Looking for Anders Tone

Ace · February 16th, 2010, 10:28 PM

I play guitar and I was looking to get Anders tone in a Distortion/Overdrive pedal. I know he use to use a Damage Control Demonizerm but I was wondering if anyone knows of another pedal that would get me simular results. I play through a Fender hot rod, with a PRS se Soapbar II.

BlueSky · February 16th, 2010, 10:37 PM

Find your own tone fellow Az'ian.

Ace · February 16th, 2010, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueSky

Find your own tone fellow Az'ian.

I am trying to just get a simular tone, not the same. Plus when I push it through my hot rod, it will not sound like a Matamp at all lol.

Klosure · February 18th, 2010, 04:19 AM

The key to Anders tone is simple.

The Demonizer has little to do with it as he hardly uses it now - I think he said it broke.

Hotrod/Matamp/Marshall/Orange/Mesa all have a character, but its how you set it up that matters. Are you using EMG pickups, thats a must for the chuggy.

Katatonia dont use Matamp as such on the albums they use a mesa for the chuggy stuff. But I have an Orange and with the Demonizer and the orange I can get close, the trick is to get used to the EQ on the amp. Try not to push, pull back first then push gentle and learn how the amp breaks up and at what point it becomes messy.

I do have the demonizer but I can tell you if you are looking for the album tones you don't need to look at the pedal - even though its a good pedal

You need to consider the setup of your amp and you need to understand distortion. If you are the type of guy who puts the gain at 100% this will be your first mistake. Anders talks about how they no longer push the distortion up high (listen to Discouraged ones and you can hear the distortion up high, it pushes the guitars back in the mix).

I would suggest learning how the bass nob interacts with the distortion for chuggy stuff, you should remove a lot of bass as that gets farty and mushy. A proper valve amp helps a lot. A guitar loaded with EMG pickups will get you right there. Pull back on the bass as you crank up the gain.

For Lead tones, he uses a fernandes sustainer on a lot of TGCD and various duncan pickups on the other albums. On NITND there is a lot of analog pedal stuff happening. The GT-3 has something called a feedbacker effect, that can do a lot of the nice long evolving tones.

The way he plays has a large effect on the sound.

On the albums he blends many sounds together, there are 4 rhythm tracks (with the less distortion I talked about) but these have to be played well otherwise they sound a mess. DOnt bother doing more than 4 as again it gets messy, and learn how mixing the 2 x 2 together. Learn how sounds interact.

It depends what you are going for if you are after the quality of a good mix you need to understand these ideas, if you are looking for live, get a guitar with EMGs, crack the amp up in volume and control the bass levels and buy a GT-3 or some decent analog delays. I have to say though ive never been one impressed with Katatonias live sound.

If you want more I suggest giving your life away to the devil and heading here:

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap-151/

Ace · February 19th, 2010, 01:33 AM

Where do I begin on this on lol. I was just looking for the right pedal really. I don't really wanna duplicate his tone, I was just lookiong for something simular. I don't use EMGs nor a Fernades sustainer in my guitar. I use P-90s in my guitar cause I love them for doom stuff lol, but I just need help findin a pedal.

MadMeg · February 19th, 2010, 08:01 AM

You could try searching for posts by Blakkheim... he may have answered a question like this in the past here.

Klosure · February 24th, 2010, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace

Where do I begin on this on lol. I was just looking for the right pedal really. I don't really wanna duplicate his tone, I was just lookiong for something simular. I don't use EMGs nor a Fernades sustainer in my guitar. I use P-90s in my guitar cause I love them for doom stuff lol, but I just need help findin a pedal.

At first you said you want his tone but don't have his guitar his pedal or his amp.

Now you just want a pedal?

I already mentioned the GT3, this is just one part of course.

The One You Hate · February 24th, 2010, 08:35 AM

such a fun thing)) I've found out that Anders uses that new Morpheus pitch shifter pedal... non't really remember the model. Kinda cheater device =D

Klosure · February 24th, 2010, 10:40 AM

do you know which songs he uses it in?

The One You Hate · February 24th, 2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Klosure

do you know which songs he uses it in?

not really... just spotted him posing with that thing. But he once told that he dislikes baritone scales and 7 string stuff, so I guess that it could be used in Forsaker for example (correct me if I'm mistaken, but I guess there were some A's or A#'s in there)

February 16th, 2010, 10:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ace Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Glendale AZ Posts: 195	Looking for Anders Tone I play guitar and I was looking to get Anders tone in a Distortion/Overdrive pedal. I know he use to use a Damage Control Demonizerm but I was wondering if anyone knows of another pedal that would get me simular results. I play through a Fender hot rod, with a PRS se Soapbar II.

February 18th, 2010, 04:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
Klosure Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 260	The key to Anders tone is simple. The Demonizer has little to do with it as he hardly uses it now - I think he said it broke. Hotrod/Matamp/Marshall/Orange/Mesa all have a character, but its how you set it up that matters. Are you using EMG pickups, thats a must for the chuggy. Katatonia dont use Matamp as such on the albums they use a mesa for the chuggy stuff. But I have an Orange and with the Demonizer and the orange I can get close, the trick is to get used to the EQ on the amp. Try not to push, pull back first then push gentle and learn how the amp breaks up and at what point it becomes messy. I do have the demonizer but I can tell you if you are looking for the album tones you don't need to look at the pedal - even though its a good pedal You need to consider the setup of your amp and you need to understand distortion. If you are the type of guy who puts the gain at 100% this will be your first mistake. Anders talks about how they no longer push the distortion up high (listen to Discouraged ones and you can hear the distortion up high, it pushes the guitars back in the mix). I would suggest learning how the bass nob interacts with the distortion for chuggy stuff, you should remove a lot of bass as that gets farty and mushy. A proper valve amp helps a lot. A guitar loaded with EMG pickups will get you right there. Pull back on the bass as you crank up the gain. For Lead tones, he uses a fernandes sustainer on a lot of TGCD and various duncan pickups on the other albums. On NITND there is a lot of analog pedal stuff happening. The GT-3 has something called a feedbacker effect, that can do a lot of the nice long evolving tones. The way he plays has a large effect on the sound. On the albums he blends many sounds together, there are 4 rhythm tracks (with the less distortion I talked about) but these have to be played well otherwise they sound a mess. DOnt bother doing more than 4 as again it gets messy, and learn how mixing the 2 x 2 together. Learn how sounds interact. It depends what you are going for if you are after the quality of a good mix you need to understand these ideas, if you are looking for live, get a guitar with EMGs, crack the amp up in volume and control the bass levels and buy a GT-3 or some decent analog delays. I have to say though ive never been one impressed with Katatonias live sound. If you want more I suggest giving your life away to the devil and heading here: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap-151/ Last edited by Klosure : February 18th, 2010 at 04:28 AM.

February 24th, 2010, 08:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
The One You Hate noise generator Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: snowy Russia =) Posts: 67	such a fun thing)) I've found out that Anders uses that new Morpheus pitch shifter pedal... non't really remember the model. Kinda cheater device =D __________________ http://www.lastfm.ru/user/TheOneYouHate

February 16th, 2010, 10:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
BlueSky Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,339	Find your own tone fellow Az'ian.

February 19th, 2010, 01:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ace Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Glendale AZ Posts: 195	Where do I begin on this on lol. I was just looking for the right pedal really. I don't really wanna duplicate his tone, I was just lookiong for something simular. I don't use EMGs nor a Fernades sustainer in my guitar. I use P-90s in my guitar cause I love them for doom stuff lol, but I just need help findin a pedal.

February 19th, 2010, 08:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
MadMeg Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 51	You could try searching for posts by Blakkheim... he may have answered a question like this in the past here.

February 24th, 2010, 10:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
Klosure Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 260	do you know which songs he uses it in?