The Discouraged Ones

Overlord Purple Rainbow · June 5th, 2004, 10:12 PM

I still have the three Katatonia CD's that I bought awhile back...

DANCE OF DECEMBER SOULS, TONIGHT'S DECISION, and VIVA EMPTINESS.

All are, in my opinion, great, great albums. And I need more!

I do want to get the double CD that collects all of the early EP's and songs from the 'old' Katatonia material. But there are only two albums from the 'new' Katatonia that I want to get. So I went to the Official site and sampled some of the tracks from LAST FAIR DEAL GONE DOWN and THE DISCOURAGED ONES. And of the two, I was blown away by the samples from THE DISCOURAGED ONES. Especially the opening track.

Is this CD as good as the samples make it out to be?

Thanks!

wankerness · June 6th, 2004, 02:33 AM

In my opinion, Last Fair Deal Gone Down is much better...the samples on the site are of Teargas and Tonight's Music, right? Teargas just...isn't that impressive, it's kind of poppy, so don't let the samples convince you that the album's all like that. Anyway, that cd has A LOT more variety than Discouraged Ones, and I think it's much better. Discouraged Ones is probably their most depressing-sounding album...it's very, very mournful, and most of the vocals sound like they're sighed and way off in the background. It's got some really incredible songs (like deadhouse and saw you drown), but I think it's kind of repetitive. If you liked the samples from it, though, you'll probably like the whole thing, and therefore it might be a safer buy.

HOWEVER, YOU NEED BOTH SOONER OR LATER!

Lord_AgathoN · June 6th, 2004, 04:29 AM

Iam not the same Opinion then wankerness.I would get Discouraged Ones. Actually it was my first Katatonia Cd..........and i was really blown away by the the mood on that album (it was in my "iam 16 and i want to die phase" of life ;-P). Last Fair Deal Gone Down IS poppy an is not filled with such a depression that discouraged ones has. And really............tracks like: IBreak, Deadhouse, Coldways and the masterpiece SawYouDrown mean really alot to me.
But Katatonia is often all about that album you listen first, when you are starting a "relationship" with the bands music. Katatonia has changed their style so often (even if its just small things like when u compare lfdgd and discouraged ones), that its possible that you hear one cd and u love it........but hate all the others :P

Opaltone · June 6th, 2004, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overlord Purple Rainbow

I still have the three Katatonia CD's that I bought awhile back...

DANCE OF DECEMBER SOULS, TONIGHT'S DECISION, and VIVA EMPTINESS.

All are, in my opinion, great, great albums. And I need more!

I do want to get the double CD that collects all of the early EP's and songs from the 'old' Katatonia material. But there are only two albums from the 'new' Katatonia that I want to get. So I went to the Official site and sampled some of the tracks from LAST FAIR DEAL GONE DOWN and THE DISCOURAGED ONES. And of the two, I was blown away by the samples from THE DISCOURAGED ONES. Especially the opening track.

Is this CD as good as the samples make it out to be?

Thanks!

Every Katatonia album is nice but I propose to you to buy last fair deal is going down.

Cerulean · June 6th, 2004, 09:48 AM

Everyone has a different opinion so don't listen to any of us as we'll all recommend something different. If possible, buy everything, if not, read descriptions of how the albums sound and listen to samples to get a general idea. DO is my favourite though. Yes, it's repetitive, but that's not always a bad thing, it's just "katatonic". It represents the name in my opinion.

daimonion · June 6th, 2004, 10:33 AM

You should get both. I think LFDGD is the best of those two, but DO is really good too.

Demonspell · June 6th, 2004, 10:42 AM

I agree with everyone else, get both of them...especially since you can't estimate the quality of a Katatonia album from pieces of one or two songs...

trigger · June 6th, 2004, 01:09 PM

As everyone already said, both albums are incredible. I like LFDGD a little more, but DO is really really good also.

ZeDzEdZeD · June 6th, 2004, 02:44 PM

Just buy both, DO is my favorite album

and LFDGD comes next

and BMD is third favorite... Looks like You haven't it either

Everything else is less impressive IMHO

Overlord Purple Rainbow · June 6th, 2004, 09:47 PM

Thank you all very much for your input!

pistol_pete · June 7th, 2004, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerulean

DO is my favourite though. Yes, it's repetitive, but that's not always a bad thing, it's just "katatonic". It represents the name in my opinion.

yes i agree totally, my fav album, easily.

[0hr]Sunlapse · June 9th, 2004, 02:36 AM

best 2 Katatonia albums: Brave Murder Day and Discouraged Ones. Get 'em!

Discouraged_Tom · June 9th, 2004, 06:14 AM

Yeah, get Discouraged Ones - I give 3 listens in a row today morning and it's never becomes boring. It must grow in you but it's worthy to spend much time hearing it!

Epistel · June 13th, 2004, 07:19 AM

it will be worth to buy the both..IMMEDIATELY!!!

L0bster · June 13th, 2004, 07:20 PM

Discouraged Ones might be my personal fave, get it.

June 5th, 2004, 10:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Overlord Purple Rainbow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: RainbowLand Posts: 1,767	The Discouraged Ones I still have the three Katatonia CD's that I bought awhile back... DANCE OF DECEMBER SOULS, TONIGHT'S DECISION, and VIVA EMPTINESS. All are, in my opinion, great, great albums. And I need more! I do want to get the double CD that collects all of the early EP's and songs from the 'old' Katatonia material. But there are only two albums from the 'new' Katatonia that I want to get. So I went to the Official site and sampled some of the tracks from LAST FAIR DEAL GONE DOWN and THE DISCOURAGED ONES. And of the two, I was blown away by the samples from THE DISCOURAGED ONES. Especially the opening track. Is this CD as good as the samples make it out to be? Thanks! __________________ "Curse Of The Revenant" On Amazon.com! http://www.amazon.com/Curse-Of-The-R...8171291&sr=1-1 For fans of underground horror!

June 6th, 2004, 04:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lord_AgathoN LIKE FIRE.... Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 385	Iam not the same Opinion then wankerness.I would get Discouraged Ones. Actually it was my first Katatonia Cd..........and i was really blown away by the the mood on that album (it was in my "iam 16 and i want to die phase" of life ;-P). Last Fair Deal Gone Down IS poppy an is not filled with such a depression that discouraged ones has. And really............tracks like: IBreak, Deadhouse, Coldways and the masterpiece SawYouDrown mean really alot to me. But Katatonia is often all about that album you listen first, when you are starting a "relationship" with the bands music. Katatonia has changed their style so often (even if its just small things like when u compare lfdgd and discouraged ones), that its possible that you hear one cd and u love it........but hate all the others :P __________________

June 6th, 2004, 09:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
Cerulean Not very cerulean eh Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Affligem, Belgium Posts: 6,118	Everyone has a different opinion so don't listen to any of us as we'll all recommend something different. If possible, buy everything, if not, read descriptions of how the albums sound and listen to samples to get a general idea. DO is my favourite though. Yes, it's repetitive, but that's not always a bad thing, it's just "katatonic". It represents the name in my opinion. __________________ myspace.com/detoorn myspace.com/kludde

June 6th, 2004, 10:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
Demonspell cheating the polygraph Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: dead between the walls Posts: 15,354	I agree with everyone else, get both of them...especially since you can't estimate the quality of a Katatonia album from pieces of one or two songs... __________________ "There is a concern that the Internet could be used to commit crimes and that advanced encryption could disguise such activity. However, we do not provide the government with phone jacks outside our homes for unlimited wiretaps. Why, then, should we grant government the Orwellian capability to listen at will and in real time to our communications across the Web?"" -- JOHN ASHCROFT, as a U.S. senator, from his Aug. 12, 1997 op-ed piece in the Washington Times, "Welcoming Big Brother."

June 6th, 2004, 02:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
ZeDzEdZeD dispassion player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 397	Just buy both, DO is my favorite album and LFDGD comes next and BMD is third favorite... Looks like You haven't it either Everything else is less impressive IMHO __________________ __________________________________________ www.ecthalion.com www.myspace.com/ecthalion www.estonianmetal.com __________________________________________ Last edited by ZeDzEdZeD : June 15th, 2004 at 12:48 AM.

June 6th, 2004, 02:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
wankerness Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,656	In my opinion, Last Fair Deal Gone Down is much better...the samples on the site are of Teargas and Tonight's Music, right? Teargas just...isn't that impressive, it's kind of poppy, so don't let the samples convince you that the album's all like that. Anyway, that cd has A LOT more variety than Discouraged Ones, and I think it's much better. Discouraged Ones is probably their most depressing-sounding album...it's very, very mournful, and most of the vocals sound like they're sighed and way off in the background. It's got some really incredible songs (like deadhouse and saw you drown), but I think it's kind of repetitive. If you liked the samples from it, though, you'll probably like the whole thing, and therefore it might be a safer buy. HOWEVER, YOU NEED BOTH SOONER OR LATER!

June 6th, 2004, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
daimonion Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 720	You should get both. I think LFDGD is the best of those two, but DO is really good too.

June 6th, 2004, 01:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
trigger Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5	As everyone already said, both albums are incredible. I like LFDGD a little more, but DO is really really good also.

June 6th, 2004, 09:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
Overlord Purple Rainbow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: RainbowLand Posts: 1,767	Thank you all very much for your input! __________________ "Curse Of The Revenant" On Amazon.com! http://www.amazon.com/Curse-Of-The-R...8171291&sr=1-1 For fans of underground horror!

June 9th, 2004, 02:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
[0hr]Sunlapse Wraith Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rumson, NJ Posts: 7,009	best 2 Katatonia albums: Brave Murder Day and Discouraged Ones. Get 'em! __________________ -27000-

June 9th, 2004, 06:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
Discouraged_Tom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 233	Yeah, get Discouraged Ones - I give 3 listens in a row today morning and it's never becomes boring. It must grow in you but it's worthy to spend much time hearing it! __________________

June 13th, 2004, 07:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
Epistel expecting not to be Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: monuments of dreamless rains Posts: 74	it will be worth to buy the both..IMMEDIATELY!!! __________________ A thin, nameless noise among all the others Howling in the empty dark room

June 13th, 2004, 07:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
L0bster OneTwo! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,188	Discouraged Ones might be my personal fave, get it. __________________ " oh, when it's good it's great when it's bad it's still ok "