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TheKid · October 29th, 2009, 11:20 AM

so are unshaven arabs who want to behead you

Brutal Hate · October 29th, 2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by vitorias123

Nationalism is a dangerous thing.

How's that?

From my perspective, there is nothing dangerous in it. Well maybe it doesn't support equality of humans, but I don't believe to that stuff.

Delanoir · October 29th, 2009, 12:30 PM

I don't see anything wrong with being proud of one's heritage and ancestry/history, and wanting to protect it and its culture, in their very own country.

Brutal Hate · October 29th, 2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Delanoir

I don't see anything wrong with being proud of one's heritage and ancestry/history, and wanting to protect it and its culture, in their very own country.

That's what I meant. Some people tend to see nationalism as Hitler World Tour vol.2. For me, it's just respecting my country and so on.

After World wars nationalism was demonized and that gave it negative meaning. Which is understandable in days of globalization like these.

Delanoir · October 29th, 2009, 12:37 PM

Right, I was just agreeing with you, and perhaps elaborating a bit on what I thought you meant.

Ensi · October 29th, 2009, 12:46 PM

What I hate the most is that all of these muslims and nigras, pull out the race card every opportunity they get.

They come here, get free stay, free money, the jails are like 5 star hotels here.. And they don't follow the law or try to implement themselves to our rules at all. And when they do get in trouble, they call it racism.

FFFFFFUUUUU

Brutal Hate · October 29th, 2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Delanoir

Right, I was just agreeing with you, and perhaps elaborating a bit on what I thought you meant.

Yeah, I got your point.

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Originally Posted by Ensi

And when they do get in trouble, they call it racism.

Muffin · October 29th, 2009, 01:46 PM

Ensi · October 29th, 2009, 01:47 PM

^Saved

TheKid · October 29th, 2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ensi

What I hate the most is that all of these muslims and nigras, pull out the race card every opportunity they get.

They come here, get free stay, free money, the jails are like 5 star hotels here.. And they don't follow the law or try to implement themselves to our rules at all. And when they do get in trouble, they call it racism.

FFFFFFUUUUU

I ABIDE BY THE LAW

SHARIA LAW, THAT IS

Muffin · October 29th, 2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKid

I ABIDE BY THE LAW

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Originally Posted by TheKid

SHARIA LAW, THAT IS

Ensi · October 29th, 2009, 02:04 PM

Nerve · October 29th, 2009, 02:08 PM

I have the strong feeling that everyone here mixes up immigration and islam.

What about Italian, Polish, Romanian, Spanish immigration ?

TheKid · October 29th, 2009, 02:09 PM

loooots of polish people here

EddyRX10 · October 29th, 2009, 02:53 PM

Watching Never Mind the Buzzcocks

Brutal Hate · October 29th, 2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerve

I have the strong feeling that everyone here mixes up immigration and islam.

Well most of the immigrants who come here are muslims and therefore the problem is in islam too. It's part of their culture.

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Originally Posted by Nerve

What about Italian, Polish, Romanian, Spanish immigration ?

I don't think here isn't much immigrants from those countries. Except Romania, we have some gypsy minority

So allmighty Nerve, what do you think about immigration? I guess you stand for it, cus we all know that you love EU and multiculturalism so much. :P

Nerve · October 29th, 2009, 03:26 PM

That's not the point, idiot

I'd like to answer something correct and though, but I'll do it another time. I don't feel like writing shitloads of text right now.

Brutal Hate · October 29th, 2009, 03:38 PM

I don't get it.

Immigration is fine thing as long as it doesn't grow to massive thing and all the people who come should go to work or study. I don't see no sense in this "richness of multiculturalism" which is force-feeded to all the people.

Immigrants (mostly) don't want integrate to the culture, so they gather together and start some ghetto areas, where no normal citizen dares to move at evening. We don't need those things. Immigrants should be spread to many areas all over the country, not just to capital cities (like Helsinki, Stockholm, Oslo).

Also, many immigrant who comes as refugee, should return to their own country, if they commit crimes and if the situation is getting better in their homeland. Surprisingly, this rarely happens.

Nerve · October 29th, 2009, 03:59 PM

I understand your point, and I'm definitely not into communotarism, that's the shittiest idea ever. But you know, it's sometimes hard to integrate a culture you don't understand. Exemple : I want to live in Japan. I finally do it, get a job and a house there, eveything. I don't want anyone to fuck with me because I eat some occidental food instead of their filthy raw fish. See ? I'd integrate the law and certainly a good part of the culture, but I'm sure I'll eat occidental, have occidental furniture, read french books, watch french movies, and if I ever meet a French dude in Kyoto, I don't want people to say I'm not integrated because I talk to him.

So IMO everything is a matter of degree. But it's way more complicated than this.

And your last point is somehow hard to apply : imagine a Serbian guy who arrives in Sweden at the age of 4 or 5. When he'll be 50, which do you think will be his country ? Do you think he'll consider Serbia as HIS country, since he eventually never went to it ? Could he get back to it, after spending his whole life in Sweden ?

snowy · October 29th, 2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerve

I understand your point, and I'm definitely not into communotarism, that's the shittiest idea ever. But you know, it's sometimes hard to integrate a culture you don't understand. Exemple : I want to live in Japan. I finally do it, get a job and a house there, eveything. I don't want anyone to fuck with me because I eat some occidental food instead of their filthy raw fish. See ? I'd integrate the law and certainly a good part of the culture, but I'm sure I'll eat occidental, have occidental furniture, read french books, watch french movies, and if I ever meet a French dude in Kyoto, I don't want people to say I'm not integrated because I talk to him.

forget it!

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Originally Posted by Brutal Hate

Immigrants (mostly) don't want integrate to the culture, so they gather together and start some ghetto areas, where no normal citizen dares to move at evening.

The French Ghetto in Japan is were you'll live

Nerve · October 29th, 2009, 04:10 PM

I'm not even sure there's a french ghetto in Japan, but still

Brutal Hate · October 29th, 2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerve

I understand your point, and I'm definitely not into communotarism, that's the shittiest idea ever. But you know, it's sometimes hard to integrate a culture you don't understand. Exemple : I want to live in Japan. I finally do it, get a job and a house there, eveything. I don't want anyone to fuck with me because I eat some occidental food instead of their filthy raw fish. See ? I'd integrate the law and certainly a good part of the culture, but I'm sure I'll eat occidental, have occidental furniture, read french books, watch french movies, and if I ever meet a French dude in Kyoto, I don't want people to say I'm not integrated because I talk to him.

I'm not saying that you should totally forget your past and customs. Immigrants own culture is acceptable as long as it doesn't harm other people and as long as it doesn't try become dominant, which is an outcome from mass immigration. So, if immigrants don't try to root their own culture to the country, then it's good.

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Originally Posted by Nerve

And your last point is somehow hard to apply : imagine a Serbian guy who arrives in Sweden at the age of 4 or 5. When he'll be 50, which do you think will be his country ? Do you think he'll consider Serbia as HIS country, since he eventually never went to it ? Could he get back to it, after spending his whole life in Sweden ?

Why would that child live in Sweden for 45 years? Shouldn't he move back with his parents as soon as possible? Of course, if we consider that he would live so long in Sweden, so then it might he his new home. But mainly I meant grown-up immigrants who come as refugees, because of war for example. When the war is over, they should move back, at least most of them.

And if immigrant makes some crimes, he should definitely forced to move back to his original country. Immigrants are lazy.

But yeah, this matter is complicated especially for children. All I'm saying is that I don't see any sense in this EU immigration policy.

snowy · October 29th, 2009, 04:33 PM

^
but what about foreign food? Only eating traditional German food would be horrible

Brutal Hate · October 29th, 2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by snowy

^
but what about foreign food? Only eating traditional German food would be horrible

Don't know about that.

Doesn't Germany have big immigration problem too?

snowy · October 29th, 2009, 04:53 PM

don't know about that, I don't have any problems with immigrants here.

October 29th, 2009, 12:46 PM	#9131 (permalink)
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October 29th, 2009, 02:08 PM	#9138 (permalink)
Nerve Record Collector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Great Cold Distance Posts: 3,998	I have the strong feeling that everyone here mixes up immigration and islam. What about Italian, Polish, Romanian, Spanish immigration ? __________________ -- Arriving somewhere, but not here -- "Music is not product, music is not software, music is not content. (...) It's fucking art. I've always loved the idea of the album as the equivalent of a novel, or a great film. You wouldn't pick up a novel and read chapter 6 and then read chapter 1 and then read chapter 13; you wouldn't rent a DVD and watch the middle of the movie before you watch the beginning." - Steven Wilson

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October 29th, 2009, 12:30 PM	#9128 (permalink)
Delanoir Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,150	I don't see anything wrong with being proud of one's heritage and ancestry/history, and wanting to protect it and its culture, in their very own country.

October 29th, 2009, 12:37 PM	#9130 (permalink)
Delanoir Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,150	Right, I was just agreeing with you, and perhaps elaborating a bit on what I thought you meant.

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October 29th, 2009, 03:26 PM	#9142 (permalink)
Nerve Record Collector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Great Cold Distance Posts: 3,998	That's not the point, idiot I'd like to answer something correct and though, but I'll do it another time. I don't feel like writing shitloads of text right now. __________________ -- Arriving somewhere, but not here -- "Music is not product, music is not software, music is not content. (...) It's fucking art. I've always loved the idea of the album as the equivalent of a novel, or a great film. You wouldn't pick up a novel and read chapter 6 and then read chapter 1 and then read chapter 13; you wouldn't rent a DVD and watch the middle of the movie before you watch the beginning." - Steven Wilson

October 29th, 2009, 03:38 PM	#9143 (permalink)
Brutal Hate Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele! Posts: 1,285	I don't get it. Immigration is fine thing as long as it doesn't grow to massive thing and all the people who come should go to work or study. I don't see no sense in this "richness of multiculturalism" which is force-feeded to all the people. Immigrants (mostly) don't want integrate to the culture, so they gather together and start some ghetto areas, where no normal citizen dares to move at evening. We don't need those things. Immigrants should be spread to many areas all over the country, not just to capital cities (like Helsinki, Stockholm, Oslo). Also, many immigrant who comes as refugee, should return to their own country, if they commit crimes and if the situation is getting better in their homeland. Surprisingly, this rarely happens. __________________ "I am not a human. This is just a dream and soon I will awake. It was too cold and my blood was frozen all the time" Last edited by Brutal Hate : October 29th, 2009 at 03:41 PM.

October 29th, 2009, 03:59 PM	#9144 (permalink)
Nerve Record Collector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Great Cold Distance Posts: 3,998	I understand your point, and I'm definitely not into communotarism, that's the shittiest idea ever. But you know, it's sometimes hard to integrate a culture you don't understand. Exemple : I want to live in Japan. I finally do it, get a job and a house there, eveything. I don't want anyone to fuck with me because I eat some occidental food instead of their filthy raw fish. See ? I'd integrate the law and certainly a good part of the culture, but I'm sure I'll eat occidental, have occidental furniture, read french books, watch french movies, and if I ever meet a French dude in Kyoto, I don't want people to say I'm not integrated because I talk to him. So IMO everything is a matter of degree. But it's way more complicated than this. And your last point is somehow hard to apply : imagine a Serbian guy who arrives in Sweden at the age of 4 or 5. When he'll be 50, which do you think will be his country ? Do you think he'll consider Serbia as HIS country, since he eventually never went to it ? Could he get back to it, after spending his whole life in Sweden ? __________________ -- Arriving somewhere, but not here -- "Music is not product, music is not software, music is not content. (...) It's fucking art. I've always loved the idea of the album as the equivalent of a novel, or a great film. You wouldn't pick up a novel and read chapter 6 and then read chapter 1 and then read chapter 13; you wouldn't rent a DVD and watch the middle of the movie before you watch the beginning." - Steven Wilson

October 29th, 2009, 04:10 PM	#9146 (permalink)
Nerve Record Collector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Great Cold Distance Posts: 3,998	I'm not even sure there's a french ghetto in Japan, but still __________________ -- Arriving somewhere, but not here -- "Music is not product, music is not software, music is not content. (...) It's fucking art. I've always loved the idea of the album as the equivalent of a novel, or a great film. You wouldn't pick up a novel and read chapter 6 and then read chapter 1 and then read chapter 13; you wouldn't rent a DVD and watch the middle of the movie before you watch the beginning." - Steven Wilson

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