What reamp boxes are there on the market?

ahjteam · December 29th, 2008, 03:14 AM

Am I missing something?

John Cunniberti Reamp (the original, see patent) www.reamp.com
Radial Reamp JCR: http://www.radialeng.com/re-jcrreamp.htm
Radial X-Amp: http://www.radialeng.com/di-xamp.htm
Radial ProRMP: http://www.radialeng.com/re-prormp.htm
Radial JD7: http://www.radialeng.com/di-jd7.htm
Radial SGI: http://www.radialeng.com/re-sgi.htm
Radial JX44: http://www.radialeng.com/re-jx44.htm
Little Labs RedEye: http://www.littlelabs.com/redeye.html
Little Labs Multi Z PIP: http://www.littlelabs.com/pip.html
Millenia TD-1 (this seems pretty hardcore): http://www.mil-media.com/td-1.html
Creation Audio Labs MW1: http://www.creationaudiolabs.com/mw1studiotool/
Palmer DACCAPO: http://www.palmer-germany.com/127-1-daccapo.html
Avid Eleven Rack: http://www.avid.com/US/products/Eleven-Rack
Pro Co Sound RA1: http://www.procosound.com/products/catalog/show/48
NF Audio RA10: http://www.nfaudio.com/shop/ra10

Schematics from Jensen Transformers site for DIY-reamp box:
JT-11P-1 Balanced Line Level to Unbalanced Guitar Level (9KB PDF)

edit: Metaltastic <3

aramism · December 29th, 2008, 03:19 AM

that millenia is what NASA uses to reamp

Ermz · December 29th, 2008, 03:22 AM

Holy... that Millenia unit looks almost perfect. It even has a power soak for direct amp recording. It's essentially one unit that has everything I've been buying over the last few months in-built. If only I'd known!

ahjteam · December 29th, 2008, 03:23 AM

oh yeah, and then there is this option: http://www.recordingmag.com/resource...etail/314.html

xFkx · December 29th, 2008, 03:29 AM

My compact soundcraft mixer used in reverse works as a reamp box

I guess that doesn't count

Metaltastic · December 29th, 2008, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aramism

that millenia is what NASA uses to reamp

Hahahahaahahahha, seriously

And Ahjteam, way to totally butcher the spelling of ProRMP!

Jesse Z · December 29th, 2008, 10:51 AM

Creation Audio Labs MW-1

Mulder · December 29th, 2008, 10:52 AM

I use this for recording guitars:

http://www.till.com/articles/PreampCable/

Works great, very simple to build. Every guitar you hook up becomes active.

Omega_Void · December 29th, 2008, 11:13 AM

A thought occurs - couldn't you just solder e.g. a 24k resistor across a cable's jack plug? Plug that end into your amp and the load on the DAW's output would be 24k in parallel with Zin of the amp or pedal you're feeding. That would typically be 1Meg or 470k, so total Zin would be slightly more than the 22k minimum most line-outs are rated for.

Perhaps someone could spot a problem with this I haven't thought of?

Only question I can think of would be whether the device you're feeding cares what impedance it sees upstream. AFAIK tubes wouldn't care - after all the valve grid passes practically no current anyway, it only cares what voltage it sees. Same would go for FETs. BJTs might be different. But they suck anyway

Edit: No, actually scratch that idea - there would be local feedback from the cathode to the grid via the cathode resistor and the grid resistor (which sets the Zin). Shunting the grid resistor to a lower value would inrease the NFB resulting in a reduction of gain and less of those nice tube-y non-linearities. Bugger. Oh well...

jauernis · December 29th, 2008, 12:11 PM

http://www.creationaudiolabs.com/MW1.html

Michael Wagener's Creation...looks pretty sweet. Anyone experience this yet? Wonder if the quality blows the red eye reamping and DI out of the water?

ahjteam · December 29th, 2008, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metaltastic

Hahahahaahahahha, seriously

And Ahjteam, way to totally butcher the spelling of ProRMP!

fixed, my love

Melodeath · December 29th, 2008, 01:27 PM

Holy crap the Millenia looks amazing. I wonder fi it can work as a passive DI/reamp as well haha.

I see no price either

Metaltastic · December 29th, 2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melodeath

I see no price either

TRUST ME - you don't wanna know

But if you dare...

Metaltastic · December 29th, 2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahjteam

fixed, my love

Thanks baby

Melodeath · December 29th, 2008, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metaltastic

TRUST ME - you don't wanna know

But if you dare...

LOOOOL

dreams = crushed

Metaltastic · December 29th, 2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melodeath

LOOOOL

dreams = crushed

Hahahaha, indeed - Millennia doesn't fuck around!

Jesse Z · December 29th, 2008, 02:18 PM

You can't go wrong with the Redeye. I love mine. I prefer passive because I like transformers.

J.DavisNJ · December 29th, 2008, 02:19 PM

Man, I want the RedEye!! Would it work well with passive and active pickups?

-Joe

Jesse Z · December 29th, 2008, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.DavisNJ

Man, I want the RedEye!! Would it work well with passive and active pickups?

Yep. I use it with everything from EMG to single-coil equipped guitars.

J.DavisNJ · December 29th, 2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse Z

Yep. I use it with everything from EMG to single-coil equipped guitars.

Thanks man!

-Joe

ahjteam · December 29th, 2008, 02:42 PM

btw, I am still puzzled why Behringer hasn't made a reamp box. But I was pretty amazed that Line6 PodXT Pro has pretty clearly labeled "ANALOG REAMPING INPUT/OUTPUT", but I guess it is only for the pod, not any other amps:

http://line6.com/podxtpro/photogallery.html

Omega_Void · December 31st, 2008, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega_Void

Edit: No, actually scratch that idea

In fact, no - reinstate that idea. Brushed up on my valve info - local NFB occurs directly between the grid and cathode inside the tube. Shunting the input resistor wouldn't affect it at all. So I will (tentatively, since I haven't tried it yet) add to the list of reamp gear available... 1 resistor. Can be had for about 15p. Some soldering required, but will correct the impedance mismatch between low-Z line-out and Hi-Z amp input without the noise issues of an active device and without the expense of a good transformer-based unit.

Is there an experienced EE in the house? I've gotta be overlooking something. Surely...

ahjteam · January 1st, 2009, 10:36 AM

I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but I got this in mail just a few days ago (forgot to check my mail)...

Quote:

Dear Anssi Tenhunen,

We have not heard of the development of a reamping device from our developers. We will take you message as a a suggestion and forward it. Thank you very much. We appreciate all suggestions and new ideas are always welcome :-)

We hope that we have been able to help you with this information.

Best regards,

Your BEHRINGER Customer Support Team

This feedback is about:
http://behringer-en.custhelp.com/cgi...php?p_faqid=18.

Are you planning to do a reamping device?

So if you see a Behringer reamping device by 2011, blame it on me

Metaltastic · January 1st, 2009, 11:23 AM

NOOOOOO, you've created a monster!!

John_C · January 1st, 2009, 11:56 AM

http://www.jensen-transformers.com/as/as092.pdf

it does seem that the only thing necessary is the variable resistor at the end..........

December 29th, 2008, 03:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virrat/Helsinki, Finland Posts: 9,353	What reamp boxes are there on the market? Am I missing something? John Cunniberti Reamp (the original, see patent) www.reamp.com Radial Reamp JCR: http://www.radialeng.com/re-jcrreamp.htm Radial X-Amp: http://www.radialeng.com/di-xamp.htm Radial ProRMP: http://www.radialeng.com/re-prormp.htm Radial JD7: http://www.radialeng.com/di-jd7.htm Radial SGI: http://www.radialeng.com/re-sgi.htm Radial JX44: http://www.radialeng.com/re-jx44.htm Little Labs RedEye: http://www.littlelabs.com/redeye.html Little Labs Multi Z PIP: http://www.littlelabs.com/pip.html Millenia TD-1 (this seems pretty hardcore): http://www.mil-media.com/td-1.html Creation Audio Labs MW1: http://www.creationaudiolabs.com/mw1studiotool/ Palmer DACCAPO: http://www.palmer-germany.com/127-1-daccapo.html Avid Eleven Rack: http://www.avid.com/US/products/Eleven-Rack Pro Co Sound RA1: http://www.procosound.com/products/catalog/show/48 NF Audio RA10: http://www.nfaudio.com/shop/ra10 Schematics from Jensen Transformers site for DIY-reamp box: JT-11P-1 Balanced Line Level to Unbalanced Guitar Level (9KB PDF) edit: Metaltastic <3 Last edited by ahjteam : August 4th, 2011 at 05:12 AM.

December 29th, 2008, 03:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ermz Ma baws ist Krieg Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 19,433	Holy... that Millenia unit looks almost perfect. It even has a power soak for direct amp recording. It's essentially one unit that has everything I've been buying over the last few months in-built. If only I'd known! __________________ www.systematicproductions.com > Twitter > Facebook

December 29th, 2008, 11:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
Omega_Void Your Eventual Destroyer Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 466	A thought occurs - couldn't you just solder e.g. a 24k resistor across a cable's jack plug? Plug that end into your amp and the load on the DAW's output would be 24k in parallel with Zin of the amp or pedal you're feeding. That would typically be 1Meg or 470k, so total Zin would be slightly more than the 22k minimum most line-outs are rated for. Perhaps someone could spot a problem with this I haven't thought of? Only question I can think of would be whether the device you're feeding cares what impedance it sees upstream. AFAIK tubes wouldn't care - after all the valve grid passes practically no current anyway, it only cares what voltage it sees. Same would go for FETs. BJTs might be different. But they suck anyway Edit: No, actually scratch that idea - there would be local feedback from the cathode to the grid via the cathode resistor and the grid resistor (which sets the Zin). Shunting the grid resistor to a lower value would inrease the NFB resulting in a reduction of gain and less of those nice tube-y non-linearities. Bugger. Oh well... __________________ ++ There's a difference between pushing the envelope and just being stupid, but it's not one I'm prepared to worry about ++ Last edited by Omega_Void : December 29th, 2008 at 11:34 AM.

December 29th, 2008, 12:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
jauernis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Frisco, CA Posts: 793	http://www.creationaudiolabs.com/MW1.html Michael Wagener's Creation...looks pretty sweet. Anyone experience this yet? Wonder if the quality blows the red eye reamping and DI out of the water? Last edited by jauernis : December 29th, 2008 at 12:17 PM.

December 29th, 2008, 01:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
Melodeath Moonbow Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,805	Holy crap the Millenia looks amazing. I wonder fi it can work as a passive DI/reamp as well haha. I see no price either __________________ Old School Death Metal - http://www.myspace.com/horrendousdeathmetal

December 29th, 2008, 03:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
aramism Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,422	that millenia is what NASA uses to reamp

December 29th, 2008, 03:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virrat/Helsinki, Finland Posts: 9,353	oh yeah, and then there is this option: http://www.recordingmag.com/resource...etail/314.html

December 29th, 2008, 03:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
xFkx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 1,596	My compact soundcraft mixer used in reverse works as a reamp box I guess that doesn't count

December 29th, 2008, 10:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jesse Z Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 122	Creation Audio Labs MW-1

December 29th, 2008, 10:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mulder Blacksmith Apprentice Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Yurp Posts: 387	I use this for recording guitars: http://www.till.com/articles/PreampCable/ Works great, very simple to build. Every guitar you hook up becomes active.

December 29th, 2008, 02:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jesse Z Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 122	You can't go wrong with the Redeye. I love mine. I prefer passive because I like transformers.

December 29th, 2008, 02:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
J.DavisNJ \m/ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NJ, U.S.A. Posts: 3,381	Man, I want the RedEye!! Would it work well with passive and active pickups? -Joe

December 29th, 2008, 02:42 PM	#21 (permalink)
ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virrat/Helsinki, Finland Posts: 9,353	btw, I am still puzzled why Behringer hasn't made a reamp box. But I was pretty amazed that Line6 PodXT Pro has pretty clearly labeled "ANALOG REAMPING INPUT/OUTPUT", but I guess it is only for the pod, not any other amps: http://line6.com/podxtpro/photogallery.html

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January 1st, 2009, 11:56 AM	#25 (permalink)
John_C formerly Skeksis268 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Leamington Spa, UK Posts: 3,250	http://www.jensen-transformers.com/as/as092.pdf it does seem that the only thing necessary is the variable resistor at the end..........