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June 26th, 2008, 12:56 PM
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...And okra for all
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The way I see it, the reason why Dimmu Borgir are so disliked is because the managed to piss off true BM fans by popularizing one of the most inaccessible genres in extreme metal, turning it into something shallow that anyone with tolerance for extreme vocals can pick up and enjoy.
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He will not be hostage,
he will not be slave,
no snare of past can trap him,
though the future may.
Still he runs and burns behind him,
in advanced retreat;
still his life remains unfettered-
he denies defeat.
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June 26th, 2008, 01:43 PM
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Limbonic Architect
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Their role as a gateway band would make up for that offense. Black Metal bands would struggle to survive if it weren't for the worldwide support of fans, many of whom got into the genre through Dimmu Borgir.
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June 26th, 2008, 02:04 PM
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Amidst the Flames
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Knowing about Dimmu Borgir actually kept me from listening to black metal for a while. I got into black metal from Burzum.
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June 26th, 2008, 02:07 PM
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Limbonic Architect
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I didn't say they were the only gateway band, nor were they a requirement for getting into Black Metal.
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June 26th, 2008, 02:37 PM
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Helltic Frosthammer
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkBliss
The way I see it, the reason why Dimmu Borgir are so disliked is because the managed to piss off true BM fans by popularizing one of the most inaccessible genres in extreme metal, turning it into something shallow that anyone with tolerance for extreme vocals can pick up and enjoy.
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They're so disliked because so many people dislike their music. |
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June 26th, 2008, 03:32 PM
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...And okra for all
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Right. In other news, X equals X.
Seriously, Nec, that's a boring way of putting it.
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He will not be hostage,
he will not be slave,
no snare of past can trap him,
though the future may.
Still he runs and burns behind him,
in advanced retreat;
still his life remains unfettered-
he denies defeat.
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June 26th, 2008, 03:35 PM
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Helltic Frosthammer
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It's better than making up bullshit to justify liking a band that a lot of other people don't like. I doubt that there are any more of a handful of people who would actually enjoy Dimmu Borgir if it were not for the fact that they 'popularized' Black Metal.
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June 26th, 2008, 04:19 PM
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...And okra for all
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Who's making up bullshit? The people who like them, obviously praise their songwriting skills, the ability to write memorable songs.It's not difficult to understand them. You and I, for instance, may argue that that's not enough for the making of QUALITY music, but then again, every person has his own criterions for determining quality : some seek music that takes them somewhere via twisted and harsh soundscapes, others are satisfied with easily digestible tunes that get stuck in the head. The third group enjoys the best of both worlds.
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He will not be hostage,
he will not be slave,
no snare of past can trap him,
though the future may.
Still he runs and burns behind him,
in advanced retreat;
still his life remains unfettered-
he denies defeat.
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June 26th, 2008, 04:24 PM
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Ahh! me so horny!
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I'm not into Dimmu Borgir but in terms of Black Metal they're some of the best musicians in the genre. I'm guessing they enjoy being talented and not sounding like shit and it's not different than black metal metal bands who like to sound like shit and be crappy musicians for whatever reasons.
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June 26th, 2008, 04:42 PM
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JUMPING CHANGOS
Join Date: Dec 2003
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You criticize their image and presentation and then you claim it's irrelevant. I accept your surrender.
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You clearly are confused. His objection is irrelevant. It's certainly no defense of a shitty metal band to claim that most metal is just as or almost as shitty as said band. That's just a distraction from the actual issue, i.e. whether or not Dimmu Borgir sucks. |
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