Tiredness??!!

PellePigg · May 13th, 2003, 10:48 AM

I just heard from Rockefeller Music Hall in Oslo that you (Katatonia) had cancelled the concert at John Dee 16.05 because you were tired from the tour. Can this seriously be the reason for the cancellation??!! If so, I think you guys have missed out on a few things about rock. There shouldn't be any contradiction between rock and tiredness whatsoever! There are a lot of tired rockers out there still going strong. If there is another reason for your cancellation, you owe a better explanation to the norwegian fans that have already bouhgt a ticket. Anyway, this is really suspicious considering you haven't cancelled any of the gigs in Sweden 15.05 and 17.05. Shame on Katatonia!!

Rainy Filth · May 13th, 2003, 11:08 AM

hey..take it easy man....

*Gothica* · May 13th, 2003, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PellePigg

I just heard from Rockefeller Music Hall in Oslo that you (Katatonia) had cancelled the concert at John Dee 16.05 because you were tired from the tour. Can this seriously be the reason for the cancellation??!! If so, I think you guys have missed out on a few things about rock. There shouldn't be any contradiction between rock and tiredness whatsoever! There are a lot of tired rockers out there still going strong. If there is another reason for your cancellation, you owe a better explanation to the norwegian fans that have already bouhgt a ticket. Anyway, this is really suspicious considering you haven't cancelled any of the gigs in Sweden 15.05 and 17.05. Shame on Katatonia!!

Have it ever crossed your mind that even rockers can feel sick and tired some time??

Are you never home from work or school when you are sick?

rahvin · May 13th, 2003, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PellePigg

There shouldn't be any contradiction between rock and tiredness whatsoever!

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There are a lot of tired rockers out there still going strong.

hi. i'm a tired rocker.

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Anyway, this is really suspicious considering you haven't cancelled any of the gigs in Sweden 15.05 and 17.05.

when you're tired, you rest. then you're not as tired as before. that's more or less how it goes in the real world.

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Shame on Katatonia!!

uh, fanboy.

rahvin.

khayman · May 13th, 2003, 12:03 PM

duga · May 13th, 2003, 12:50 PM

I thought the gig in Sweden 17/5 was cancelled too?

BarronBlod · May 13th, 2003, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

I thought the gig in Sweden 17/5 was cancelled too?

really? where did you get that info?

duga · May 13th, 2003, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BarronBlod

really? where did you get that info?

A rumour on this forum...

TheFourthHorseman · May 13th, 2003, 02:34 PM

Pelle does have a point...if you think you can't do that many shows,you book less. I mean,it's shitty to disappoint fans later on by saying that they're tired. Then again,they're just humans too. Shit happens.
He's paid for the ticket so I think that he's entitled to complain too...

John Carvajal · May 13th, 2003, 03:46 PM

Tired ??

hasn't the katatonic band see the Maiden Live Booklets??, almost a complete year touring, almost all days, that's how a band becomes big

or can be another reason, who knows?,
shame for the ones that have that cancellations

, maybe next time

Erik · May 13th, 2003, 04:01 PM

Blame the people who did a cruddy job in planning the tour if you want someone to blame. They've probably scheduled too few days of rest.

PellePigg · May 13th, 2003, 04:05 PM

If it's true that the gigs in Sweden are cancelled as well, and the cancellations are due to illness or some other proper reason, it's acceptable and understandable. But then again, the band should let the fans know! I think we are entitled to protest when being told that the gig has been cancelled because the bandmembers are tired. It's like calling your boss telling him/her you can't come to work because you are tired. It's fucking provocative to hear such a ridiculous excuse when you have bought a ticket and are looking forward to the show. Of course touring can be tiring, but you just don't cancel a gig for such a silly reason. They can rest when the tour is over. Anyhow, no matter what the reason for the cancellation might be, Katatonia should make it up to us by visiting Oslo in the near future.....

EvilGenius · May 14th, 2003, 02:01 AM

Hey, if they don't rest, all it takes is one tour to destroy the band. On Faith No MOre's 'the Real Thing' tour (tour solid years supposedly), the band REALLY got to [hate] eachother. Sure it took awhile, but they DID eventually break up and that was a TERRIBLE thing. Am I really blaming their breakup on that tour? No, I guess I'm not, but it's possible I suppose. There really was some really huge hard feelings between some of the members. They booted their guitarist (Jim Martin) from the band right in the middle of a concert!!

the-lull · May 14th, 2003, 04:08 AM

I just think the guy who told you that the show was cancelled because of tiredness told you bullshit...I don't think Katatonia would spit on making this gig just because they're tired...Moreover,they probably lose money by cancelling this gig, so this excuse sounds odd to me. I'll wait for an official statement by katatonia guys...

LuminousAether · May 14th, 2003, 08:19 AM

I think it was a great thing that Faith No More broke up. Mike Patton's work with Tomahawk and Fantomas is much better than Faith No More's last album. I liked Mr Bungle more than Faith No More anyways...

EvilGenius · May 14th, 2003, 11:10 AM

Fantomas better than Faith No More? Holy shit, now this is a prime example of a difference in opinion. I liked their (FNM) last album a lot, but I think Mr. Bungle, California, was better than it.

OracleDeist · May 15th, 2003, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PellePigg

I just heard from Rockefeller Music Hall in Oslo that you (Katatonia) had cancelled the concert at John Dee 16.05 because you were tired from the tour. Can this seriously be the reason for the cancellation??!! If so, I think you guys have missed out on a few things about rock. There shouldn't be any contradiction between rock and tiredness whatsoever! There are a lot of tired rockers out there still going strong. If there is another reason for your cancellation, you owe a better explanation to the norwegian fans that have already bouhgt a ticket. Anyway, this is really suspicious considering you haven't cancelled any of the gigs in Sweden 15.05 and 17.05. Shame on Katatonia!!

Shut the hell up katatonia has only been to the states once they are always in europe besides they have the right to do what ever the hell they want. Did you buy tickets for that show if so thats good for you at least have the chance to see them again.

EvilGenius · May 15th, 2003, 01:18 AM

No, I have to disagree with you, oracledeist. Assuming he has his facts straight (I don't believe it personally, but let us assume), then he has every right to bitch. He purchased a ticket to see a show. Then there is no show. He has absolutely every right to bitch UNTIL he gets his money back.

Even still, it's a let down. However, the wrong word is being used here. IT shouldn't be "tiredness", but fatigue, and if it is the case that Katatonia are fatigued, then not only should they not play, but chances are good that they are incapable of playing. Being tired and being fatigued are two very different things.

ether · May 15th, 2003, 12:33 PM

I saw the guys in Hamburg and they looked really exhausted...moreover they were all sick, it's understandable they wanted to finish the tour as soon as possible. However they did their best and the gig in hamburg, even if a little bit shorter, was still good!

DE · May 19th, 2003, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilGenius

No, I have to disagree with you, oracledeist. Assuming he has his facts straight (I don't believe it personally, but let us assume), then he has every right to bitch. He purchased a ticket to see a show. Then there is no show. He has absolutely every right to bitch UNTIL he gets his money back.

Even still, it's a let down. However, the wrong word is being used here. IT shouldn't be "tiredness", but fatigue, and if it is the case that Katatonia are fatigued, then not only should they not play, but chances are good that they are incapable of playing. Being tired and being fatigued are two very different things.

you have to ask yourself, would you rather wait, and see a different show, or go to a show that wasn't as good as it could have been because the band were too tired to play properly? I'd rather wait...

EvilGenius · May 19th, 2003, 02:50 PM

I wouldn't be able to wait. All of the members of the band could be dying of leprosy and barely incapable of standing, let alone play music, and I'd still cream my pants if I saw them live. Of course, the chances of Katatonia coming to western Canada is very little, so I'd see them no matter what state of mind they were in if they were to make it here.

Spoon · May 20th, 2003, 06:17 AM

Will the show be reschedualed?

BarronBlod · May 20th, 2003, 10:23 AM

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Will the show be reschedualed?

My guess is NO, but who knows. Still waiting for a statement from the band. The katatonia.com webmaster is home from the tour with his band now, so I hope some more news/updates will be up soon...

SWeeT_NuRSe · May 20th, 2003, 05:26 PM

On one hand...This way, if they rest, Katatonia won't die and will live another gigging-in-England day...one the other hand, you sleep when you are dead.

May 13th, 2003, 10:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
PellePigg Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2	Tiredness??!! I just heard from Rockefeller Music Hall in Oslo that you (Katatonia) had cancelled the concert at John Dee 16.05 because you were tired from the tour. Can this seriously be the reason for the cancellation??!! If so, I think you guys have missed out on a few things about rock. There shouldn't be any contradiction between rock and tiredness whatsoever! There are a lot of tired rockers out there still going strong. If there is another reason for your cancellation, you owe a better explanation to the norwegian fans that have already bouhgt a ticket. Anyway, this is really suspicious considering you haven't cancelled any of the gigs in Sweden 15.05 and 17.05. Shame on Katatonia!!

May 13th, 2003, 11:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
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May 13th, 2003, 03:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
John Carvajal KATATONIANATHEMA Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bogotá - Colombia Posts: 886	Tired ?? hasn't the katatonic band see the Maiden Live Booklets??, almost a complete year touring, almost all days, that's how a band becomes big or can be another reason, who knows?, shame for the ones that have that cancellations , maybe next time __________________ KATATONIANATHEMA !!! UP THE IRONS !!! METAL FOREVER !!!

May 13th, 2003, 04:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
PellePigg Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2	True? If it's true that the gigs in Sweden are cancelled as well, and the cancellations are due to illness or some other proper reason, it's acceptable and understandable. But then again, the band should let the fans know! I think we are entitled to protest when being told that the gig has been cancelled because the bandmembers are tired. It's like calling your boss telling him/her you can't come to work because you are tired. It's fucking provocative to hear such a ridiculous excuse when you have bought a ticket and are looking forward to the show. Of course touring can be tiring, but you just don't cancel a gig for such a silly reason. They can rest when the tour is over. Anyhow, no matter what the reason for the cancellation might be, Katatonia should make it up to us by visiting Oslo in the near future.....

May 13th, 2003, 12:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
duga Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 25	I thought the gig in Sweden 17/5 was cancelled too?

May 13th, 2003, 02:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
TheFourthHorseman In The Twilight World Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 4,901	Pelle does have a point...if you think you can't do that many shows,you book less. I mean,it's shitty to disappoint fans later on by saying that they're tired. Then again,they're just humans too. Shit happens. He's paid for the ticket so I think that he's entitled to complain too...

May 13th, 2003, 04:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
Erik Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: southernmost voyage Posts: 16,454	Blame the people who did a cruddy job in planning the tour if you want someone to blame. They've probably scheduled too few days of rest.

May 14th, 2003, 02:01 AM	#13 (permalink)
EvilGenius you like my new avatar? Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Republic of Alberta Posts: 419	Hey, if they don't rest, all it takes is one tour to destroy the band. On Faith No MOre's 'the Real Thing' tour (tour solid years supposedly), the band REALLY got to [hate] eachother. Sure it took awhile, but they DID eventually break up and that was a TERRIBLE thing. Am I really blaming their breakup on that tour? No, I guess I'm not, but it's possible I suppose. There really was some really huge hard feelings between some of the members. They booted their guitarist (Jim Martin) from the band right in the middle of a concert!! __________________ [I hate] Stuff.

May 14th, 2003, 04:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
the-lull discouraged one Join Date: May 2001 Location: France Posts: 331	I just think the guy who told you that the show was cancelled because of tiredness told you bullshit...I don't think Katatonia would spit on making this gig just because they're tired...Moreover,they probably lose money by cancelling this gig, so this excuse sounds odd to me. I'll wait for an official statement by katatonia guys... __________________ -we are wasting our best years trying to become what we'll never be- http://www.thelull.fr.fm

May 14th, 2003, 08:19 AM	#15 (permalink)
LuminousAether My name is Distance Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 4,361	I think it was a great thing that Faith No More broke up. Mike Patton's work with Tomahawk and Fantomas is much better than Faith No More's last album. I liked Mr Bungle more than Faith No More anyways... __________________

May 14th, 2003, 11:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
EvilGenius you like my new avatar? Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Republic of Alberta Posts: 419	Fantomas better than Faith No More? Holy shit, now this is a prime example of a difference in opinion. I liked their (FNM) last album a lot, but I think Mr. Bungle, California, was better than it. __________________ [I hate] Stuff.

May 15th, 2003, 01:18 AM	#18 (permalink)
EvilGenius you like my new avatar? Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Republic of Alberta Posts: 419	No, I have to disagree with you, oracledeist. Assuming he has his facts straight (I don't believe it personally, but let us assume), then he has every right to bitch. He purchased a ticket to see a show. Then there is no show. He has absolutely every right to bitch UNTIL he gets his money back. Even still, it's a let down. However, the wrong word is being used here. IT shouldn't be "tiredness", but fatigue, and if it is the case that Katatonia are fatigued, then not only should they not play, but chances are good that they are incapable of playing. Being tired and being fatigued are two very different things. __________________ [I hate] Stuff.

May 15th, 2003, 12:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
ether °°§°° Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,241	I saw the guys in Hamburg and they looked really exhausted...moreover they were all sick, it's understandable they wanted to finish the tour as soon as possible. However they did their best and the gig in hamburg, even if a little bit shorter, was still good! __________________ "En fågel sjunger inte för att den har några frågor eller svar, en fågel sjunger för att den har en sång.”

May 19th, 2003, 02:50 PM	#21 (permalink)
EvilGenius you like my new avatar? Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Republic of Alberta Posts: 419	I wouldn't be able to wait. All of the members of the band could be dying of leprosy and barely incapable of standing, let alone play music, and I'd still cream my pants if I saw them live. Of course, the chances of Katatonia coming to western Canada is very little, so I'd see them no matter what state of mind they were in if they were to make it here. __________________ [I hate] Stuff.

May 20th, 2003, 06:17 AM	#22 (permalink)
Spoon follow the spoon Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 56	Will the show be reschedualed? __________________ Follow the Spoon

May 20th, 2003, 05:26 PM	#24 (permalink)
SWeeT_NuRSe Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: England Posts: 40	On one hand...This way, if they rest, Katatonia won't die and will live another gigging-in-England day...one the other hand, you sleep when you are dead.