Metalcore

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Indeed.

[Txsxhx]

I like Caliban, although they consider themselves hardcore, not metalcore.

[V.V.V.V.V.]

No one cares what bands consider themselves, but Caliban is definitely metal-leaning. They should listen to some hardcore bands before they consider themselves hardcore though

[Mudvain_for_life]

beneath the sky
arise and ruin
emmure
zao
haste the day(older)
despised icon(deathcore but meh)
red chord

[v2kv]

Originally Posted by Alter

I noticed people were talking about Fall Of Troy, they really are not bad at all!

Does the metalcore tag only refer to what bands like Maroon? What about real hardcore punk/ska bands like Leftover Crack that mix metal into there music? Or old school stuff like S.O.D?

Yeah Fall of Troy are great, not to mention Thomas Erak is amazing (guitarist/vocalist).
As for Leftover Crack, I consider them a hardcore punk band...maybe they'd fit in skacore, but I don't think so. Speaking of good skacore however, The Flaming Tsunamis are awesome...anyone like them?

Originally Posted by Mudvain_for_life

beneath the sky
arise and ruin
emmure
zao
haste the day(older)

lol.

[Mudvain_for_life]

haha wats so funny those are better bands then fall of troy so just ya

[ObscureInfinity]

I've been getting way more into the abstract side of metalcore/(post-hardcore?) as of late. Particularly the likes of Converge, Starkweather, Deadguy, and 7 Angels 7 Plagues (not really abstract but certainly different).

[cookiecutter]

Are Protest the Hero metalcore? Because they really really suck

[v2kv]

Originally Posted by Mudvain_for_life

haha wats so funny those are better bands then fall of troy so just ya

lol I suppose that's your opinion, but all the bands you listed are either really generic, or just complete crap. The Fall of Troy at least have their own sound.

beneath the sky - in flames/at the gates ripoff
emmure - breakdown after breakdown after breakdown
haste the day - really boring christian metalcore
zao - they're ok I guess, but nothing special
arise and ruin - these guys are just terrible...I saw them open for BTBAM and The Red Chord and yeah, not worthy.

Originally Posted by ObscureInfinity

I've been getting way more into the abstract side of metalcore/(post-hardcore?) as of late. Particularly the likes of Converge, Starkweather, Deadguy, and 7 Angels 7 Plagues (not really abstract but certainly different).

good bands, if you like 7 Angels 7 Plagues check out Misery Signals...same guys except a different singer.

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Originally Posted by cookiecutter

Are Protest the Hero metalcore? Because they really really suck

They are mainly progressive metalcore but yes they suck.