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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Traditional Doom Metal

NOTE: Don't talk about Death/Doom, Black/Doom, Funeral Doom, or any of that shit itt kthxbai.



There's just something about Doom Metal that strikes me as utterly captivating, the utter despair and the agony of life that is so often expressed in this music coupled with absolutely bludgeoning riffs that just wash over your brain and grab hold of your attention until it's done speaking to you. This all began right from the beginning, with Black Sabbath's eponymous hymn, which is to this day arguably the finest display of the genre's aesthetics, and it continues through a legion of newer bands who have essentially bypassed decades of musical evolution and have reverted back to the very foundations of the genre for their inspiration. This results in something that just feels very organic and untainted by musical and ideological devolution, to produce genuine music created by genuine disciples of Doom. It's like looking back in time to an era that were born too late to witness yourself. And yet the genre still evolves (how much, however, is arguable), with bands like Warning and Griftegard and Mirror Of Deception.



These are, in my experience, some of the finest examples of Doom Metal of all time:















Etc. You get the idea. Discuss.



In Doom related news, both Warning albums are scheduled to be reissued by Cyclone Empire Records, probably some time next year. Watching From A Distance will also be put out on vinyl, which is the first priority.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Saint Vitus is next on my 'to order from the internet' list.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Surprised you picked Beyond the Crimson Horizon over Into the Depths of Sorrow.

I have loved some classic doom (and some other doom) but overall have not explored or appreciated the genre as I feel I want to. Solitude Aetrunus - Into the Depths of Sorrow is one that I love. There was a Candlemass that I loved (either Nightfall or Tales of Creation, can't remember which) but it may have been a cassette, and I don't seem to have it any longer. Of course, early Sabbath. Never really explored Trouble much. Not sure I have heard Pentagram.

I agree, there is something pure about classic doom, and I plan to explore it more in the nearish future.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:21 AM   #4 (permalink)
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In Doom related news, both Warning albums are scheduled to be reissued by Cyclone Empire Records, probably some time next year. Watching From A Distance will also be put out on vinyl, which is the first priority.
Did you note that part of my post?
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I noted it, but haven't heard that band.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:22 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Surprised you picked Beyond the Crimson Horizon over Into the Depths of Sorrow.

I have loved some classic doom (and some other doom) but overall have not explored or appreciated the genre as I feel I want to. Solitude Aetrunus - Into the Depths of Sorrow is one that I love. There was a Candlemass that I loved (either Nightfall or Tales of Creation, can't remember which) but it may have been a cassette, and I don't seem to have it any longer. Of course, early Sabbath. Never really explored Trouble much. Not sure I have heard Pentagram.

I agree, there is something pure about classic doom, and I plan to explore it more in the nearish future.


Into The Depths Of Sorrow is great, and has some of their best songs, but it's not as consistent as Beyond The Crimson Horizon, so I prefer the latter by a slight margin.

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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I must say that Forsaken is one of the most underrated (or atleast never talked about) bands in this genre, all albums are masterpieces imo.

Trouble is kinda overrated though imo, they are good, no denying there but top doom albums of all the time? Nah. Especially when I don't spot Epicus Doomicus Metallicus in your list.

Edit: NP Saint Vitus - Trail of Pestilence, best Vitus song ever (from their best album)!
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If you don't spot EDM, then the image just isn't loading for you, because it's there.

I honestly have yet to really check out Forsaken. And you need to listen to Trouble more.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Not sure if you have heard Veni Domine, but they are somewhere near classic doom.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:26 AM   #10 (permalink)
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It's not loading cuz Rockdetector which you snagged it from doesn't allow image hotlinking sry d00d.
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So what are the ten essential traditional doom metal bands to hear?

I've already heard:
Candlemass
Pentagram
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Lol yeah, the image doesn't seem to load. :P

Try getting their EP Iconoclast, it is probably pretty cheap and contains their best work imo. Epic to the maximum.

I probably need to listen to Trouble more, I don't own any of their albums thats my biggest problem. Need to get hold of Psalm 9. I have seen them live though!

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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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So what are the ten essential traditional doom metal bands to hear?

I've already heard:
Candlemass
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Sabbath
add Solitude Aeturnus for sure. Maybe Into the Depths of Sorrow or Through the Darkest Hour.
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More bands that would pretty much fit the list:

The Obsessed
Saint Vitus
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So what are the ten essential traditional doom metal bands to hear?

I've already heard:
Candlemass
Pentagram
Sabbath
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Trouble
Saint Vitus
Solitude Aeturnus
Witchfinder General
Pagan Altar
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I'm glad this thread was made, I've been meaning to try some trad doom.

I've heard the mighty Sab, Candlemass (which I didn't like), Pentagram, and Trouble so far fyi.
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Which Candlemass did you hear?
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Revelation

I've been trying to find Salvation's Answer on CD for a reasonable price. I have the tape.

How do their other releases (which typically sell for less) compare?
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i agree with everything Necuratul wrote in his initial post. to his list of essential releases i'd also add Candlemass 'Nightfall', Solitude Aeturnus 'Through The Darkest Hour' and Cathedral 'Forest Of Equilibrium'. there are also some fine albums from Solstice and Doomsword
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Candlemass with Messiah and Solitude Aeturnus with Rob Lowe are just such perfect matches. So how is the dynamic with Rob singing on the latest Candlemass?
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I think it works pretty well, too bad they have too much of a Krux sound which I'm not a big fan of. Of Stars and Smoke is a hit song though.
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Apparently some project band called Concept of God, which includes Robert Lowe on vocals, is finally releasing an album after some years of delay. Not sure of the exact style of music it is supposed to be.

Also, Robert Lowe did vocals for a band called Last Chapter on their release The Living Waters.
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I agree, there is something pure about classic doom, and I plan to explore it more in the nearish future.


Re Candlemass: I'm completely blown away by Nightfall each time I listen to it. I want to get the band's Ancient Dreams and Tales of Creation albums as well, though I've heard that they pale in comparison to the first two.
Re Cathedral: I listened to Forest of Equilibrium and found it really underwhelming and bland for the most part. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Nah, you're not missing anything that album is really boring. They really did their best work as a stoner outfit.

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