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February 11th, 2008, 02:04 PM
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Not even close to a Nu-Metal band. They're just metal. I love them, and still to this day, there is nothing that gets the pit moving more than a Pantera cover.
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...and I don't consider them nu-metal either. They are some kinda tough-guy metal. They seem more closely related to hardcore than metal in some ways, and I think they helped encourage the whole 90's HC movement to some degree, though never really being a HC band. They were one of the few metal bands that the media was aware of at the time. That along with simple, easy to digest tunes made them the metal band of the 90's...just about by default.
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February 11th, 2008, 02:11 PM
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I just don't care for Pantera other than a select few songs.
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February 11th, 2008, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AchrisK
...and I don't consider them nu-metal either. They are some kinda tough-guy metal. They seem more closely related to hardcore than metal in some ways, and I think they helped encourage the whole 90's HC movement to some degree, though never really being a HC band. They were one of the few metal bands that the media was aware of at the time. That along with simple, easy to digest tunes made them the metal band of the 90's...just about by default.
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HC??? dude, pantera was a jazz metal band that reinvented the way of metal and influenced many horrible bands, but they (pantera) were great at all |
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February 11th, 2008, 04:27 PM
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Wass sappening?
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Jazz metal? What?
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Originally Posted by Orion Crystal Ice
I live in America, if you don't want to speak American you can go back to your cave in Afghanistan with your liberal terrorist buddies.
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February 11th, 2008, 04:37 PM
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Yep, jazz metal! Dimebag had a strong influence from jazz. Just pay attention to the solos and most of the riffs. And what i could say about Vinnie Paul? he was the best drummer of heavy metal for a moment, and he had been chosen the best by the Modern Drummer Magazine.
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February 11th, 2008, 04:41 PM
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Wass sappening?
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Every guitar player in metal is heavily influenced by jazz and blues.
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Originally Posted by Orion Crystal Ice
I live in America, if you don't want to speak American you can go back to your cave in Afghanistan with your liberal terrorist buddies.
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February 11th, 2008, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ender Rises
Every guitar player in metal is heavily influenced by jazz and blues.
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February 11th, 2008, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AchrisK
...and I don't consider them nu-metal either. They are some kinda tough-guy metal. They seem more closely related to hardcore than metal in some ways, and I think they helped encourage the whole 90's HC movement to some degree, though never really being a HC band. They were one of the few metal bands that the media was aware of at the time. That along with simple, easy to digest tunes made them the metal band of the 90's...just about by default.
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Agreed.
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Finally, someone with some sensible erototheistic observations.
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February 11th, 2008, 06:12 PM
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Yep. Everybody can see how B. B. King has influenced bands like Exhumed and Enthroned |
The way in which metal guitar players play the guitar, create riffs and solos, and look at the guitar in general was done by jazz and blues before metal was ever a genre. Except for perhaps back metal, everything in metal has been done by jazz and blues guitar players, just in a different way.
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I live in America, if you don't want to speak American you can go back to your cave in Afghanistan with your liberal terrorist buddies.
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February 11th, 2008, 06:21 PM
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Off the top of my head:
Overkill (a few so-so releases but none I would call bad)
Sodom
Tankard
Death
Morbid Angel
Nevermore
Vader
Agent Steel
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February 11th, 2008, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrashMetalAddict
Off the top of my head:
Overkill (a few so-so releases but none I would call bad)
Sodom
Tankard
Death
Morbid Angel
Nevermore
Vader
Agent Steel
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Not being a dick but incase you were yet to notice, you can edit posts. :> I'd agree on some of those bands but Morbid Angel and Sodom? =p
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February 11th, 2008, 06:54 PM
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Sodom has been mediocre since Agent Orange.
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February 11th, 2008, 07:37 PM
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Not being a dick but incase you were yet to notice, you can edit posts. :> I'd agree on some of those bands but Morbid Angel and Sodom? =p
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Yeah, not sure what happened on the double post. Anyway, yes, I have all of MA and Sodom's stuff and although I have my preferences I enjoy em all. |
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February 11th, 2008, 07:50 PM
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February 11th, 2008, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ObscureInfinity
Sodom has been mediocre since Agent Orange.
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M16 was fantastic
But the last one (s/t) was awful
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Anybody who doesn't realize that Manowar is the ultimate pinnacle of heterosexuality has a fundamental misunderstanding of manhood, and possibly of metal as well.
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Interchangeability of thought occurs through the experience of listening thus formulating a change of discern.
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February 12th, 2008, 01:34 AM
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Destroyer 666 will never release a bad one imo
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February 12th, 2008, 03:27 AM
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oh noes itz a opinionn
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Yep, jazz metal! Dimebag had a strong influence from jazz. Just pay attention to the solos and most of the riffs.
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No, just no. Dimebag did not know shit about Jazz. In all his carerr he never even played a Jazz progression. He drew all his influence from Van Halen & Randy Rhoads, which neither one of them played Jazz either. I doubt Dimebag could play Jazz improv if his life depended on it. He was a Rock/Metal guy so I'm sure he could play some Blues, but Jazz is much further up on the evolutionary chain than Blues.
You're clearly wrong this time, my friend. I just wanted to point that out... You're probably joking anyways... So nevamind.
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February 12th, 2008, 04:23 AM
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Testament
Iced Earth
Dungeon
Rotting Christ
Agalloch
that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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February 12th, 2008, 05:19 AM
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Destroyer 666 will never release a bad one imo
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Never say never (although it would be pretty unlikely), but everything they've put out is of exceptional quality.
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February 12th, 2008, 08:08 AM
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We'd all like to pretend Testament never released Low and The Ritual, but they did...
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Originally Posted by Dodens Grav
Anybody who doesn't realize that Manowar is the ultimate pinnacle of heterosexuality has a fundamental misunderstanding of manhood, and possibly of metal as well.
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Interchangeability of thought occurs through the experience of listening thus formulating a change of discern.
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February 12th, 2008, 08:09 AM
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But neither album is THAT bad...
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Originally Posted by Krow
Come on dude, you've been here long enough. You should know how this stuff works. The darkest, assholest tasting beer = the best. Only true metal accepted. Only blackest ov the black coffee accepted. I've noticed pretty much everything on this website is distorted reality from every other human being I've actually came into contact with.
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This line will remain until Corrosion of Conformity (with Pepper) releases another album (4/15/08; amended 12/7/10)
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February 12th, 2008, 02:12 PM
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No, just no. Dimebag did not know shit about Jazz. In all his carerr he never even played a Jazz progression. He drew all his influence from Van Halen & Randy Rhoads, which neither one of them played Jazz either. I doubt Dimebag could play Jazz improv if his life depended on it. He was a Rock/Metal guy so I'm sure he could play some Blues, but Jazz is much further up on the evolutionary chain than Blues.
You're clearly wrong this time, my friend. I just wanted to point that out... You're probably joking anyways... So nevamind.
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i agree with what you said about the difference between jazz and blues, but i'm sure that dimebag had a strong influence from jazz, not jazz improv that i call jazz fusion or modern jazz. |
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February 12th, 2008, 06:38 PM
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oh noes itz a opinionn
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We'd all like to pretend Testament never released Low and The Ritual, but they did...
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The Ritual is great! It's their Black Album. Musicians have to eat too, don't hate! Low sucks miserable sweaty donkey bawlz, however. I wish there was some way they could have kept Skolnick... The Gathering was their best album after he left. |
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February 12th, 2008, 06:40 PM
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Low is definitely Testament's worst release. Dog Faced Gods is a killer track though
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Come on dude, you've been here long enough. You should know how this stuff works. The darkest, assholest tasting beer = the best. Only true metal accepted. Only blackest ov the black coffee accepted. I've noticed pretty much everything on this website is distorted reality from every other human being I've actually came into contact with.
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February 12th, 2008, 07:34 PM
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Totally rad.
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So I am the only one who also wasn't too wild about Demonic?
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