Most anticipated - 2008 - Page 6

MadTinus · December 7th, 2007, 07:35 AM

In Absentia is the best starting point i.m.o.

Qth · December 7th, 2007, 09:08 AM

I do not agree.

MadTinus · December 7th, 2007, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qth

I do not agree.

FoaBP is also definitely a good starting point, but IA has some 'catchy' songs that are easier to get into I would say. Also if you look at the "what album got you into PT" poll on the PT board, IA is the winner by miles.

Qth · December 7th, 2007, 09:28 AM

I think you are a liar.

No but seriously. I know IA might be their most popular, but going by the votes on the PT-forum, is that really reliable in this case? Arent most PT fans coming from the softer side of the music-universe? I came from the other side and could not get into either IA nor Deadwing, FoaBP got me hooked.
Looks like Season likes Katatonia and Anathema, from that perspective i would recommend FoaBP first.

Belligerent · December 7th, 2007, 05:02 PM

If you're looking for Porcupine Tree on good acid try: The Sky Moves Sideways or Voyage 34.
Otherwise I'd say FOABP is a good starting point. They have been getting heavier as time goes on. Deadwing has some heavy moments and FOABP is even heavier.

I'd recommend their live album "Coma Divine" . It's absolutely stunning and probably my favorite live album of all time. No exaggeration. Great production, deep tracks from their early work that fail to get mentioned, it's a must have.

nesveikuolis · December 7th, 2007, 05:26 PM

Bloodbath (I hope)
Katatonia
Opeth
NIN
D.A.R

BlueSky · December 7th, 2007, 05:45 PM

It's true they got heavier on in absentia, but the amount of heaviness is relatively comprable since. FoaBP has softer songs like my ashes, and sentimental so it still has DYNAMICS from softer to heavier, which is the most important thing about a cd(not just heaviness.) There's not one song on here that rises above the heaviness of the past two releases, and if you were looking for darker heavier moments then In Absentia goes to their most extremes at times. I don't know why this should be a subject because this is just a small aspect of what makes the music good. I think FoaBP is a great release because it has the best production(their fullest yet is what I think people mean to say) the songs are solid, and the most progressive(since older records) longer songs without feeling drawn out, very catchy(in-fact I find this to be their catchiest release yet), and it's still a very dark album. But I think a fan of katatonia, and anathema will most certainly like In Absentia the best. So I'd say go with In Absentia then FoaBP.

Belligerent · December 7th, 2007, 05:51 PM

^ Well said.
I say try ANY of their albums and you will not be disappointed. Initially it's hard to get people into PT if they try to compare them to other bands. Personally I'd say they are the most innovative band I've ever heard. I can't name another band that incorporates 70's Prog, Techno, Metal, Jazz, and Rock so effortlessly.

Hobo · December 8th, 2007, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belligerent

I can't name another band that incorporates 70's Prog, Techno, Metal, Jazz, and Rock so effortlessly.

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum?

I think i am the only one who cant really get in to PT..
Deadwing was ok, and tehy have a few good songs other than that (sound of muzak is awesome) but mostly... they are good, but still bore me.

Peachy · December 8th, 2007, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobo

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum?

I think i am the only one who cant really get in to PT..

Don't worry, I can't either. In Absentia has a few songs, in fact one song in particular I really like, but other than that, meh. (and I do like SGM too).

Qth · December 8th, 2007, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueSky

It's true they got heavier on in absentia, but the amount of heaviness is relatively comprable since. FoaBP has softer songs like my ashes, and sentimental so it still has DYNAMICS from softer to heavier, which is the most important thing about a cd(not just heaviness.) There's not one song on here that rises above the heaviness of the past two releases, and if you were looking for darker heavier moments then In Absentia goes to their most extremes at times. I don't know why this should be a subject because this is just a small aspect of what makes the music good. I think FoaBP is a great release because it has the best production(their fullest yet is what I think people mean to say) the songs are solid, and the most progressive(since older records) longer songs without feeling drawn out, very catchy(in-fact I find this to be their catchiest release yet), and it's still a very dark album. But I think a fan of katatonia, and anathema will most certainly like In Absentia the best. So I'd say go with In Absentia then FoaBP.

This is almost the oposite of what i think.

I think IA is more dark and twisted, but not heavier.
The heavy parts in FoaBP is much heavier than any part on IA imo.
Dont you just love how tastes differ.

Qth · December 8th, 2007, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peachy

Don't worry, I can't either. In Absentia has a few songs, in fact one song in particular I really like, but other than that, meh. (and I do like SGM too).

Trains?

Dead Children Speak No Lies · December 8th, 2007, 06:00 AM

Britney Spears - damn she's 'heavy'.

BlueSky · December 8th, 2007, 06:02 AM

I don't really see how anything they've done is heavier then the slow grinding end of strip the soul, but to each his own.

Peachy · December 8th, 2007, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qth

Trains?

Actually Strip the Soul, though Trains is pretty good.

stefan86 · December 8th, 2007, 10:01 AM

In terms of heavy/light dynamics, Way Out of Here is definitely PT's winner to me

LifeDepraved · December 8th, 2007, 10:32 AM

New Havohej next year! Anyone here into Havohej/Profanatica?

stefan86 · December 8th, 2007, 10:34 AM

Havohej sounds like a drunken icelandic sailor from 1340

Phoenix5 · December 8th, 2007, 10:56 AM

I like how 2 threads have become almost entirely dedicated to PT conversation haha.

Belligerent · December 8th, 2007, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefan86

In terms of heavy/light dynamics, Way Out of Here is definitely PT's winner to me

Best song on the album.

stefan86 · December 8th, 2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belligerent

Best song on the album.

By far

Qth · December 8th, 2007, 08:59 PM

Its hard to pick the best but Anesthetize really gives me the kicks. It was amazing live too.

stefan86 · December 9th, 2007, 07:02 AM

I'd say its like this:

1. Way Out of Here
2. Anesthetize
3. Fear of A Blank Planet
4. My Ashes
5. Sleep Together
6. Sentimental

I do love all the songs though

MadTinus · December 9th, 2007, 07:27 AM

For me it would be:

1. FoaBP, Anesthetize, Sentimental, Sleep Together
5. Way Out Of Here
6. My Ashes

stefan86 · December 9th, 2007, 07:29 AM

Gotta love making lists of things, never gets old actually

December 7th, 2007, 07:35 AM	#126 (permalink)
MadTinus Spelling/language nazi Join Date: May 2002 Location: Utrecht, Netherlands Posts: 8,438	In Absentia is the best starting point i.m.o. __________________ My music collection @ Discogs Played last week @ Last.fm:

December 7th, 2007, 09:08 AM	#127 (permalink)
Qth Treasonous Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Above the Sun Posts: 6,815	I do not agree. __________________ Last.fm

December 7th, 2007, 09:28 AM	#129 (permalink)
Qth Treasonous Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Above the Sun Posts: 6,815	I think you are a liar. No but seriously. I know IA might be their most popular, but going by the votes on the PT-forum, is that really reliable in this case? Arent most PT fans coming from the softer side of the music-universe? I came from the other side and could not get into either IA nor Deadwing, FoaBP got me hooked. Looks like Season likes Katatonia and Anathema, from that perspective i would recommend FoaBP first. __________________ Last.fm

December 8th, 2007, 06:02 AM	#139 (permalink)
BlueSky Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,339	I don't really see how anything they've done is heavier then the slow grinding end of strip the soul, but to each his own. Last edited by BlueSky : December 8th, 2007 at 06:20 AM.

December 8th, 2007, 10:01 AM	#141 (permalink)
stefan86 invariably off-topic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 42,508	In terms of heavy/light dynamics, Way Out of Here is definitely PT's winner to me __________________ Desolator (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/DesolatorSwe?ref=ts Ending Quest (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ending...46404308776819 Soliloquium (Death/Doom Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Solilo...36215949804095

December 7th, 2007, 05:45 PM	#132 (permalink)
BlueSky Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,339	It's true they got heavier on in absentia, but the amount of heaviness is relatively comprable since. FoaBP has softer songs like my ashes, and sentimental so it still has DYNAMICS from softer to heavier, which is the most important thing about a cd(not just heaviness.) There's not one song on here that rises above the heaviness of the past two releases, and if you were looking for darker heavier moments then In Absentia goes to their most extremes at times. I don't know why this should be a subject because this is just a small aspect of what makes the music good. I think FoaBP is a great release because it has the best production(their fullest yet is what I think people mean to say) the songs are solid, and the most progressive(since older records) longer songs without feeling drawn out, very catchy(in-fact I find this to be their catchiest release yet), and it's still a very dark album. But I think a fan of katatonia, and anathema will most certainly like In Absentia the best. So I'd say go with In Absentia then FoaBP.

December 8th, 2007, 06:00 AM	#138 (permalink)
Dead Children Speak No Lies Westie Headbanger Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 164	Britney Spears - damn she's 'heavy'.

December 8th, 2007, 10:32 AM	#142 (permalink)
LifeDepraved My soul got a crack Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 6,959	New Havohej next year! Anyone here into Havohej/Profanatica? __________________ "Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is THE BEST." -Frank Zappa

December 8th, 2007, 10:34 AM	#143 (permalink)
stefan86 invariably off-topic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 42,508	Havohej sounds like a drunken icelandic sailor from 1340 __________________ Desolator (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/DesolatorSwe?ref=ts Ending Quest (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ending...46404308776819 Soliloquium (Death/Doom Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Solilo...36215949804095

December 8th, 2007, 10:56 AM	#144 (permalink)
Phoenix5 d3v4s7a710n Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 3,891	I like how 2 threads have become almost entirely dedicated to PT conversation haha.

December 8th, 2007, 08:59 PM	#147 (permalink)
Qth Treasonous Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Above the Sun Posts: 6,815	Its hard to pick the best but Anesthetize really gives me the kicks. It was amazing live too. __________________ Last.fm

December 9th, 2007, 07:02 AM	#148 (permalink)
stefan86 invariably off-topic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 42,508	I'd say its like this: 1. Way Out of Here 2. Anesthetize 3. Fear of A Blank Planet 4. My Ashes 5. Sleep Together 6. Sentimental I do love all the songs though __________________ Desolator (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/DesolatorSwe?ref=ts Ending Quest (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ending...46404308776819 Soliloquium (Death/Doom Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Solilo...36215949804095

December 9th, 2007, 07:27 AM	#149 (permalink)
MadTinus Spelling/language nazi Join Date: May 2002 Location: Utrecht, Netherlands Posts: 8,438	For me it would be: 1. FoaBP, Anesthetize, Sentimental, Sleep Together 5. Way Out Of Here 6. My Ashes __________________ My music collection @ Discogs Played last week @ Last.fm:

December 9th, 2007, 07:29 AM	#150 (permalink)
stefan86 invariably off-topic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 42,508	Gotta love making lists of things, never gets old actually __________________ Desolator (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/DesolatorSwe?ref=ts Ending Quest (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ending...46404308776819 Soliloquium (Death/Doom Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Solilo...36215949804095