BFD2

[PostMortem1666]

BFD2 is finally out in case anyone does not know. I already placed my order for it and I will let everyone know how it sounds as soon as I get it here. I love the idea of the built in sequencer/groove editor.

http://fxpansion.com/index.php?page=53

[Let it burn...]

those samples sound nice and surprisingly real. I may have to check this out

[Necromancer197666]

I'm not sure if I should go BFD2 or DFHS2.0.

Or maybe just the new slate 2 pack when that comes out.

[Torniojaws]

I'm getting the impression that DFHS 2.0 will be a pop/rock set, and not so much a metal set like DFHS was?

[006]

Unless it was multi-sampled with left *and* right hand/foot hits, it won't be worth it to go for BFD over DFHS/DFHS2.

Just to clarify...what are "metal drums"? I know I have a preference in what a drummer "should" use, and I know what I've worked with in the past with the best/easiest results, but I didn't know there were actually drums made just for metal. Because I was under the impression that really any drumset could work for any type of music, tune them correctly, put the proper heads on them, and a drummer that knows how to use them, and sizes of the drums permitting, any drumset (theoretically) could work for metal. With sample replacement, and production techniques, I don't see a problem. I know there are drumsets that are *typically* used for metal, brands, sizes, etc. But nobody sells their drums as "3L173 M374L DRUMZ", they may have a suggestion for what they geared a particular set for (jazz, rock, etc.), but it's never definitive and it's *never* absolute. I have heard clips of people using the same exact kit in DFHS for jazz, metal, rock, blues, country, and pop...it sounded good for all of those styles. The same kit. It's all in how you use the kit.

Sorry, I just had that thought when I read your post, Tornio.

~e.a

[PostMortem1666]

all I know is BFD2 is EXTREMELY detailed. the hi-hat has up to 11 different articulations. there is an inside and an outside kick mic with snare rattle or without. 3 sets of ambience mics: overheads, mid-side pattern room mics, and 2 ambience mics high up in the room. the snare has an extra half-edge hit along with rim, sidestick, drag, and a normal hit. you can change the volume of each individual articulation. you can change how much of each ambience channel are on each drum. its AMAZING. I am very excited. I have heard the built-in effects aren't bad either.

[Torniojaws]

Sorry, I just had that thought when I read your post, Tornio.

I'm talking about drum machines/VSTi's, not real drumkits that you can tune yourself. You don't have that privilege with drum machines with pre-made samples.

Take for example Addictive Drums. Even with *extreme* EQing and all, it still sounds too soft for harder metal. There's only so much you can do if the source sample by nature doesn't have "it". One of the biggest problems in it is the cymbals/overheads. You really can't properly replace them with samples.

That's what I'm pondering about DFHS 2.0, especially since - quote from DFHS 2.0 description at Toontrack - "Pat Thrall, Neil Dorfsman and Nir Z have between them over the past three decades worked with artists as diverse as Meatloaf, Celine Dion, Nick Lachey, Sting, Bruce Springsteen, Dire Straits, Beyonce, Björk, Kiss, Joss Stone, Genesis, John Mayer and Chris Cornell." - none of them really strike as extreme or metal. That's what made me think.

[PostMortem1666]

my copy of bfd2 arrives later today so I will give my first impressions and maybe post some clips tonight!

[PostMortem1666]

wow. its way better than i thought. you can import your own samples and link them to kit pieces so your sample will be triggered anytime the drum that its linked to is hit. no more aptrigga!!!. i love almost all the snares from bfd2.the cymbals and the dw toms sound bad ass. i definetely recommend this to everyone. clips comin soon.

[53Crëw]

Any update on this? Any clips?

I'm debating between trying to find a copy of DFHS and BFD2.

Cheers.

[TheDude]

You can't really compare DFHS with BFD2, but DFHS2 is coming soon. I'd wait a little longer before I'd make my decision, but on the other hand, I'm not really objective since I know the Toontrack guys

[Metaltastic]

Do you guys know how much DFHS2 is gonna be?

[PostMortem1666]

dfhs2 is only 350 compared to 399 for bfd2. lemme do a quick mix of these drums im doing for a cover of 5 minutes alone by pantera and ill post it up on here.

[PostMortem1666]

http://sneapforum.kazrog.com/PostMor...hort%20mix.wav

theres a very short mix. it took about 30 minutes but that should give you an idea. the ambience on the snare is completely from the set of ambient mics in bfd2.

[006]

Not impressed at all...I will check out other demos though.

~e.a

[006]

Lol...actually the only demo that has even slightly impressed me was the "Hey_Liverpool" clip on the FXPansion site.

~e.a

[bensnookes]

Not bad

[PostMortem1666]

well alright...personally i like it more than dfhs. but every man to their own opinion! ill probably buy dfhs2 later when it comes out too so ill have even more drum sounds available.

[53Crëw]

Do you find BFD2 easy to work with? I guess it has its own built in sequencer? (I don't know too much about it.)

Since DFHS is discontinued, it's hard to find.....

Cheers.

[PostMortem1666]

i personally am obsessed with bfd2. its 100 times better than bfd 1.5. the only thing i dont like about it is the built in fx. they are ok. id rather just export my drums to one of the 16 mono outputs or 8 stereo outputs and use my plugins.