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Old June 18th, 2009, 08:02 AM   #26 (permalink)
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As a musician, Alexi. As a sole guitar player, I don't know, you'd have to ask them for analyzis. Both have their own strengths in guitar techniques I guess.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 02:26 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I can't say, I need to hear Roope sing

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Old June 18th, 2009, 02:30 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I didn't say that. There are a bunch of members here who can. And it doesn't make you less cool if you're not a virtuoso, could just tell you've been finger at something else with your time.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 04:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Roope, awesome and thight rhythm guitarist.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 05:48 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I mean c'mon were are comparing 2 guys here who have significant differences is contribution to our favourite band. Alexi has done more so we have more reason to say Alexi.
Actually, if you want to look at it that way, Roope was a huge influence for Alexi and many other inspiring guitarists, and indirectly has done 'more' for CoB (which is not everyone's favorite band by the way) and (Finnish) metal all around than Alexi has.
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Old June 19th, 2009, 07:10 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Actually, if you want to look at it that way, Roope was a huge influence for Alexi and many other inspiring guitarists, and indirectly has done 'more' for CoB (which is not everyone's favorite band by the way) and (Finnish) metal all around than Alexi has.
Touche. But how much WILL Alexi inspire guitarists worldwide? Alexi is younger and still has A LOT of stuff to do. In the end he will probably have done more for Metal all together. I love COB, my favourite band. I wonder what Alexi would be like if Roope wasn't around. Either way im still saying Alexi
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Old June 19th, 2009, 07:46 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Good point. I do also think that Alexis influences are much bigger than Roopes nowadays. Look at allt he Alexi wannabes on YouTube or in this forum.

But to answer the question: Both got the same guitar skills but I wouldn't say ALexi or Roope is better but Alexi is a great songwriter and his solos are definitely better than Roopes. So all in all Alexi is definitely better but both got the same guitar skills
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Old June 19th, 2009, 11:29 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Why bother having this thread in the first place?

Both are amazing artists in their own way, but they are not comparable.
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That's it. This thread had no point from the start, and resurrecting it when it was already dead was pointless too. Stone rocks, COB rocks, Roope influenced Alexi, Alexi influences many people, they have really similar styles. How do you decide, in a fair way, who's better? You can't.
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Old June 20th, 2009, 12:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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That's it. This thread had no point from the start, and resurrecting it when it was already dead was pointless too. Stone rocks, COB rocks, Roope influenced Alexi, Alexi influences many people, they have really similar styles. How do you decide, in a fair way, who's better? You can't.
If Stone would make a new album, would Roope be influenced by Alexi and Stone influenced by Bodom?

And damn you Jose, I was counting on you to continue this pointless argument that has been done already multiple times. I like to follow these threads, good entertainment .
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Old June 21st, 2009, 07:26 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Roope is calm person. So we cant say something exactly about his truly abilities. But i think he is awesome
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Good point. I do also think that Alexis influences are much bigger than Roopes nowadays. Look at allt he Alexi wannabes on YouTube or in this forum.
I think Grandfather must receive more respect than father, because he influenced to father and he is longer in life than father, he have more experience.
Roope also good guy, supports cob for a long time. Also i like his job in last Sinergy album. (shadow island ftw)
They've got chemistry when they are together. Its wrong to compare them. Alexi's solos more Pop (popular, more people can feel it without long listening metal music), Roope's solos more Heavy (brutal), they are good together, and they are equally talanted in their style. Its only depends on your taste

What about me? If Roope would leave cob, i wont listen it anymore. Cob will lose important part.

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If Stone would make a new album, would Roope be influenced by Alexi and Stone influenced by Bodom?

And damn you Jose, I was counting on you to continue this pointless argument that has been done already multiple times. I like to follow these threads, good entertainment .
First part, don't really know, would have to listen to the album first, although with Janne singing I don't think something can sound like Bodom, it's too different from Alexi.

Second part, I'm sorry I'm an Alexi fanboi, but I'm not blind, and you have to be quite biased or use those weak kinda irrational arguments (like "he plays worse but has more feel" or "has done more for the metal world" or "his songs are more famous") to say Alexi is over Roope or the other way round imho. As you say, it's pointless to argue. You can have a favourite, but you can't claim it's the best
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Old June 28th, 2009, 04:19 PM   #39 (permalink)
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When comparing the talent of the two you can't use the Roope from Bodom. Sure he has a couple solos but it doesn't show what he can really do/play. I like Roope's solos better,in my opinion they are more creative and have a bit more emotion. I'm not saying that Alexi doesn't have that I'm just saying Roope has more of it. Take Sinergy for example both of them have great solo work in that band.Both of them are equally good on rythm guitar I think,they can play rythm like a futher mucker! But I've found Alexi's solos nowadays to be bit bland. Roope on the other hand wrote a crazy solo for Amon Amarth. Alexi's talent/ability/emotion can be heard in early bodom and same for Roope except with Stone/Latvala Bros./ etc.
To summarize I like Roope's style a bit better than Alexi's but they both have great styles I don't mind listenting to either of them.
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Old June 28th, 2009, 07:23 PM   #40 (permalink)
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About the solo thing... When I listen to the ETID, Warheart and Downfall, TLAOD from Tokyo Warhearts solos from COB; ISOYG, Midnight Madness and Razorblade Salvation from Sinergy; Downright Dominate from Annihilator... seriously... Roopes solo are really good but those solos I've mentioned are definitely in a higher league
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Old June 28th, 2009, 08:57 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Well, they have a pretty similar style, but I think Alexi works more on his solos. This shows specially in live playing, where, like it or not, he's tighter, and I'm not comparing Alexi's work with Roope's small spot on BFH, but Roope all around. Sure he's real tight too, they both are, but even in the albums I feel like Alexi works more on them. E.g. Roope's sometimes have things that it's hard to tell where it's going, like he threw the scale/sweep/whatever in and sounds cool but that he wouldn't remember exactly what he played if you asked him to do it again, while Alexi's don't. I do know that when Stone recorded their albums was another time and that Stone never got the studio time Bodom gets, but you can see that in some Sinergy solos, it's what helps me more to know who is Roope and who is Alexi.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 04:44 AM   #42 (permalink)
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It's easy to tell who plays which solo in Sinergy cause Alexi plays nearly all major solos while Roope's playing minor stuff (Like in ISOYG or MM). I think that I can play partly better solos in some songs than Roope (e.g. Roopes Solo in ISOYG is nothing really good).
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I'm sorry but I think you went waaay to over the top with that Sure, you may like Alexi's solos better, but Roope's are great too, and the guy has definitely almost or as much chops as Alexi.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 02:01 PM   #44 (permalink)
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No no, I know that he's a way better guitarist tehn I am but I also think that you don't have to be much creative to make such solos like the one in ISOYG... but to be honest: I'm sure I can make better solos for a lot of songs and that has nothing to do with arrogance or so. You just have to listen to Mitch and Alex'S solos in their songs and forum jams. I like them all more then most of Roopes solos... so what I've heard from Roope's solos and compare them with what I've heard from Mitch or Alex and Alexi I would say Roope: 4 Mitch, ALex, me 5/6, Alexi 10

Edit: OK, I think Roope can be as creative as Alexi and some of his solos are great (IYWPPFW, a few Sinergy songs)but he don't show it in most of his solos....
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Old June 29th, 2009, 03:31 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Id say Roope is and was better, Alexi claims that himself, calling him the "best finnish metal guitarist of all time".
In the 90's Alexi used to rock, but he had a period where he simply sucked ass (after AYDY, when he was always "sick" when he played stuff for DvD's and such, especially Wacken 08), but nowadays he kicks ass again.
Roope is a way more reliable Oldschool guy who simply rocks at the guitar, and he is atleast always able to play his own stuff.
But as I said, dont go nuts on me, Alexi has gotten better again and everything seems alright.

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^About Alexi calling him the best finnish metal guitarist of all time, even if Alexi thinks it (which we can't KNOW) it's not really true. As much as I prefer Roope or Alexi over him, e.g. Jari from Wintersun, as a guitarplayer, pretty much kicks their asses (talking about guitarplaying skill, which is the only objective thing). About reliability, sure Alexi had his "not so good time", but it did follow a series of injuries and he did get back in shape (take last European tour as example, where his playing was pretty much flawless). And then Roope, well, let's say that his BFH live solo isn't the tightest solo on earth. Not discrediting Roope, I do like the guy and wouldn't say any of them is better.

@Arcane: Although I really like Mitch's and Alex's solos and your Kantry song (which btw is the only thing I've heard of you that it's not cover, you should post something more man, that one rocked!), I think Roope's job on solos both in Sinergy and Stone and the few he's done in Bodom (BFH one e.g. rocks imho) are pretty good and creative. Still like Alexi more or some particular solos by Mitch or Alex, but it's easier to be creative when you just have to be creative for one spot, and Roope has recorded a lot of solos during his career.
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Jari kicks besaically everyones ass, hes out of the decision
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Jari pretty much rapes everyone musically now days. The first time I heard battle against time i went

He also has incredible tone, such as in Beyond The Dark Sun.

Honestly the competition between Roope and Alexi is just dumb though.
The solo in Twilight of The Thunder God Has been better than any solo alexi has put out in the past few years in my opinion, but that doesn't mean Roope is suddenly a better guitarist. Kissing The Shadows still to this day is one of my favorite songs of all time (it sucks they won't play it live, but I'm not even going into that considering how sloppy it was in seoul).

Both of them have wrote great music and every musician has there weak areas. It's how they use what they are good at to make music (actual music, not "sports-shredding") that really counts, and I think both of them have done enough to where this competition makes no sense.
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Yeah, you're right. This thread makes no sense. Most say Alexi, a lot Roope, the rest you can't compare them. I have to agree that Jari is definitely better than both but I also have to say that I have never heard a solo which is better than Alexis solo in Downright Dominate (playing, tone) . Neither any of Jaris solos nor Roopes Amon Amarth solo.

About KTS... I thought they've played KTS during one of their last shows (Rock Hard Festival)?
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It's easy to tell who plays which solo in Sinergy cause Alexi plays nearly all major solos while Roope's playing minor stuff (Like in ISOYG or MM). I think that I can play partly better solos in some songs than Roope (e.g. Roopes Solo in ISOYG is nothing really good).
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