next katatonia album - Page 13

Bleak Eyes · October 21st, 2008, 11:27 AM

I do not see how Steven would help a Katatonia album. They seem to do well enough themselves.

affinityband · October 21st, 2008, 11:58 AM

if wilson took the production chair they would be bigger than lacuna coil

OminousInane · October 21st, 2008, 01:23 PM

It would definetly bring A LOT more attention Katatonia's way.

daimonion · October 21st, 2008, 01:49 PM

This seems about right. Anders or Jonas mentioned that they had been considering doing something in the vain of Unfurl, and that particular song has some of that dreamy sound that Steven Wilson seem to enjoy.

If Katatonia are going in a new direction - witch it seems that they will - this could very well work. I don't think SW could have made TGCD better, but maybe this Unfurly album possibillity would work with him.

stefan86 · October 21st, 2008, 02:13 PM

I wouldn't want a full calm album though. A couple of songs like Unfurl would be cool, but I really prefer heavier stuff.

OminousInane · October 21st, 2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stefan86

I wouldn't want a full calm album though. A couple of songs like Unfurl would be cool, but I really prefer heavier stuff.

Me too, it would be too much of a departure. You have to imagine they will have at least a couple calm tunes like Unfurl though. Seeing that everyones reaction to that song was insanely positive. The fact that Jonas says he doesn't like that song probably means they won't go all out in that direction.

daimonion · October 21st, 2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OminousInane

The fact that Jonas says he doesn't like that song probably means they won't go all out in that direction.

Really? He even made it.

OminousInane · October 21st, 2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by daimonion

Really? He even made it.

I know but on this forum I believe, he said that he doesn't understand why everyone thinks Unfurl is so amazing (he's crazy

).

stefan86 · October 21st, 2008, 04:05 PM

That's crazy considering how good the song is, but positive in terms of the next album's direction

MadTinus · October 21st, 2008, 04:07 PM

Cool interview, I said it before in this thread, but I think Wilson + Katatonia is AT LEAST a very interesting combination, I would support this collaboration 100%. I would love to hear some experimental Katatonia stuff. And I'm absolutely sure Katatonia would not let Wilson send them in a direction they don't want to go and I'm also sure Wilson wouldn't want to touch Katatonia's indentity, he's a fan of the band himself.

Kitiini · October 21st, 2008, 04:25 PM

Im have a bit negative feelings about Steven Wilson coming as the producer like I have said before at that one thread where we discussed about his work with Opeth. But definetly I'd like some songs like Unfurl since I like that song so fucking much, prolly my favourite atm. Im kinda sure (eventho cant never be totally sure) that Katatonia's next album will be very heavy oriented with some calmer additions.

Well we can never know for sure, I guess theres nothing more we can do than just guessing what it will be like until it really comes out. Man Im hungry for some new Katatonia!!

Vincent J. · October 21st, 2008, 04:36 PM

Yeah, nobody should worry about mr. Wilson producing a Katatonia album, 'cause a producer is only there to get the band's best performance... and in the "worst" case he comes with ideas about the music, but the band obviously has the right of veto over that. So it can really only turn out more positive/productive etc.

MadTinus · October 21st, 2008, 04:48 PM

Exactemundo sir!

OminousInane · October 21st, 2008, 04:54 PM

Vincent nailed it on the head. Waiting for records you really care about is such a drag lol, at least until all the secrets start to come out.

Bleak Eyes · October 21st, 2008, 05:58 PM

As long as he only produces and does not do vocals like he did on every Opeth album that he produced. I love Steven's work; I just really would not want to hear his voice in Katatonia.

daimonion · October 21st, 2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleak Eyes

As long as he only produces and does not do vocals like he did on every Opeth album that he produced. I love Steven's work; I just really would not want to hear his voice in Katatonia.

Uuuh, what a horrible thought, actually. And i like his voice, but it would be just soo wrong on a Katatonia album.

Sdob · October 21st, 2008, 06:42 PM

Yeah, Wilson better not sing a note haha.
It would definitely not flow well with Katatonia.

OminousInane · October 21st, 2008, 07:45 PM

Unless he does harsh vocals, that would own haha j/k

MadTinus · October 22nd, 2008, 03:51 AM

Even if he would sing, I wouldn't say it would not fit per se. And he doesn't sing on every release he produces, so no reason to assume he would on a Katatonia album.

Luce · October 22nd, 2008, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent J.

Yeah, nobody should worry about mr. Wilson producing a Katatonia album, 'cause a producer is only there to get the band's best performance... and in the "worst" case he comes with ideas about the music, but the band obviously has the right of veto over that. So it can really only turn out more positive/productive etc.

that's true i think that he has always done a good job with opeth, so i want to be positive about the new realase..i think he will never going to change their musical direction maybe increase it!!!it all dipends but their ideas, so i think it could be a good direction only i still hoping as you that they wouldn't do a LP full of Unfurl, what makes the last album so good for me was the right balance between heavy pieces and melodic stuffs, so i really hope they still to walk in that direction!

Vincent J. · October 22nd, 2008, 07:24 AM

I really can take any change. I even applaud BIG changes. For example an album full of Unfurl kind of stuff. As long as it is put together nicely and it isn't the same song over and over.
I'm not saying it's likely that this is going to happen, but I'm saying that I like it when a band dares to take a (big) turn in their music to keep it original. It can't go wrong as long as it is a heartfelt turn, and Katatonia are really writing heartfelt music, so that'll be alright

off_beat · October 22nd, 2008, 11:58 AM

I agree with Vincent. How about a cvlt experimental mellow/ambient album that noone will know where it came from and where it will go? No past and no future, just a mysterious 5-6-tracked EP, in their discographys middle of nowhere with controversal criticisms and only few comments about it from the band. And one year later another full release TGCD style (heavier easier and mainstream-ier).

InsaneKat · October 22nd, 2008, 04:13 PM

I think Steven Wilson does great work. SW producing a Katatonia album would be quite awesome, but I'm sure it'd be awesome anyways, though him being the producer might just be a bonus. Either way I can't wait.

As for him producing a Tool album I'd like to see that too since I'm a huge Tool fan but I don't see it happening either.

Lisra · October 22nd, 2008, 04:33 PM

I've never seen the point in Tool (well, my GF got me into Vicarious but that's the only song really) and Wilson probably couldn't change that.

I don't care who produces katas next effort, I just want it xD

daimonion · October 22nd, 2008, 05:24 PM

Vicarious is almost the definition of Tool stylewise. So you should very well be able to enjoy most of their stuff.

October 21st, 2008, 11:27 AM	#301 (permalink)
Bleak Eyes Irrelevant Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,628	I do not see how Steven would help a Katatonia album. They seem to do well enough themselves. __________________ Last.Fm

October 21st, 2008, 11:58 AM	#302 (permalink)
affinityband Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brackley, England Posts: 5,457	if wilson took the production chair they would be bigger than lacuna coil __________________ www.nuelle.co.uk myspace.com/nuelledesign

October 21st, 2008, 02:13 PM	#305 (permalink)
stefan86 invariably off-topic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 42,512	I wouldn't want a full calm album though. A couple of songs like Unfurl would be cool, but I really prefer heavier stuff. __________________ Desolator (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/DesolatorSwe?ref=ts Ending Quest (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ending...46404308776819 Soliloquium (Death/Doom Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Solilo...36215949804095

October 21st, 2008, 04:05 PM	#309 (permalink)
stefan86 invariably off-topic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 42,512	That's crazy considering how good the song is, but positive in terms of the next album's direction __________________ Desolator (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/DesolatorSwe?ref=ts Ending Quest (Swedish Old School Death Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ending...46404308776819 Soliloquium (Death/Doom Metal): http://www.facebook.com/pages/Solilo...36215949804095

October 21st, 2008, 04:07 PM	#310 (permalink)
MadTinus Spelling/language nazi Join Date: May 2002 Location: Utrecht, Netherlands Posts: 8,438	Cool interview, I said it before in this thread, but I think Wilson + Katatonia is AT LEAST a very interesting combination, I would support this collaboration 100%. I would love to hear some experimental Katatonia stuff. And I'm absolutely sure Katatonia would not let Wilson send them in a direction they don't want to go and I'm also sure Wilson wouldn't want to touch Katatonia's indentity, he's a fan of the band himself. __________________ My music collection @ Discogs Played last week @ Last.fm:

October 21st, 2008, 01:23 PM	#303 (permalink)
OminousInane Like Glass... Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: United States Posts: 615	It would definetly bring A LOT more attention Katatonia's way.

October 21st, 2008, 01:49 PM	#304 (permalink)
daimonion Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 720	This seems about right. Anders or Jonas mentioned that they had been considering doing something in the vain of Unfurl, and that particular song has some of that dreamy sound that Steven Wilson seem to enjoy. If Katatonia are going in a new direction - witch it seems that they will - this could very well work. I don't think SW could have made TGCD better, but maybe this Unfurly album possibillity would work with him.

October 21st, 2008, 04:25 PM	#311 (permalink)
Kitiini Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 435	Im have a bit negative feelings about Steven Wilson coming as the producer like I have said before at that one thread where we discussed about his work with Opeth. But definetly I'd like some songs like Unfurl since I like that song so fucking much, prolly my favourite atm. Im kinda sure (eventho cant never be totally sure) that Katatonia's next album will be very heavy oriented with some calmer additions. Well we can never know for sure, I guess theres nothing more we can do than just guessing what it will be like until it really comes out. Man Im hungry for some new Katatonia!! __________________

October 21st, 2008, 04:36 PM	#312 (permalink)
Vincent J. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Arnhem, The Netherlands Posts: 3,025	Yeah, nobody should worry about mr. Wilson producing a Katatonia album, 'cause a producer is only there to get the band's best performance... and in the "worst" case he comes with ideas about the music, but the band obviously has the right of veto over that. So it can really only turn out more positive/productive etc.

October 21st, 2008, 04:48 PM	#313 (permalink)
MadTinus Spelling/language nazi Join Date: May 2002 Location: Utrecht, Netherlands Posts: 8,438	Exactemundo sir! __________________ My music collection @ Discogs Played last week @ Last.fm:

October 21st, 2008, 04:54 PM	#314 (permalink)
OminousInane Like Glass... Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: United States Posts: 615	Vincent nailed it on the head. Waiting for records you really care about is such a drag lol, at least until all the secrets start to come out.

October 21st, 2008, 05:58 PM	#315 (permalink)
Bleak Eyes Irrelevant Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,628	As long as he only produces and does not do vocals like he did on every Opeth album that he produced. I love Steven's work; I just really would not want to hear his voice in Katatonia. __________________ Last.Fm

October 21st, 2008, 06:42 PM	#317 (permalink)
Sdob Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 203	Yeah, Wilson better not sing a note haha. It would definitely not flow well with Katatonia.

October 21st, 2008, 07:45 PM	#318 (permalink)
OminousInane Like Glass... Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: United States Posts: 615	Unless he does harsh vocals, that would own haha j/k

October 22nd, 2008, 03:51 AM	#319 (permalink)
MadTinus Spelling/language nazi Join Date: May 2002 Location: Utrecht, Netherlands Posts: 8,438	Even if he would sing, I wouldn't say it would not fit per se. And he doesn't sing on every release he produces, so no reason to assume he would on a Katatonia album. __________________ My music collection @ Discogs Played last week @ Last.fm:

October 22nd, 2008, 07:24 AM	#321 (permalink)
Vincent J. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Arnhem, The Netherlands Posts: 3,025	I really can take any change. I even applaud BIG changes. For example an album full of Unfurl kind of stuff. As long as it is put together nicely and it isn't the same song over and over. I'm not saying it's likely that this is going to happen, but I'm saying that I like it when a band dares to take a (big) turn in their music to keep it original. It can't go wrong as long as it is a heartfelt turn, and Katatonia are really writing heartfelt music, so that'll be alright

October 22nd, 2008, 11:58 AM	#322 (permalink)
off_beat Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Athens Posts: 47	I agree with Vincent. How about a cvlt experimental mellow/ambient album that noone will know where it came from and where it will go? No past and no future, just a mysterious 5-6-tracked EP, in their discographys middle of nowhere with controversal criticisms and only few comments about it from the band. And one year later another full release TGCD style (heavier easier and mainstream-ier).

October 22nd, 2008, 04:13 PM	#323 (permalink)
InsaneKat Last Chance To Evacuate.. Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 24	I think Steven Wilson does great work. SW producing a Katatonia album would be quite awesome, but I'm sure it'd be awesome anyways, though him being the producer might just be a bonus. Either way I can't wait. As for him producing a Tool album I'd like to see that too since I'm a huge Tool fan but I don't see it happening either. __________________ If I call will you come and will you save me?

October 22nd, 2008, 04:33 PM	#324 (permalink)
Lisra starlight spectre Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Nijmegen, Netherlands Posts: 2,009	I've never seen the point in Tool (well, my GF got me into Vicarious but that's the only song really) and Wilson probably couldn't change that. I don't care who produces katas next effort, I just want it xD __________________ Don't die for anything less than the best of life albums I actually bought

October 22nd, 2008, 05:24 PM	#325 (permalink)
daimonion Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 720	Vicarious is almost the definition of Tool stylewise. So you should very well be able to enjoy most of their stuff.