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Old March 11th, 2008, 07:53 PM   #51 (permalink)
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If there's a paradigm case of predictability, it's Primordial. Every album I own (the last three) sounds exactly the same. Opens with a killer song, they rape that riff for all it's worth, and then each subsequent song is the same riff but progressively more inferior. Nemtheanga uses the same vocal delivery, with the same semi-spoken pronunciation and emphasis.
The nature of their music allows for that approach to work though
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Old March 11th, 2008, 07:54 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Opeth is the antithesis of a cut and paste band
I do like Opeth to a degree but he's got a point.
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Old March 11th, 2008, 07:57 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Old March 11th, 2008, 08:57 PM   #54 (permalink)
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The nature of their music allows for that approach to work though
My problem is not so much with the approach as with the execution. Repetition only works if you are skilled at building the atmosphere and I'm not feeling it.

You know, I remember hearing the first song on Nameless Dead and thinking "my god, a chorus!" It was a nice change in that Nemtheanga actually put some force into his vocals. But after that, there's little effort into constructing what comes out of his mouth.

Anyway, back to Opeth...
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Old March 11th, 2008, 08:58 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I actually thought it was Jonas from Katatonia jamming out in the background the first minute of the Opeth video...then I realized it was Per. Good shit, I CANNOT wait til June now.
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Old March 11th, 2008, 09:36 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Haven't really become an Opeth fan but the predictability argument is silly. Do you listen to a death metal album and say "Oh they're playing death metal again, how predictable." Mixing in acoustic or soft sections doesn't make it predictable it's just their style.
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Old March 11th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Id rather wait for the album than ruin it with shit bootlegs.
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Old March 11th, 2008, 10:11 PM   #58 (permalink)
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My problem is not so much with the approach as with the execution. Repetition only works if you are skilled at building the atmosphere and I'm not feeling it.

You know, I remember hearing the first song on Nameless Dead and thinking "my god, a chorus!" It was a nice change in that Nemtheanga actually put some force into his vocals. But after that, there's little effort into constructing what comes out of his mouth.

Anyway, back to Opeth...
Fair enough.
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Old March 11th, 2008, 10:16 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Opeth can't decide if they want to be metal or acoustic/soft rock.
They do not go either one way or the other, they do both and have been doing so since their first release. Why do you assume that because of this they are somehow undecided on what style they want to play? That is like saying that Primordial can't decide if they want to use clean vocals or screams in their music because they do both.

As far as predictability goes, yeah they have their own signature style and carry it over from album to album. But guess what, so do a plethora of great artists in every other medium. Artists normally like expressing themselves in whatever medium they work on in a particular way. You have to keep in mind that Mikael has been the brain behind Opeth from the start, so one should not be surprised to see similar elements in all their albums.

But still, while they maintain their signature style, they have been improving upon and expanding it with each release. If you listen to Orchid and to Ghost Reveries and compare them, you'll notice how much broader and eclectic they have become in their sound.
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Id rather wait for the album than ruin it with shit bootlegs.
Me too, I am not listening to it. June is so far...bah.
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