Ultimate Metal Forum  
UltimateMetal.com homeContact UltimateMetal.com
 
Ultimate Metal Zine Ultimate Metal Photo Gallery Ultimate Metal Classifieds Ultimate Metal Link Directory Ultimate Metal Events Ultimate Metal Radio Ultimate Metal Store

Sponsors

Go Back   Ultimate Metal Forum > The Music > General Metal Discussion > GMD Social Forum


Register FAQ Donate Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old January 24th, 2008, 06:44 PM   #101 (permalink)
CAIRATH
Astral Disaster
 
CAIRATH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: R'lyeh
Posts: 2,863
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zephyrus View Post
I'll even argue its superiority to rap/hip-hop. Both genres often have violent/malavolent lyrics, but because metal is focused on the music and rap is focused on the lyrics, those listening to rap are more prone to be influenced by the lyrics.

They'll believe it too, because they see me having a good life and being a model citizen, yet a metalhead. And then they see my sister, whose life nearly drowned in a cesspool of hedonism, a fan of rap/hip-hop.
I think the causal relationship you're implying exists here is very debatable.
CAIRATH is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2008, 06:46 PM   #102 (permalink)
Ender Rises
Drinker of milkshakes
 
Ender Rises's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Back in Funkytown for good! Fuck East Texas!
Posts: 9,180
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zephyrus View Post
Yeah that will be one of my main defenses. I'll even argue its superiority to rap/hip-hop. Both genres often have violent/malavolent lyrics, but because metal is focused on the music and rap is focused on the lyrics, those listening to rap are more prone to be influenced by the lyrics.
But metal can have good lyrics... rap can't have good music.
__________________
Walking in familiar places to find my way back home.

Myspace YouTube Facebook Last FM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Killbot View Post
I always read No Smoking signs as Nosmo King. I want to meet Nosmo King.
Ender Rises is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2008, 06:49 PM   #103 (permalink)
The Ozzman
0-1
 
The Ozzman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 14,010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender Rises View Post
But metal can have good lyrics... rap can't have good music.
I disagree with this statement.
__________________
Amplitude-X: The social forum to end all social forums
Facebook || MySpace
RYM (Updated 09/06/08) || Books (Updated 8/29/08) || Movies (Updated (8/29/08)
This line will remain until Corrosion of Conformity releases another album (4/15/08)
The Ozzman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2008, 06:52 PM   #104 (permalink)
The Ozzman
0-1
 
The Ozzman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 14,010
Well, I would agree with the type of rap you may hear in clubs, but even most rap aficionados wouldn't consider that rap at all.

Good rap lies in stuff like older Dr. Dre, older Wu-Tang Clan, Ice-T, etc.

I don't have much rap in my collection, but I know that good rap exists.
__________________
Amplitude-X: The social forum to end all social forums
Facebook || MySpace
RYM (Updated 09/06/08) || Books (Updated 8/29/08) || Movies (Updated (8/29/08)
This line will remain until Corrosion of Conformity releases another album (4/15/08)
The Ozzman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2008, 07:49 PM   #105 (permalink)
Zephyrus
Limbonic Architect
 
Zephyrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 17,849
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAIRATH View Post
I think the causal relationship you're implying exists here is very debatable.
It's enough to convince them, especially since we share a common hatred for that type of "music". And all the crap my sister listens to is mainstream garbage.

Last edited by Zephyrus : January 25th, 2008 at 06:39 AM.
Zephyrus is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2008, 07:58 PM   #106 (permalink)
Mort Divine
I must burn these halls
 
Mort Divine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Wayne, MI
Posts: 6,858
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender Rises View Post
But metal can have good lyrics... rap can't have good music.
Holy fuck you guys are idiots!

Don't say ANYTHING about rap until you know something about it. God damn.
__________________


Mort Divine is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2008, 10:38 PM   #107 (permalink)
Mathiäs
Fista Corps
 
Mathiäs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The house, the street, the room
Posts: 15,240
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Divine View Post
Holy fuck you guys are idiots!

Don't say ANYTHING about rap until you know something about it. God damn.
Yeah, that pisses me off. I'm not a fan of rap but blanket statements like that are completely retarded. Same with emo.
Mathiäs is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2008, 10:50 PM   #108 (permalink)
S<issors
wins.
 
S<issors's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,296
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathiäs View Post
Blanket statements like that are completely retarded. Same with emo.
Indeed, like blanket statements, emo is completely retarded.

__________________
S<issors is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2008, 11:04 PM   #109 (permalink)
NinjaGeek
Senior Member
 
NinjaGeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 954
Quote:
Originally Posted by S<issors View Post
Indeed, like blanket statements, emo is completely retarded.

I see what you did there
__________________
"I was eighteen months old," he said dreamily. "I slept in my parents' room and I saw them making love. I saw her give my father a hand job and I said, 'I can do better than that,' so I gave him a blow job. It's hard the first time you get caught," he continued , "but you just agree with them and say, 'Yes, I'm eating my father. He likes it. It's a good thing to do.' Then they leave you alone." -Maurice Nouvelle, The Dinosaur Man
NinjaGeek is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2008, 11:05 PM   #110 (permalink)
V.V.V.V.V.
Houses Ov Mercury
 
V.V.V.V.V.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Encased Within A Mile-Deep Pit Of Feces (or, Lowell, MA)
Posts: 18,376
Listen to Envy then tell me emo is retarded tbh
__________________



Recent Purchases

V.V.V.V.V. is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote