Black Metal.

[post-human]

Originally Posted by Zephyrus

Marduk - Rom 5:12
Naglfar - Harvest
N.I.L. - N.I.L.
Watain - Sworn to the Dark

Got other 2,need to check these 2 out.
@Zephyrus,since as far as I know you are an Aborym fan.I am really liking their album "generator",are the previous albums as good as this?Can you recomend me any band like them?
And did you check out new Behemoth?Have you liked it?

And I like Be persecuted too.The song title & cover this stuff I also look for in an album,but if I like the music I don't care that much.And since good BM from Asia is rare,so....
By the way,can anyone tell me where to find their lyrics?

[Jreg]

Originally Posted by thisisaformicatable

I wasn't referring to the production. Musically it just sounded like another band, and when an artist chooses a medium (in this case the English language) that they are utterly inept at using, then they fail to convey their message. All you have left are pretty sounds with funny names, which isn't what I look for in my music. If that's wrong, then I don't want to be right.

More people will buy a record incompetently sung in English than one competently sung in Chinese.

[Zephyrus]

Originally Posted by post-human

Got other 2,need to check these 2 out.
@Zephyrus,since as far as I know you are an Aborym fan.I am really liking their album "generator",are the previous albums as good as this?Can you recomend me any band like them?

Generator is their crowning achievement but all their albums are excellent. I would pick up With No Human Intervention and work my way backwards. Fire Walk With Us is great, especially for the Burzum cover. I haven't picked up their first album yet, but I will soon.

If you want a band similar to Aborym I would recommend Mysticum. You should also check out the re-vamped version of The Kovenant's In Times Before the Light.

And did you check out new Behemoth?Have you liked it?

Yes and yes.

And I like Be persecuted too.The song title & cover this stuff I also look for in an album,but if I like the music I don't care that much.And since good BM from Asia is rare,so....
By the way,can anyone tell me where to find their lyrics?

I listened to Be Persecuted last night, sitting by a beach fire. It was quite an experience. I kept imagining the vocalist was being burned at the stake over the fire I was gazing upon. THe production is perfect to convey an atmosphere of such painfully depressive emotions, and the melodies are solid. I also liked how the drumming was more varied than many albums of the same ilk.

Can't help you on lyrics, sorry.

[Vossyrus]

Wagontrain, I have about 99% of those downloaded. (Yes I'm a download whore also, why? - to explore what music is out there and then if I like it I buy the album). I will be certain to check out your recommended ones. Personally, I find it hard to make a top list for anything, it would take me forever to decide.

[Mathiäs]

Originally Posted by King Richard

Heh, I care about song titles. I care about cover art, and album titles, and lyrical content, and well pretty much everything about the band. You know, kinda helps fully grasp what they're about.

I don't give a fuck about any of those things.

Originally Posted by Tallerthanatree

Has anyone heard of Profanum? They're a very unique project. They opt for classical instruments rather than the usual guitars and basses.

http://www.myspace.com/profanumfanpage

But thats their newer material. On the Myspace they have one song like that, and two that have guitars, before they decided to stop using them.

Profanum are excellent! The only album I don't have right now is Misantropiae Floris.

[Crimson Velvet]

Originally Posted by Montu Sekhmet

I don't give a fuck about any of those things.[/i]

Well, that could explain how you can at least tolerate some of the shit you listen to...

[Mathiäs]

Originally Posted by Crimson Velvet

Well, that could explain how you can at least tolerate some of the shit you listen to...

Grow some balls and listen to real metal bitch!

[King Drunkard]

Originally Posted by Montu Sekhmet

I don't give a fuck about any of those things.

Sucks to be you then I guess.

[~Neurotica]

Hey Montu, I'm going to print a shirt (he didn't produce any) with Grimlair's first full-length album. Already got a huge resolution pic

[Crimson Velvet]

Originally Posted by Montu Sekhmet

Grow some balls and listen to real metal bitch!

Such as Arcturus, Anaal Nathrak, Opeth, Symphony X, Dark Funeral, Meshuggah and god knows what other crap you have on there? Yeah, I think I'll pass...

[Cythraul]

So I'm starting to realize that Frost by Enslaved is a really good album. Not just good, but really good. I can't believe I used to not really like this album. How anybody could think their later material is even remotely close to touching their earlier work is beyond me.

[Mathiäs]

Originally Posted by ~Neurotica

Hey Montu, I'm going to print a shirt (he didn't produce any) with Grimlair's first full-length album. Already got a huge resolution pic

Can you send me one? I'll paypal you money or something.

[Hatebreeder]

Originally Posted by Montu Sekhmet

Can you send me one? I'll paypal you money or something.

This post is funny when juxtaposed next to his earlier posts about not giving a fuck about album artistry.

Originally Posted by Crimson Velvet

Such as Arcturus, Anaal Nathrak, Opeth, Symphony X, Dark Funeral, Meshuggah and god knows what other crap you have on there? Yeah, I think I'll pass...

You have no taste. These bands have had some excellent cover art, too; what's wrong with you?

[Mathiäs]

Originally Posted by Hatebreeder

This post is funny when juxtaposed next to his earlier posts about not giving a fuck about album artistry.

I don't pay attention to lyrics. I like good covers and shit. Plus, Grimlair slays and I want a shit really badly. (Considering he never made any, according to Neuro)

[Death Aflame]

Originally Posted by wagontrain

HUGE FUCKING BM LIST

So, do you listen to other genres of metal at all?

[Scourge of God]

Originally Posted by Cythraul

So I'm starting to realize that Frost by Enslaved is a really good album. Not just good, but really good. I can't believe I used to not really like this album. How anybody could think their later material is even remotely close to touching their earlier work is beyond me.

Because all it's 'complexity' is immediately graspable upon a listen or two, so it's a lot easier for the inattentive to wrap their (small) minds around.

[Koude Haat]

Originally Posted by wagontrain

In case anyone gives a shit, here is my halfway list for 2007 black metal. Feel free to bitch and complain about it.

Top 35 Black Metal:

1. Nae'blis - Sketches of Reality [SWE] (depressive)
2. Drowning the Light - To The End of Time [AUS] (raw, atmospheric)
3. Hypothermia - Rakbladsvalsen [SWE] (depressive)
4. Drowning the Light - Through The Noose of Existence (demo)/ A World Long Dead (LP) [AUS] (raw, atmospheric)
5. Graveland - Will Stronger Than Death [POL] (epic, heavy)
6. Sacrificia Mortuorum - Maturum Est [FRA] (raw, melodic)
7. Walknut - Graveforests & Their Shadows [RUS] (atmospheric)
8. Inquisition - Nefarious Dismal Orations [USA] (dark, heavy)
9. Deathspell Omega - Fas - Ite, Maledicti, In Ignem Aeternum [FRA] (progressive, epic)
10. Nocturnal Depression - Soundtrack For A Suicide - Opus II [FRA] (depressive)

11. Dodsferd - Fucking Your Creation [GRE] (brutal, fast)
12. Black Funeral - Waters of Weeping [USA] (dark, atmospheric)
13. Vrolok - The Divine Abortion [USA] (ambient, atmospheric)
14. Be Persecuted - I.I [CHN] (depressive)
15. Mayhem - Ordo Ad Chao [NOR] (dark, heavy)
16. Gallhammer - The Dawn Of [JPN] (heavy, fast) [three japanese women... fucking awesome !!]
17. Make A Change... Kill Yourself - II [DEN] (depressive)
18. Anarazel - Exhumed Blasphemies [AUS] (brutal)
19. Shining - V - Halmstad [SWE] (progressive, dark)
20. Control Human Delete - Terminal World Perspective [NED] (industrial)

21. Iskald - Shades of Misery [NOR] (heavy)
22. Angra Mainyu - Versunkenheit [GER] (depressive)
23. Thus Defiled - Daemonspawn [GBR] (brutal)
24. Gestapo 666 - Nostalgiah [FRA] (raw, brutal)
25. Taarma - Remnants of a Tormenting Black Shadow [AFG] (atmospheric)
26. Valkyrja - The Invocation of Demise [SWE] (fast, melodic)
27. Grimlair - Locked Up And Forgotten [FRA] (raw, melodic)
28. Dusk - Pray for Death [HUN] (depressive)
29. Profanatica - Profanatitas De Domonatia [USA] (dark, heavy)
30. Lord Belial - Revelation [SWE] (melodic, brutal)

31. Angantyr - Haevn [DEN] (melodic)
32. Kult - Winds of War [ITA] (brutal, fast)
33. Todeskult - Als Die Farben Aelter Wurden [GER] (melodic)
34. Eternity - Funeral Mass [GER] (brutal, raw)
35. Lunar Aurora - Andacht [GER] (brutal)



Black Metal ranging from "above average" to "very good", but not good enough for the list (yet)

Nordicwinter - Threnody
Massemord - Let The World Burn
Vreid - I Krig
Mortuus - De Contemplanda Morte
Mgla - Further Down the Nest
Nattsmyg - Nar Solen Slocknar
AVICHI - The Divine Tragedy
Urgehal - The Eternal Eclipse
Sauron - The Channeling Void
Kult Perunov - Duhovi Predaka
Striborg - Ghostwoodlands
Malsain - The Disease
Sigh - Hangman's Hymn
Mortuus Infradaemoni - Daemon Qui Fecit Terram
Forgotten Woods - Race of Cain
Obscurus Advocam - Verbia Daemonicus
Seelengreif - Jenseits Der Schatten
Dark Ravage - Dawn of a New World
Marduk - ROM 5:12
Deofel - Aposni Rytual
Blood Of The Black Owl - Blood of the Black Owl
Crystal Abyss - Word of the Darkest Ages
E-Noid - Dodssyklus
Gospel Of The Horns - Realm of the Damned
Peste Noire - Lorraine Rehearsal (the last track is phenomenal)


Black Metal I did not like. There was a lot more, but I tend to delete/forget about the stuff I really don't like:
Naglfar - Harvest
Astaarth - Gloria Burgundia
Impious Havoc - Manifestations of Plague and War
Watain - Sworn to the Dark
Stiny Plamenu - Odpani Galerie
Glorior Belli - Manifesting the Raging Beast
Occidens - Glorification of the Antichrist
Sworn - The Alleviation
PANTHEON I - The Wanderer and His Shadow
Besatt - Triumph of Antichrist
Thornspawn - Sanctified by Satan's Blood
Ornias - Death Bringer
Bergraven - Dodsvisioner
WYRM - Seven Gates of Apocalypse
Infernal War - Redesekration
Horna - Sotahuuto
Imperial Crystalline Entombment - Apocalyptic End in White
Abigor - Fractal Possession
Marks of the Masochist - To Shape The End
Runenblut - Die Stimme Des Blutes
Wotanorden - Aryan Culture Preservation
Astarte - Demonized
Loits - Must Album
Beu Ribe - Full Moon Symphonies
Circle of Ouroborus - Streams
Furze - UTD
Raate - Sielu Linna



This is a week or two old so there are some recently leaked/acquired albums that won't be making an appearance till the end-of-year list.

profanatica and Lunar Aurora should be way higher, but good list. I've bought most of those albums.

[Scourge of God]

Originally Posted by wagontrain

In case anyone gives a shit, here is my halfway list for 2007 black metal. Feel free to bitch and complain about it.

Top 35 Black Metal:

1. Nae'blis - Sketches of Reality [SWE] (depressive)
2. Drowning the Light - To The End of Time [AUS] (raw, atmospheric)
3. Hypothermia - Rakbladsvalsen [SWE] (depressive)
4. Drowning the Light - Through The Noose of Existence (demo)/ A World Long Dead (LP) [AUS] (raw, atmospheric)
5. Graveland - Will Stronger Than Death [POL] (epic, heavy)
6. Sacrificia Mortuorum - Maturum Est [FRA] (raw, melodic)
7. Walknut - Graveforests & Their Shadows [RUS] (atmospheric)
8. Inquisition - Nefarious Dismal Orations [USA] (dark, heavy)
9. Deathspell Omega - Fas - Ite, Maledicti, In Ignem Aeternum [FRA] (progressive, epic)
10. Nocturnal Depression - Soundtrack For A Suicide - Opus II [FRA] (depressive)

11. Dodsferd - Fucking Your Creation [GRE] (brutal, fast)
12. Black Funeral - Waters of Weeping [USA] (dark, atmospheric)
13. Vrolok - The Divine Abortion [USA] (ambient, atmospheric)
14. Be Persecuted - I.I [CHN] (depressive)
15. Mayhem - Ordo Ad Chao [NOR] (dark, heavy)
16. Gallhammer - The Dawn Of [JPN] (heavy, fast) [three japanese women... fucking awesome !!]
17. Make A Change... Kill Yourself - II [DEN] (depressive)
18. Anarazel - Exhumed Blasphemies [AUS] (brutal)
19. Shining - V - Halmstad [SWE] (progressive, dark)
20. Control Human Delete - Terminal World Perspective [NED] (industrial)

21. Iskald - Shades of Misery [NOR] (heavy)
22. Angra Mainyu - Versunkenheit [GER] (depressive)
23. Thus Defiled - Daemonspawn [GBR] (brutal)
24. Gestapo 666 - Nostalgiah [FRA] (raw, brutal)
25. Taarma - Remnants of a Tormenting Black Shadow [AFG] (atmospheric)
26. Valkyrja - The Invocation of Demise [SWE] (fast, melodic)
27. Grimlair - Locked Up And Forgotten [FRA] (raw, melodic)
28. Dusk - Pray for Death [HUN] (depressive)
29. Profanatica - Profanatitas De Domonatia [USA] (dark, heavy)
30. Lord Belial - Revelation [SWE] (melodic, brutal)

31. Angantyr - Haevn [DEN] (melodic)
32. Kult - Winds of War [ITA] (brutal, fast)
33. Todeskult - Als Die Farben Aelter Wurden [GER] (melodic)
34. Eternity - Funeral Mass [GER] (brutal, raw)
35. Lunar Aurora - Andacht [GER] (brutal)



Black Metal ranging from "above average" to "very good", but not good enough for the list (yet)

Nordicwinter - Threnody
Massemord - Let The World Burn
Vreid - I Krig
Mortuus - De Contemplanda Morte
Mgla - Further Down the Nest
Nattsmyg - Nar Solen Slocknar
AVICHI - The Divine Tragedy
Urgehal - The Eternal Eclipse
Sauron - The Channeling Void
Kult Perunov - Duhovi Predaka
Striborg - Ghostwoodlands
Malsain - The Disease
Sigh - Hangman's Hymn
Mortuus Infradaemoni - Daemon Qui Fecit Terram
Forgotten Woods - Race of Cain
Obscurus Advocam - Verbia Daemonicus
Seelengreif - Jenseits Der Schatten
Dark Ravage - Dawn of a New World
Marduk - ROM 5:12
Deofel - Aposni Rytual
Blood Of The Black Owl - Blood of the Black Owl
Crystal Abyss - Word of the Darkest Ages
E-Noid - Dodssyklus
Gospel Of The Horns - Realm of the Damned
Peste Noire - Lorraine Rehearsal (the last track is phenomenal)


Black Metal I did not like. There was a lot more, but I tend to delete/forget about the stuff I really don't like:
Naglfar - Harvest
Astaarth - Gloria Burgundia
Impious Havoc - Manifestations of Plague and War
Watain - Sworn to the Dark
Stiny Plamenu - Odpani Galerie
Glorior Belli - Manifesting the Raging Beast
Occidens - Glorification of the Antichrist
Sworn - The Alleviation
PANTHEON I - The Wanderer and His Shadow
Besatt - Triumph of Antichrist
Thornspawn - Sanctified by Satan's Blood
Ornias - Death Bringer
Bergraven - Dodsvisioner
WYRM - Seven Gates of Apocalypse
Infernal War - Redesekration
Horna - Sotahuuto
Imperial Crystalline Entombment - Apocalyptic End in White
Abigor - Fractal Possession
Marks of the Masochist - To Shape The End
Runenblut - Die Stimme Des Blutes
Wotanorden - Aryan Culture Preservation
Astarte - Demonized
Loits - Must Album
Beu Ribe - Full Moon Symphonies
Circle of Ouroborus - Streams
Furze - UTD
Raate - Sielu Linna



This is a week or two old so there are some recently leaked/acquired albums that won't be making an appearance till the end-of-year list.

You aren't even aware of the concept of 'female,' are you?

[Mort Divine]

No one can ever please you can they?

[DarkBliss]

You're witnessing SoG at his loosest. I think he's wasted, at least that's the impression I get. Supersized font(in the other thread) isn't a favored auxiliary device amongst the sober, especially since he knows how to get his point across without resorting to caps.

[thisisaformicatable]

Originally Posted by V.V.V.V.V.

Why should I judge a band's music on their song titles if they are awkward?

Because the title is part of the music, if you look at the big picture. If Fenriz had named the first Neptune Towers album not Caravans To Empire Algol but Taking A Dump In A Dirty Public Toilet wouldn't that totally change your interpretation of the music? Unless, again, you're just putting the album on in the background and don't care about the music's meaning either way. At least that's the theory.

[Death Aflame]

The band's engrish has absolutely nothing to do with whether you are able to enjoy their music or not.

Appropriate lyrics and titles are an added bonus. Especially in metal where 99% of the bands write the music first and lyrics second. To think otherwise is just stupid.

[unknown]

so what about Negura Bunget labelling the tracks on N Crugu Bradului simply "I, II, III, IV" or Darkspace doing something similar?

track titles, at the most, should reflect the lyrical content, but if you need them in order to judge a band more critically, then perhaps your time would be better spent pouring over philosophical texts for grammar errors instead of listening to metal.

[Death Aflame]

Originally Posted by unknown

so what about Negura Bunget labelling the tracks on N Crugu Bradului simply "I, II, III, IV" or Darkspace doing something similar?

track titles, at the most, should reflect the lyrical content, but if you need them in order to judge a band more critically, then perhaps your time would be better spent pouring over philosophical texts for grammar errors instead of listening to metal.

Good point.

[thisisaformicatable]

Originally Posted by unknown

so what about Negura Bunget labelling the tracks on N Crugu Bradului simply "I, II, III, IV" or Darkspace doing something similar?

Deliberately obscuring meaning, creating a "mysterious" aura, emphasizing the importance of the album as a whole over individual compositions, any number of purposes.

Originally Posted by unknown

track titles, at the most, should reflect the lyrical content, but if you need them in order to judge a band more critically, then perhaps your time would be better spent pouring over philosophical texts for grammar errors instead of listening to metal.

Originally Posted by Death Aflame

The band's engrish has absolutely nothing to do with whether you are able to enjoy their music or not.

Appropriate lyrics and titles are an added bonus. Especially in metal where 99% of the bands write the music first and lyrics second. To think otherwise is just stupid.

If you aren't interested in the music as anything more than entertainment that's fine, but don't sell the art short just because you aren't interested in it on a deeper level.