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Old March 9th, 2004, 01:43 PM   #51 (permalink)
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This thread is funny. All the "metal" females trying to prove their "metalness" over a message board.
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Old March 9th, 2004, 02:12 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I agree Edgecrusher, as I think about it, Womens hatred of complex abrasive music, and love of emotional dance music is yet another reason why women are so attractive. Something that is so hard to ever understand - women, is all the more attractive.

Now, I will never understand the mood swings, the need to shop all day, and the whole female friendship thing ( you know women seem to backstab each other all day long, and still be friends- i cant tell you how many times i have seen a chick call her friend a fat ugly bitch behind the friends back, and then tell the friend a few seconds later she looks beautiful, and must have lost weight- now this is something I will never understand, but i do find it funny).
I hate those damn mood swings! One day they'll be your best friend and the next day they'll act like they barely know you.

Or they'll be talking to another female, and smiling nicely like they're good friends, then turn around to you and say "OOH! I can't stand her!"

Ah, they truly are one of the wonders of the world.
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Old March 9th, 2004, 02:16 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Sadude- excellent comment- wankery has no place. At least Vai has carved a niche of doing nothing but wankery, hes not attempting to write songs or create "music" like those pretentious bastards in Dream Theater.
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Old March 9th, 2004, 02:22 PM   #54 (permalink)
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First of all, placing metal into a musical hierarchy is a big mistake. It's just another form of music, no more, no less. This happens all the time within metal as well; people will rank power metal or nu-metal lower than death or black metal. Why? Personal preference does not, and will never, dictate fact. Just because you don't care for it doesn't mean it sucks (even though you may think it sucks big time).

Complexity isn't the issue; applicability is. What's the use of atttaching oneself to complex music if it doesn't evoke anything? Furthermore, creating a metal "image" is illogical. Heightening the music's influence over your life as a person to the point where it begins to dictate image takes away everything that was special about the music in the first place. When art begins to develop a stranglehold on the inner/outer workings of a person, when that person experiences the art firsthand, the aspects of the art that the person normally appreciates are lost over a much greater space. The impact is lessened, and the art itself does less to the person. People in this situation will often beign to tire of certain acts quickly; to compensate, they begin to search for more acts that are stylistically similiar. This can then lead them to become tired of the genre or subgenre as a whole. They can be blinded into outright dismissing an entire (sub)genre based on past experiences (though this isn't necessarily always a bad thing), as well as becoming moody with bands they've enjoyed in the past.

Metal is a musical form, and should be approached as one. It's a sad thing when people deify it. Fuck metalheads.
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Old March 9th, 2004, 04:41 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I never said all girls into metal were ugly, I simply said that from personal experience its very hard to spot decent looking ones at metal shows. Especially in comparison to the amount I've seen at shows of a different style of music (such as certain local shows around here for rock bands or emo bands or whatever).
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Old March 9th, 2004, 04:53 PM   #56 (permalink)
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when i see girls at metal,most of them have spikes, dress all in black, and look totally gay, rarly you'll find a hot blonde girl, but they are with they boyfriends, and most guys at metal have short hair with the exception of the posers who dress up.
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Old March 9th, 2004, 05:06 PM   #57 (permalink)
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This thread is funny. All the "metal" females trying to prove their "metalness" over a message board.
Just because you don't have to. :P
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Old March 9th, 2004, 06:45 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Tip for women who like metal STOP DRESSING UP!, and even for the men too, it looks so fucking gay!
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Old March 9th, 2004, 07:04 PM   #59 (permalink)
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This thread is funny. All the "metal" females trying to prove their "metalness" over a message board.
But the men don't, eh? heh
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Old March 9th, 2004, 11:53 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Just because you don't have to. :P
Exactly.

Reading the attitudes of some of the guys here tends to put me on the defensive.

But hey, whatever. They can think what they want, I obviously can't change anyone's opinion.

edit: I know you guys say "most" not "all" so I should just chill anyway.

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Old March 10th, 2004, 06:13 PM   #61 (permalink)
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im a female metalhead i love heavy music and i love having discussions about music with other metalheads i do agree that finding another female to talk with about music in terms of production, and discussing views about how each instrument sounds on an album is an extremly difficult task so i usually stick with talking to guys about that sort of stuff as they can usually hold a discussion as oppose to saying errr yea whatever. When you go to gigs i find that generally only a very small percentage of the audience is female and half of that percentage seem extremly bored with the music.
As for my dress sense i dont wear spikes and i wear the same makeup to gigs that i wear to work at gigs i always wear jeans a band shirt and either trainers or boots depending on which i find first definatly dont dress up i mean whats the point in wearing a corset and if your stuck in 6 inch heels you cant have half as much fun in the pit or at least it seems that way to me and by the way i wouldnt call myself totally dropdead gorgeous beauty queen but im not fucking ugly!!
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Old March 10th, 2004, 07:31 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Why are there so few women that like metal?

Another mystery for the ages.
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Old March 11th, 2004, 04:04 AM   #63 (permalink)
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im a female metalhead i love heavy music and i love having discussions about music with other metalheads i do agree that finding another female to talk with about music in terms of production, and discussing views about how each instrument sounds on an album is an extremly difficult task so i usually stick with talking to guys about that sort of stuff as they can usually hold a discussion as oppose to saying errr yea whatever. When you go to gigs i find that generally only a very small percentage of the audience is female and half of that percentage seem extremly bored with the music.
Well as a female metal fan it is your responsibilty to get as many of your female friends into the music as possible. It's up to you to make women a dominant force in the metal world. Then more metal loving blokes will be able to have metal loving girlfriends. Then they can breed & have metal loving babys. Then the whole world will become metal fans.

Most women only seem to like metal when they're teenagers then they "grow out of it".
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Old March 11th, 2004, 09:01 AM   #64 (permalink)
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As if there aren't enough male trendwhores into metal, we need more female ones too?
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Old March 11th, 2004, 09:12 AM   #65 (permalink)
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This thread is funny. All the "metal" females trying to prove their "metalness" over a message board.
Yes and NO, I don't have to prove myself to anyone. Yet again what I'm saying is that, though there are few, there are chicks in metal. Many may be brainless and easy influenced. But just like any stereo-type. There are females who are true to the metal.
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Old March 11th, 2004, 04:03 PM   #66 (permalink)
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I think a better question than, "why do women hate metal?" is "do a lot of women ever use the left/logical side of their brain?" Instead of acting like pissed off feminists right when you see something about females into metal, try to actually pay attention to what is being said. All I've seen is a bunch of "metal chicks" trying to prove themselves in this thread when the majority of posters here aren't necessarily saying, there aren't any female metallers; just, they haven't really seen that many at shows or that A LOT of them are groupies, goths, and/or poseurs.. this doesn't mean all of them.

Incase any of the girls missed it because they were too busy being emotional, the keyword here is: Most.
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Old March 11th, 2004, 07:11 PM   #67 (permalink)
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A single thought ran through my head while reading the comments on this board...

Where the hell did all of these female board members protrude from!? I swear, I've noticed MAYBE one before...question, do you all require an effortless provocation concerning your gender in order to expose yourselves and participate? Don't be timid, there are far too many men here. Assist us in making our beloved ultimatemetal board a bit less of a homoerotic hobby, please!

Also, since when does dance music constitute something emotional? There are literally a plethora of metal bands I listen to that compose genuinely-emotional music.

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I Am Only Attracted To Men In Metal, Metal Or Just Music In General In A Huge Part Of My Life And I Couldn't Be With Some One If We Had Huge Differences,

And I Find Metal Heads Sexy, I Definatly Perfer Long Hair!!!!!
Besides Most Guys Preppy Guys Dont Like My Tatoos, Yes I Do Care What I Look Like Or I Wouldn't Work Out, But I Would Never Date Someone Who Wan't Into Metal. Your Apperance Dosen't Matter As Much As The Connection Or What You Have In Common. Metal Is Basically My Life.
If there's one thing I deduced from your post, it's that you can't type. Thank you for exerting the extra effort to hold shift at the beginning of every word thus straining my vision, you compulsive dipsit. Every word in your insipid paragraph isn't a proper noun. How could everyone else dismiss such a blatant display of discourtesy and stupidity?

Oh yes, I've forgotten to congratulate you on being a walking cliche. Have fun with that.

Anyway, that being said, I've met quite a wide surplus of women into metal. Unfortunately, they were all self-alienated bimbos. So much for that.

Seriously however, my own girlfriend happens to admire complex music and metal, and by no means is she a bimbo. Contrary to my once-firm beliefs, they DO exist. It's just a shame that there's such a dearth of them.
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Old March 12th, 2004, 10:00 AM   #68 (permalink)
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A single thought ran through my head while reading the comments on this board...

Where the hell did all of these female board members protrude from!? I swear, I've noticed MAYBE one before...question, do you all require an effortless provocation concerning your gender in order to expose yourselves and participate? Don't be timid, there are far too many men here. Assist us in making our beloved ultimatemetal board a bit less of a homoerotic hobby, please!

Also, since when does dance music constitute something emotional? There are literally a plethora of metal bands I listen to that compose genuinely-emotional music.



Well, either you made up your girlfriend, or your pissed because she's ugly. Because you have some women problems here. If you need to talk I'm here.

Think of it this way asshole, I'm the only girl in group of about 15. Not because of any other reason then NO WOMEN I KNOW LIKE METAL, or they pretend to get the guy. I have worked hard to get respect, so what I'm saying is Fuck off.


If there's one thing I deduced from your post, it's that you can't type. Thank you for exerting the extra effort to hold shift at the beginning of every word thus straining my vision, you compulsive dipsit. Every word in your insipid paragraph isn't a proper noun. How could everyone else dismiss such a blatant display of discourtesy and stupidity?

Oh yes, I've forgotten to congratulate you on being a walking cliche. Have fun with that.

Anyway, that being said, I've met quite a wide surplus of women into metal. Unfortunately, they were all self-alienated bimbos. So much for that.

Seriously however, my own girlfriend happens to admire complex music and metal, and by no means is she a bimbo. Contrary to my once-firm beliefs, they DO exist. It's just a shame that there's such a dearth of them.
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Old March 12th, 2004, 10:58 AM   #69 (permalink)
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There seems to be alot of aggression in this thread & alot of women bashing. Why is this?
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Old March 12th, 2004, 03:21 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Because 99.9% of women are stupid whores.
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There is no reason for this women bashing sexism.
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Old April 20th, 2004, 09:42 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Hmmm. Well, I am a female, and have a demo CD of all original material. I've also been into many metal bands for years, such as Dream Theater, Iron Maiden, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains. Recently I've also been writing more original stuff with more distorted guitar.

I actually don't know any women who just like "sappy happy stuff." Most women I know like rock, hard rock, or even industrial/metal stuff, and shun artists such as Britney Spears or pop stuff. I've also gotten negative feedback from guys about being a woman who DOES like metal, they act like it's really strange and out of place. So from an objective perspective, it seems people think of women in metal in two ways: Either women 'dont' get" complex music, or that when they do, they're treated as odd somehow.




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Why do so few women care for complex music? I know of no woman that gets exciting about a guitarist or drummer or groundbreaking band. All women seem to care about is sappy happy songs- of course this is a broad generalization, some women really do care for complex stuff etc. Yet, as I think about it, how many women are even musicians- and those that are, how many have any talent besides a few chinese violinists, and certain female vocalists. Is complex , or non emotional music totally a male interest?
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Old April 20th, 2004, 11:31 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, it seems most male metalheads are very negative to any female metalheads, or shall I say "posers"?

Notice I said most metalheads before any guys start getting angry just like all the women have done so far.
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Old April 20th, 2004, 03:24 PM   #74 (permalink)
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I have one female friend who listens to metal. She weighs a hundred and ten kilos, wears a thick coat of white paint and dresses in nothing but black. But, she DOES enjoy the music, and that's what counts.

But, all in all, I guess I agree with the majority of males in this thread. Too few females listen to metal. And those who do are, unfortunately, too worried about theri image.

I guess I'm lucky, though. My girlfriend listens to Guns N' Roses. Better than Britney, at least...

That's me, adding absolutely nothing new or interesting to the thread.
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