Going for Big and Loose...

Mood Bender · September 28th, 2007, 12:35 PM

Going for big and loose... Here's my set with a pair of R84 mics in a Blumlein config out front about two feet. I added Slate samples for some punch.

http://www.funender.com/music/downlo...mode=song_hifi

EDIT: Slightly different flavor with R84 mic compression, Kick and Snare Samples

http://www.funender.com/music/downlo...mode=song_hifi

Curran · September 28th, 2007, 12:38 PM

okay, it sounds big and splashy so where or on what kind of project would you like to use this kind of sound on? and won't most of the drums get eaten up when and if you start to layer bass and guitars and vox? pretty decent zep vibe though as far as the roomy sound

Mood Bender · September 28th, 2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Curran

okay, it sounds big and splashy so where or on what kind of project would you like to use this kind of sound on? and won't most of the drums get eaten up when and if you start to layer bass and guitars and vox? pretty decent zep vibe though as far as the roomy sound

no project, I'm doing it for the fun of it... I have no clue where you'd use this... guessing for a kit that you'd want to sound like this.

hey but thanks for taking a listen.

Curran · September 28th, 2007, 12:47 PM

okay cool. so what would you use this kind of a set up for though. I am just curious since you read articles about glen or andy johns using that weird three mic set up for their drums sounds as a standard for them. and some other producer cats SWEAR by the technique. If you are playing around with it how would you go about controlling the mad mad highend cymbal action and still keep articulation on the drum kit itself. I know you are blending the slater trig sounds with the mic set up but does this defeat the ambient idea you have going on? or would you do an impulse of the room to use as your "verb" for the trigg's to blend better?

Mood Bender · September 28th, 2007, 12:56 PM

I'm on vacation this week and I'm messing around nothing more. it's not mixed for any thing other than I finally stopped moving knobs and posted this.

I have the R84s compressed significantly to amplify the room and they're way more than you'd probably need in a mix.

Radd · September 28th, 2007, 08:55 PM

Hey Mood Bender,
I love this Bonham style sound and the clip sounds fantastic. Any chance of posting individual hits of the entire kit including cymbals/ride/hats? I'd even be happy with just one good hit of each piece. I would love to play around with this sound for some insanely fun experimentation. What kit is it anyway?

KeithRT99 · September 28th, 2007, 11:40 PM

i'd like to hear it without samples. the snare sounds harsh to me.

Sloan · September 29th, 2007, 12:53 AM

dude, put that into some sludgy shit.

Mood Bender · September 29th, 2007, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KeithRT99

i'd like to hear it without samples. the snare sounds harsh to me.

here's the R84s

http://www.funender.com/music/downlo...mode=song_hifi

and a modified version

http://www.funender.com/music/downlo...mode=song_hifi

Mood Bender · September 29th, 2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Radd

Hey Mood Bender,
I love this Bonham style sound and the clip sounds fantastic. Any chance of posting individual hits of the entire kit including cymbals/ride/hats? I'd even be happy with just one good hit of each piece. I would love to play around with this sound for some insanely fun experimentation. What kit is it anyway?

thanks and I'll see what I can do.

the kit is a Pearl Export, but my snare is a Pearl Free Floating Maple. excellent snare

Seizure. · September 29th, 2007, 06:53 AM

Toms sound awesome.. kick is cool too, allthough i would tune it lower personally.. i reeaally don't like the snare though to be honest.. it sounds to lose or something.. dunno..

Mood Bender · September 29th, 2007, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Seizure.

Toms sound awesome.. kick is cool too, allthough i would tune it lower personally.. i reeaally don't like the snare though to be honest.. it sounds to lose or something.. dunno..

the snare is loose and thuddy.. something different.

Mood Bender · September 29th, 2007, 08:42 AM

ha, my Schauzers are barking at the end of the clip

another clip...

http://www.funender.com/music/downlo...mode=song_hifi

Radd · September 29th, 2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mood Bender

thanks and I'll see what I can do.

I'm sorry. I know that's a bit much to ask. When I heard your clip I thought, "I want that".
It sounds 10x better with slate's samples by the way.

Mood Bender · September 29th, 2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sloan

dude, put that into some sludgy shit.

Sludgery

The inquisitor · September 30th, 2007, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mood Bender

Sludgery

Perfect shit man

Edit: Btw how is my reamp going, havent heard from you in a while

Mood Bender · September 30th, 2007, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The inquisitor

Perfect shit man

Edit: Btw how is my reamp going, havent heard from you in a while

thanks... Email sent.

September 28th, 2007, 12:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mood Bender Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Clemson Posts: 319	Going for Big and Loose... Going for big and loose... Here's my set with a pair of R84 mics in a Blumlein config out front about two feet. I added Slate samples for some punch. http://www.funender.com/music/downlo...mode=song_hifi EDIT: Slightly different flavor with R84 mic compression, Kick and Snare Samples http://www.funender.com/music/downlo...mode=song_hifi __________________ Modena M90 \| Rev1 \| Mk III \| 3Ch DR Solo \| 5150 \| Dorado \| Legacy \| 61 Bandmaster \| 67 BF Princeton Rvb \| 67 BF Champ Clips Last edited by Mood Bender : September 29th, 2007 at 09:59 AM.

September 28th, 2007, 12:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Curran clown shoe baffoon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: O-Hell-O Posts: 151	okay, it sounds big and splashy so where or on what kind of project would you like to use this kind of sound on? and won't most of the drums get eaten up when and if you start to layer bass and guitars and vox? pretty decent zep vibe though as far as the roomy sound __________________ www.myspace.com/smileysoundsstudio www.shattermessiah.com www.myspace.com/shattermessiah

September 28th, 2007, 12:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Curran clown shoe baffoon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: O-Hell-O Posts: 151	okay cool. so what would you use this kind of a set up for though. I am just curious since you read articles about glen or andy johns using that weird three mic set up for their drums sounds as a standard for them. and some other producer cats SWEAR by the technique. If you are playing around with it how would you go about controlling the mad mad highend cymbal action and still keep articulation on the drum kit itself. I know you are blending the slater trig sounds with the mic set up but does this defeat the ambient idea you have going on? or would you do an impulse of the room to use as your "verb" for the trigg's to blend better? __________________ www.myspace.com/smileysoundsstudio www.shattermessiah.com www.myspace.com/shattermessiah

September 28th, 2007, 12:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mood Bender Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Clemson Posts: 319	I'm on vacation this week and I'm messing around nothing more. it's not mixed for any thing other than I finally stopped moving knobs and posted this. I have the R84s compressed significantly to amplify the room and they're way more than you'd probably need in a mix. __________________ Modena M90 \| Rev1 \| Mk III \| 3Ch DR Solo \| 5150 \| Dorado \| Legacy \| 61 Bandmaster \| 67 BF Princeton Rvb \| 67 BF Champ Clips

September 28th, 2007, 08:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Radd Self Portrait Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 1,351	Hey Mood Bender, I love this Bonham style sound and the clip sounds fantastic. Any chance of posting individual hits of the entire kit including cymbals/ride/hats? I'd even be happy with just one good hit of each piece. I would love to play around with this sound for some insanely fun experimentation. What kit is it anyway? __________________ Event SP8's Motu 2408 mk3 G5 mac Digital Performer Vintech Dual 72

September 28th, 2007, 11:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
KeithRT99 BOOSH. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vallejo,CA Posts: 2,159	i'd like to hear it without samples. the snare sounds harsh to me. __________________ http://www.soundclick.com/keithtidd http://www.myspace.com/keithtidd

September 29th, 2007, 12:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
Sloan Sounds like shit! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cleveland, TN Posts: 4,459	dude, put that into some sludgy shit.

September 29th, 2007, 06:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
Seizure. Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: holland Posts: 2,206	Toms sound awesome.. kick is cool too, allthough i would tune it lower personally.. i reeaally don't like the snare though to be honest.. it sounds to lose or something.. dunno.. __________________ www.myspace.com/DrDoomgrind , www.myspace.com/Beingjbrules , www.myspace.com/stonerherder , www.myspace.com/abortedmetal

September 29th, 2007, 08:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
Mood Bender Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Clemson Posts: 319	ha, my Schauzers are barking at the end of the clip another clip... http://www.funender.com/music/downlo...mode=song_hifi __________________ Modena M90 \| Rev1 \| Mk III \| 3Ch DR Solo \| 5150 \| Dorado \| Legacy \| 61 Bandmaster \| 67 BF Princeton Rvb \| 67 BF Champ Clips Last edited by Mood Bender : September 29th, 2007 at 05:54 PM.