if you guys use some kind of modulation in the recording programs, because i think that's what's needed.

I'm using a Boss MT-2 though, so it's not the same as yours.

I've heard the same about my pedal, but i've tried some different pedals, and this one actually fulfills my needs and i do get the tone i want (when i only plug it into the amp).
Well there's not much you can do. Either it sounds shit or it doesn't. Maybe you should try EQing your amp/pedal a bit better and then use the EQ in the program that you're using.

Also, I don't know if you're double/triple/quadruple tracking but you should be. It makes anything sound MUCH better. Take your gain down to about 5 and record 3/4 tracks and pan around, much better than just one track in the centre with the gain on 10.

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hey guys,
i'm searching for the tab of the downfall intro which CoB played on the Chaos Ridden Years DVD. the intro which has Epi already recorded ( http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~eelaure/...n%20Years).mp3 ). it would be great if someone could tab this part (both guitars maybe )out. i'm a newbie so i dont have this experience to do that well :\

i would be veeery thankfull. (and sry for my bad english, i'm german ^^ =\ )

greetings -> markus :]
Look in the first post please.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 02:02 PM   #2605 (permalink)
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Well there's not much you can do. Either it sounds shit or it doesn't. Maybe you should try EQing your amp/pedal a bit better and then use the EQ in the program that you're using.

Also, I don't know if you're double/triple/quadruple tracking but you should be. It makes anything sound MUCH better. Take your gain down to about 5 and record 3/4 tracks and pan around, much better than just one track in the centre with the gain on 10.


I rememberd that i have a V-amp, so i tried it out, and the sound is alot better, apart from some stuff, but i think i could fix it. Thanks anyways.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 02:14 PM   #2606 (permalink)
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How the hell can you just forget that you have a V-amp and then have all these problems with a shitty pedal...

Even though I think V-amps are pretty crappy too, it's definitely better than a stompbox.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 03:06 PM   #2607 (permalink)
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Haha well, a friend borrowed me it some months ago, and i've only been playing for 8 months now, so when using it for just playing through the amp, the pedal is deffinetly better.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:10 PM   #2608 (permalink)
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Also, I don't know if you're double/triple/quadruple tracking but you should be. It makes anything sound MUCH better. Take your gain down to about 5 and record 3/4 tracks and pan around, much better than just one track in the centre with the gain on 10.
Really? Becuase when I record, I have the gain fully up. So if I were to record something with the gain turned somewhat down, and then copy the recording and put it into different tracks, but have it all the same, and mess with panning it around, it'll sound better?
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:33 PM   #2609 (permalink)
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Really? Becuase when I record, I have the gain fully up. So if I were to record something with the gain turned somewhat down, and then copy the recording and put it into different tracks, but have it all the same, and mess with panning it around, it'll sound better?
Well yeah, turn down your gain but do not copy and paste.

It's hard to explain until you've experienced it tbh.

If you're going to record 2 tracks, pan them both at about 80% left and right.

If you're going to record 3 tracks, have 2 at about 80% and one in the centre (0%).

I usually do 2-5 depending on current tone and how thick I want it to sound.

I won't go into detail yet, just give it a try. Gain on about 7 and 2 tracks at 80%, you'll be suprised how much better it sounds.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:46 PM   #2610 (permalink)
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Well yeah, turn down your gain but do not copy and paste.

It's hard to explain until you've experienced it tbh.

If you're going to record 2 tracks, pan them both at about 80% left and right.

If you're going to record 3 tracks, have 2 at about 80% and one in the centre (0%).

I usually do 2-5 depending on current tone and how thick I want it to sound.

I won't go into detail yet, just give it a try. Gain on about 7 and 2 tracks at 80%, you'll be suprised how much better it sounds.

Alright, Ill try that sometime this weekend when I have time, thanks.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 06:32 PM   #2611 (permalink)