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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:47 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:47 PM   #127 (permalink)
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An all lesbian all female nu-metal band with bangra, country, emo and techno elements that throw turds at their audience and scream about mutilating men with surgical equipment.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:49 PM   #128 (permalink)
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A lot of the popular mondern bands are but not all of it.Something like Buckcherry sounds more like 70s Aerosmith and the Rolling Stones not Nirvana and all thoese bands of their like.Airbourne sounds like they wish they were Ac/Dc.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:49 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:51 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:52 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:53 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:54 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:56 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Ha, Manowar was the future of metal at one point. Then heterosexuality became prominent for awhile.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 06:08 PM   #135 (permalink)
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Ha, Manowar was the future of metal at one point. Then heterosexuality became prominent for awhile.
And then sold their souls to non true metal and Manowar had leave the hall.
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Anybody who doesn't realize that Manowar is the ultimate pinnacle of heterosexuality has a fundamental misunderstanding of manhood, and possibly of metal as well.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 06:13 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Old October 21st, 2009, 06:21 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Anyone who decides to argue that Manowar is even remotely heterosexual isn't.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 06:34 PM   #139 (permalink)
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Yeah, because heterosexuality is about doing heroin and fighting for money and doing various stupid things and then posting about it on the internet.

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Old October 21st, 2009, 06:42 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Okay. I'm still alive and doing well enough, eh?

EDIT: These comments are irritating. I haven't done heroin in 2+ years, I fought at a friends house where there is no chance of legal problems. The house is because I can't find a job NOT due to any of that. So, please, everyone quit being ignorant. K thanks.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 07:24 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Ha, Manowar was the future of metal at one point. Then heterosexuality became prominent for awhile.
Ah, but we are talking about the future, when overpopulation will make homosexuality not just accepted, but fashionable. Then Manowar shall reign supreme again!

But don't forget that, after all, all metal fashion is based off of Rob Halford's favorite gay bondage gear.
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Yeah, because heterosexuality is about doing heroin and fighting for money and doing various stupid things and then posting about it on the internet.

Germans seem to sound more like Borat than like the German accents I remember from war films.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 07:26 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Germans seem to sound more like Borat than like the German accents I remember from war films.
Very funny comment Jageagent.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 07:45 PM   #144 (permalink)
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Lots of power metal bands are gravitating towards a more mainstream lyrical approach though. Look at the recent Nightwish (lots of Nightwish, actually), recent Kamelot, and the recent Avantasia release, with horrible tracks like "Carry Me Over."

The problem with this is, the more power metal moves towards a mainstream sound, the more it just sounds like generic shit (some tracks on the newest Avantasia record sounded like Bon Jovi). And I'm very nervous that Nightwish, sooner or later, is just going to sound like Evanescence.

I definitely think some of the more popular power metal bands are trying to bridge the gap, but I don't think they'll succeed.
The fact that they have to change to become popular proves my point.

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Generalizing much? Some power metal definitely sounds over the top, but there's plenty that's just straightforward and awesome, especially with USPM. *Insert obligatory comment about how slam is also ridiculous and over the top*
What sounds "straightforward and awesome" sounds over the top to others. There are genre elements that preclude it from being really popular. If they get rid of those it stops being power metal and starts being pop music.

I am fully aware that slam is ridiculous and over the top. However I am not arguing that it will be a mainstream success. I like the genre's standards and eccentricities which I'm sure seem absurd and stupid to most mainstream listeners and many metalheads. There's nothing wrong with liking slam death or power metal, it's just delusional to think that a mainstream audience would like them.
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You call it "pretension", I call it "grandiosity". It's not like most of us take all the posturing seriously, any more than I'd take a fantasy novel seriously. It's just escapist, and occasionally poignant (Kamelot's "Forever"; Sonata's "Cage") which is what I look for in music!
If you take a look at what qualities most people like in music, grandiosity is certainly not one of them.
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Ah, but we are talking about the future, when overpopulation will make homosexuality not just accepted, but fashionable. Then Manowar shall reign supreme again!

But don't forget that, after all, all metal fashion is based off of Rob Halford's favorite gay bondage gear.
No, the REAL future is going to make heterosexuality fashionable. So Atreyu will be real metal.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 11:17 PM   #146 (permalink)
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Anybody who doesn't realize that Manowar is the ultimate pinnacle of heterosexuality has a fundamental misunderstanding of manhood, and possibly of metal as well.
This is so fucking true that I will now carry it in my sig.

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What sounds "straightforward and awesome" sounds over the top to others. There are genre elements that preclude it from being really popular. If they get rid of those it stops being power metal and starts being pop music.
You know, you haven't even specified what you're talking about, so this is hard to discuss. What's over the top? The vocals are too high? The music is too symphonic? Too fast? The lyrics are too silly?

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I am fully aware that slam is ridiculous and over the top. However I am not arguing that it will be a mainstream success. I like the genre's standards and eccentricities which I'm sure seem absurd and stupid to most mainstream listeners and many metalheads. There's nothing wrong with liking slam death or power metal, it's just delusional to think that a mainstream audience would like them.
I know, that's why I said it was obligatory. And I don't think it's delusional to think power metal could be popular; glam was popular, despite being really over the top.
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I don't know why you say that with such certainty...
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Old October 21st, 2009, 11:59 PM   #147 (permalink)
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Well, you could start by interviewing your peers on their views toward classical music. I'm fairly confident that most of them don't like it.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 12:48 AM   #148 (permalink)
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You know, you haven't even specified what you're talking about, so this is hard to discuss. What's over the top? The vocals are too high? The music is too symphonic? Too fast? The lyrics are too silly?
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I don't know why you say that with such certainty...
Because the majority of people I know don't like grandiose music and most pop music is very simple
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 08:06 AM   #149 (permalink)
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Anybody who doesn't realize that Manowar is the ultimate pinnacle of heterosexuality has a fundamental misunderstanding of manhood, and possibly of metal as well.

See people? Now that's true.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 09:36 AM   #150 (permalink)
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No I did not read that when Dodens posted it thank you for reposting it in your own post so I might have the opportunity to see it again
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