what is with new guitar sound?

jessealberts · March 5th, 2006, 12:49 AM

I am in sheer terror oer the release of this album. Evergrey is far and away the best metal band to ever exist. But what the hell is with this new guitar sound? It sounds like an american nu-metal band, infact it really sounds like nevermore. This is what made evergrey so great was thier sound! no one could touch it. The guitars were so low you couldent even replcate it, trust me I tried. And now this, it sounds like they are trying to hit top 40. Ahhhhhhh I am so frustrated, why does every band have to suck eventually? We already lost arch enemy this year, now evergrey? Take a page from in flames new cd go towards the old not the new, Thomas even had a part in that cd he should know this!! Please guys go reproduce it! I thought you were the untouchable band.......i guess not.

Empty Vision · March 5th, 2006, 04:08 AM

Guitar sound - You get used to it, it works for the album.
Arch Enemy - Well really Arch Enemy went down the crapper when Angela joined the band, even though Wages Of Sin is a fantastic album. Anthems and Dommsday Machine are both very flawed albums.
In Flames - The new album is crap, they havnt returned to form at all, sure they made things a little faster and made the guitar harmonies a little more present, but overall this album is a poor excuse to get big whilst still holding some credibilityin the underground metal scene. People may hate the stuff on RtR and STYE but at least it sounds honest, CC sounds forced and predictable, this is the first IF album that i havnt enjoyed listening to, Evergrey's new album blows CC out of the water.

coolsnow7 · March 5th, 2006, 09:50 AM

Yeah, so first of all Nevermore is NOT a nu-metal band, second of all as far as I'm concerned they're as good as Evergrey. And if all you liked Evergrey for was their sound, then you've been missing out on a lot of music. Lastly, it's not that different.

jessealberts · March 5th, 2006, 12:22 PM

No I dont think never more is nu-metal but depinding on the speed evergrey is now sounding like a mix of the both. The fact is the now hardly sound like a prog metal band, it sounds more like nevermore or some version of it. If Iron Maiden started playing in drop C people would go wooh......what the hell right? Im sorry they have went from really fast to slower, to slow. Now it was a good slow but im sorry this is unacceptable. They were the one band that I thought got it. Arch enemy, in flames, soilwork are just a few of the bands from that same area that over time began to become more americanized, either for money/fame or for other reason, and in turn began to suck. I dont want my favorite band to go down that road im sorry. You let this crap slide then in 3 years there making an evergrey version of 'stabbing the drama'.

BlindPanzer · March 5th, 2006, 03:38 PM

you just gotta get used to it, you judt don't like it right now because its not the same evergrey sound you are used to. Once you get used to it you'll see how far it is from nu-metal, musically and lyrically.

EternalMetal · March 5th, 2006, 10:33 PM

I definitely hear the Nevermore influences, and more than once too. But this is not a sellout album at all, I think it is really good.

And Come Clarity is a pretty good album, I enjoy it a lot. I dont think its forced, I think its what they wanted to do. they wanted to incorporate heavier elements into their newer sound, and I think they did it. I just dont like the singing in some parts, a little over the top. He is a really bad singer with a cool voice. If only he used it in the right way.

XONE · March 6th, 2006, 12:25 AM

I love the new guitar tone!!!
I believe that the new tone is either due to new Gear (Amp Heads),
Henrik's side project with Jonas,
or too much "In Flames" around the studio.

The lyrics and feel is still totally Tom.
Still In The Water- lyrics are KILLER!!!!

"...I just thought she was asleep..."

And I love the low Harmonized "AAAHHH".
This is going to be the longest month waiting for this new CD!!!!

Now if they would just bring their show to Los Angeles....

ihave27frets · March 6th, 2006, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XONE

I love the new guitar tone!!!
I believe that the new tone is either due to new Gear (Amp Heads),
Henrik's side project with Jonas,
or too much "In Flames" around the studio.

The lyrics and feel is still totally Tom.
Still In The Water- lyrics are KILLER!!!!

"...I just thought she was asleep..."

And I love the low Harmonized "AAAHHH".
This is going to be the longest month waiting for this new CD!!!!

Now if they would just bring their show to Los Angeles....

What amps are they using now?

CampinCarl · March 6th, 2006, 06:23 PM

I don't think In Flames sold out, so much as went screamo. Seen the video for one of the songs (can't remember the title; nor do I want to)? Had a bunch of people trying to commit suicide.--Lemme elaborate a little more. Their sound sounds like some of the screamo bands some of my friends listen to. In fact, I showed them some "old" In Flames (Lunar Strain, Jester Race, and JST off of Whoracle), and he didn't like it much. Let him listen to a few Come Clarity songs...and he wanted to steal my mp3 player to listen to them. This is simply an example, but I think their sound is very screamo-esque. Also, Anders brought in that HORRID singing he started in Passenger (side-project).

(edited for elaboration)

Empty Vision · March 7th, 2006, 02:51 AM

Screamo? You gotta be fucking kidding me, it sounds absolutely nothing like any form of emo/creamo/hardcore/metalcore vocals, its just bad singing.

bloodymurder · March 10th, 2006, 06:42 AM

Sounds like Nevermore? Maybe layering guitars with keyboards? Some riffs maybe? But Nevermore nu metal??? WTF you really have no idea do you

March 5th, 2006, 12:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
jessealberts Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3	what is with new guitar sound? I am in sheer terror oer the release of this album. Evergrey is far and away the best metal band to ever exist. But what the hell is with this new guitar sound? It sounds like an american nu-metal band, infact it really sounds like nevermore. This is what made evergrey so great was thier sound! no one could touch it. The guitars were so low you couldent even replcate it, trust me I tried. And now this, it sounds like they are trying to hit top 40. Ahhhhhhh I am so frustrated, why does every band have to suck eventually? We already lost arch enemy this year, now evergrey? Take a page from in flames new cd go towards the old not the new, Thomas even had a part in that cd he should know this!! Please guys go reproduce it! I thought you were the untouchable band.......i guess not.

March 5th, 2006, 09:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
coolsnow7 Raining Blood Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 885	Yeah, so first of all Nevermore is NOT a nu-metal band, second of all as far as I'm concerned they're as good as Evergrey. And if all you liked Evergrey for was their sound, then you've been missing out on a lot of music. Lastly, it's not that different. __________________ "You're a motherfucker." -Miles Davis to Chick Corea, who thought he was about to be fired.

March 5th, 2006, 03:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
BlindPanzer Iced Guardian was taken:) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 964	you just gotta get used to it, you judt don't like it right now because its not the same evergrey sound you are used to. Once you get used to it you'll see how far it is from nu-metal, musically and lyrically. __________________ "Hope" is the thing with feathers –That perches in the soul –

March 6th, 2006, 12:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
XONE Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca USA Posts: 3	I love the new guitar tone!!! I believe that the new tone is either due to new Gear (Amp Heads), Henrik's side project with Jonas, or too much "In Flames" around the studio. The lyrics and feel is still totally Tom. Still In The Water- lyrics are KILLER!!!! "...I just thought she was asleep..." And I love the low Harmonized "AAAHHH". This is going to be the longest month waiting for this new CD!!!! Now if they would just bring their show to Los Angeles.... __________________ "...I've Been Marked By The TRIANGLE..."

March 6th, 2006, 06:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
CampinCarl Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wo-Town, OH Posts: 72	I don't think In Flames sold out, so much as went screamo. Seen the video for one of the songs (can't remember the title; nor do I want to)? Had a bunch of people trying to commit suicide.--Lemme elaborate a little more. Their sound sounds like some of the screamo bands some of my friends listen to. In fact, I showed them some "old" In Flames (Lunar Strain, Jester Race, and JST off of Whoracle), and he didn't like it much. Let him listen to a few Come Clarity songs...and he wanted to steal my mp3 player to listen to them. This is simply an example, but I think their sound is very screamo-esque. Also, Anders brought in that HORRID singing he started in Passenger (side-project). (edited for elaboration) Last edited by CampinCarl : March 6th, 2006 at 06:26 PM.

March 5th, 2006, 04:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
Empty Vision The Accolade Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 60	Guitar sound - You get used to it, it works for the album. Arch Enemy - Well really Arch Enemy went down the crapper when Angela joined the band, even though Wages Of Sin is a fantastic album. Anthems and Dommsday Machine are both very flawed albums. In Flames - The new album is crap, they havnt returned to form at all, sure they made things a little faster and made the guitar harmonies a little more present, but overall this album is a poor excuse to get big whilst still holding some credibilityin the underground metal scene. People may hate the stuff on RtR and STYE but at least it sounds honest, CC sounds forced and predictable, this is the first IF album that i havnt enjoyed listening to, Evergrey's new album blows CC out of the water.

March 5th, 2006, 12:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
jessealberts Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3	No I dont think never more is nu-metal but depinding on the speed evergrey is now sounding like a mix of the both. The fact is the now hardly sound like a prog metal band, it sounds more like nevermore or some version of it. If Iron Maiden started playing in drop C people would go wooh......what the hell right? Im sorry they have went from really fast to slower, to slow. Now it was a good slow but im sorry this is unacceptable. They were the one band that I thought got it. Arch enemy, in flames, soilwork are just a few of the bands from that same area that over time began to become more americanized, either for money/fame or for other reason, and in turn began to suck. I dont want my favorite band to go down that road im sorry. You let this crap slide then in 3 years there making an evergrey version of 'stabbing the drama'.

March 5th, 2006, 10:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
EternalMetal Aftermath Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 552	I definitely hear the Nevermore influences, and more than once too. But this is not a sellout album at all, I think it is really good. And Come Clarity is a pretty good album, I enjoy it a lot. I dont think its forced, I think its what they wanted to do. they wanted to incorporate heavier elements into their newer sound, and I think they did it. I just dont like the singing in some parts, a little over the top. He is a really bad singer with a cool voice. If only he used it in the right way.

March 7th, 2006, 02:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
Empty Vision The Accolade Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 60	Screamo? You gotta be fucking kidding me, it sounds absolutely nothing like any form of emo/creamo/hardcore/metalcore vocals, its just bad singing. Last edited by Empty Vision : March 7th, 2006 at 02:53 AM.

March 10th, 2006, 06:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
bloodymurder Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 15	Sounds like Nevermore? Maybe layering guitars with keyboards? Some riffs maybe? But Nevermore nu metal??? WTF you really have no idea do you