Lunar Strain Versus Skydancer

InsArtTure · August 31st, 2006, 03:03 AM

First of all-sorry if there is already a thread like this.

So, I wanted to make a discussion about it. I want to compare the two debut albums. Frankly said I prefer you to be objective. Give your arguments about which album is better-musically. It is easy to say which your favourite is

Now-I think Lunar Strain deserves more compliments. Don't get me wrong. I love Skydancer more than anything in music. Nevertheless, LS has some advantages before SD.

First of all-Stanne sings there-and it is clear that he does his vocal duties better.
The whole production of LS is more professional and well made. The sound of the distorted guitars, the drums, the vocals and of course the acoustic guitars,the violin,cello..... Here comes the other thing. LS has its impressive variety. Different instruments combined by different methods-folk melodies-A LOT OF folk melodies.

Hargalaten! Hell, this track is killing. It transforms me into Scandinavian and I am not

Skydancer has its personal values for me but it is not any good as Lunar Strain.

If something else comes to my mind, I will write again. Until then, I am eager to see what you think.

La Rocque · August 31st, 2006, 03:16 AM

I'm not a fan of IF music

Nt3N · August 31st, 2006, 04:27 AM

First of all, both albums are two masterpieces of the goteborg sound, so respect for both.

Musically speaking, surely Lunar Strain is more catchy, more easy listening, while imho Skydancer is much more death-metal style, so harder to listen to and to understand.

Lunar Strain vocals are of course much better as Anders is way below Mikael!

King Chaos · August 31st, 2006, 10:17 AM

Lunar strain has more concise songs and reflects less of the past and more of the future of Melodic deathmetal... But Skydancer introduces the true complexity of deathmetal to melodic metal which is more monumental than simply making melodic metal that's a little more extreme than Iron Maiden (which is what inflames did). In a similar way to at the gates, Dark Tranquillity discovered brand new untouched and holy land with the ever changing progressive, agressive but emotional melodic element.

plintus · August 31st, 2006, 10:36 AM

Which color is better - harvest or 17?

Dresses+sneakers are owned by skirts+highheels, for sure, but while talking about an album, it's production, cover, music after all... it's always up to one to choose. Like choice made will make any difference to the others or make a brakthrough in the stock market.

But may be this will: I prefer Lunar Strain.

incendo · September 3rd, 2006, 03:36 AM

Each of the albums have the values to be considered as better than the other. So it would be a tie up to me; until hearing Mikael's voice! I go with Lunar Strain.

Connacht · September 6th, 2006, 12:19 PM

Lunar Strain is more raw than Skydancer, and it sounds too like "let's follow the other bands", Skydancer instead has got more personality and innovation for the sub-genre in those first years of the '90s. And I dislike Mikael's voice on Lunar Strain (REALLY better after this album).
If I should rate them:

Lunar Strain 6.5/7
Skydancer 7.5

MindMatters · October 28th, 2006, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InsArtTure

Hargalaten! Hell, this track is killing.

What does Hårgalåten even mean?
hår = hair
låten = song

Or does it mean anything at all?

Anyway, I think Lunar Strain is maybe better than Skydancer. It has those sentimental instrumentals, Stannes voice, Behind Space (my personal favourite), good melodies and beautiful acoustic pieces. Skydancer is more experimental album which is a good thing.

TheFourthHorseman · October 28th, 2006, 09:17 PM

Skydancer is simply better music.

Still, Lunar Strain is very good too. Behind Space, Lunar Strain, Everlost (part II) and Hargalaten are very good, just not anywhere near the greatness of Shadow Duet or Crimson Winds, or many other songs on Skydancer.

hibernal_dream · October 29th, 2006, 07:01 AM

I'd go with Skydancer personally. It gets better with repeated listens, while Lunar Strain doesn't really improve.

Delirious · October 30th, 2006, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindMatters

What does Hårgalåten even mean?
hår = hair
låten = song

Or does it mean anything at all?

hårga is a village in sweden where, according to a folk tale, the devil disguised as a fiddler spellbound people and literally made them dance until they died.

you can find parts of the song in lefay's hårga as well.

edit: the word in itself doesn't mean anything.

IntoPhagist · November 4th, 2006, 03:28 AM

lunar strain is alot better i think, even though skydancer is still fucking awesome, i just always lean towards more in flames.....

FearTheReaper · November 4th, 2006, 05:33 PM

Hey im gonna use this thread to get an answer to my question,on the re release of skydancer is anders frieden on it or did mikeal stanne redo the vocals? I just bought the minds I and skydancer is the only one i dont have,this could decide wether i have to settle on the re release or if i have to pull some theeth and order it some how.

RampageSword · November 4th, 2006, 05:39 PM

It's Anders.

FearTheReaper · November 4th, 2006, 07:32 PM

thanx

August 31st, 2006, 03:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
InsArtTure Agiel Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sofia,Bulgaria Posts: 73	Lunar Strain Versus Skydancer First of all-sorry if there is already a thread like this. So, I wanted to make a discussion about it. I want to compare the two debut albums. Frankly said I prefer you to be objective. Give your arguments about which album is better-musically. It is easy to say which your favourite is Now-I think Lunar Strain deserves more compliments. Don't get me wrong. I love Skydancer more than anything in music. Nevertheless, LS has some advantages before SD. First of all-Stanne sings there-and it is clear that he does his vocal duties better. The whole production of LS is more professional and well made. The sound of the distorted guitars, the drums, the vocals and of course the acoustic guitars,the violin,cello..... Here comes the other thing. LS has its impressive variety. Different instruments combined by different methods-folk melodies-A LOT OF folk melodies. Hargalaten! Hell, this track is killing. It transforms me into Scandinavian and I am not Skydancer has its personal values for me but it is not any good as Lunar Strain. If something else comes to my mind, I will write again. Until then, I am eager to see what you think. Last edited by InsArtTure : August 31st, 2006 at 03:06 AM.

August 31st, 2006, 03:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
La Rocque I am that I am Join Date: May 2004 Location: doing time in the universal mind Posts: 4,598	I'm not a fan of IF music __________________ so she tells me ... it was like I was so smart that I was stupid I think she meant that even though I would say something that to me made perfect sense, a lot of times, people had no idea what I was talking about the line between the most brilliant genius on earth and the biggest fucking moron is who can tell them apart?

August 31st, 2006, 04:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
Nt3N Dark Tranquillity Italia Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mestre (Venice) Posts: 1,466	First of all, both albums are two masterpieces of the goteborg sound, so respect for both. Musically speaking, surely Lunar Strain is more catchy, more easy listening, while imho Skydancer is much more death-metal style, so harder to listen to and to understand. Lunar Strain vocals are of course much better as Anders is way below Mikael! __________________ Dark Tranquillity Italia email: nt3n [at] darkillity [dot] net myspace: myspace.com/dtitalia

August 31st, 2006, 10:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
King Chaos Pomeo Osoponeor Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chronosynclasticinfundibulum Posts: 4,581	Lunar strain has more concise songs and reflects less of the past and more of the future of Melodic deathmetal... But Skydancer introduces the true complexity of deathmetal to melodic metal which is more monumental than simply making melodic metal that's a little more extreme than Iron Maiden (which is what inflames did). In a similar way to at the gates, Dark Tranquillity discovered brand new untouched and holy land with the ever changing progressive, agressive but emotional melodic element. __________________ snow vids the Final Journey of the Seer!

September 6th, 2006, 12:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
Connacht O' scugnizzo scarrafone Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 47	Lunar Strain is more raw than Skydancer, and it sounds too like "let's follow the other bands", Skydancer instead has got more personality and innovation for the sub-genre in those first years of the '90s. And I dislike Mikael's voice on Lunar Strain (REALLY better after this album). If I should rate them: Lunar Strain 6.5/7 Skydancer 7.5 __________________ You're an island of tranquillity in a sea of chaos. "Nothing to fear. Nothing to doubt." "Need us to smile too? Alright." "Wandering stars, for whom it is reserved, the blackness of darkness forever."

September 3rd, 2006, 03:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
incendo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: istanbul Posts: 481	Each of the albums have the values to be considered as better than the other. So it would be a tie up to me; until hearing Mikael's voice! I go with Lunar Strain.

October 28th, 2006, 09:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
TheFourthHorseman In The Twilight World Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 4,901	Skydancer is simply better music. Still, Lunar Strain is very good too. Behind Space, Lunar Strain, Everlost (part II) and Hargalaten are very good, just not anywhere near the greatness of Shadow Duet or Crimson Winds, or many other songs on Skydancer.

October 29th, 2006, 07:01 AM	#10 (permalink)
hibernal_dream A Mind Forever Voyaging Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Grave with a view Posts: 4,128	I'd go with Skydancer personally. It gets better with repeated listens, while Lunar Strain doesn't really improve.

November 4th, 2006, 03:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
IntoPhagist FloriiiiiiiooooooOOO! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York City and Around Posts: 2,000	lunar strain is alot better i think, even though skydancer is still fucking awesome, i just always lean towards more in flames..... __________________ Hello there!

November 4th, 2006, 05:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
FearTheReaper Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Buffalo, N.Y. Posts: 861	Hey im gonna use this thread to get an answer to my question,on the re release of skydancer is anders frieden on it or did mikeal stanne redo the vocals? I just bought the minds I and skydancer is the only one i dont have,this could decide wether i have to settle on the re release or if i have to pull some theeth and order it some how. __________________ "Your words, Echoing deep in my mind Fearing the hurt of things to come You dwell in the days left behind"

November 4th, 2006, 05:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
RampageSword AWARE! BEWARE! WAR! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,952	It's Anders. __________________ Morality is temporary, wisdom is permanent.

November 4th, 2006, 07:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
FearTheReaper Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Buffalo, N.Y. Posts: 861	thanx __________________ "Your words, Echoing deep in my mind Fearing the hurt of things to come You dwell in the days left behind"