The Second Coming of the Great Political Thread

[Rabid Headbanger]

Yes, but were to drunk to notice any parrallels.

[Life Sucks]

I'm a diehard Democrat, so Clinton/Obama. I can't really decide who is better. However, with Hilary, it would almost be like having Bill back in office (he would surely have a lot of input), and that's definitely a good thing.

[The Ozzman]

More like a bad thing

[Rabid Headbanger]

Sounds like bill gets some hot secretary ass without being under scrutiny...

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Originally Posted by The Ozzman

Besides, the health care system in Canada isn't that much better than the one here.

It's fuckin' awful tbh.

Also the argument about "if you were born in some destitute piece of shit place you wouldn't complain about people taking your money that you work hard for DUHRHRR!!" is ridiculously irrelevant.

Of course societies are going to need a balance of positive and negative rights, though.

[The Ozzman]

I'm pretty sure that whatever class I lived in, I would be pissed if people took the money I worked hard for. V5 is right and if you say that, then you obviously don't have any money that you work hard for.

[MasterOLightning]

Originally Posted by The Ozzman

Yeah, I believe in 'negative' rights if you choose to call them that.

It's not a point of argument. These are definitions used in moral philosophy. Hence the link. I didn't want you to think I was injecting opinion into what negative and positive mean in this context.

I don't understand why people get so upset about being taxed. The government is approximating an equal burden on all people for the myriad of services it provides. Rich people pay a higher percent than poor people, but the goal is to make the sting of (income) taxes equal on all people. They're not picking on you in particular. I don't like like paying taxes and I would rather have that money myself, but taxes are more than a fair price for the quality of life ensured by the government. If you don't want government services you can go live in Sudan.

I'm not going to pat myself on the back for working so hard, and claim that I can put that money to better use than the government. I would probably buy more material things and so would you.

[Rabid Headbanger]

Originally Posted by The Ozzman

I'm pretty sure that whatever class I lived in, I would be pissed if people took the money I worked hard for. V5 is right and if you say that, then you obviously don't have any money that you work hard for.

Enjoy no roads, no parks, no police force, no firefighters and no public schools.

[Catastrophic]

Not American! In my country kazakhstan, we see who can have the best pubic hair.

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Originally Posted by Rabid Headbanger

Enjoy no roads, no parks, no police force, no firefighters and no public schools.

Vast overstatement, foad.