The gear thread - Page 2

Fester · June 22nd, 2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadShkinMask

You seriously like the Envoy?? Is it the old pre-about-2004 series (http://www.caulfieldmusic.com.au/gra...eyEnvoy110.jpg) or the one they released around about then (http://www.onstage.metallus.it/FotoProdotto/753.jpg)? Either way, you'd RECORD with it?? I've got one of them (the old one), and, while the reverb effect is darn near perfect, I find both the clean and the distortion sub-standard.

Hmm, to be honest it's gain definitely isn't at the quality of say a mesa triple rectifier, but i would record with it becuase i really like the tone i get out of mine. I agree with you on the reverb, the reverb on it also gives some contour the tone as well as just making it sound like it's in a hall y'know... The clean isn't the best either, but it does the job. If I wanted to record some real clean parst, i'd probably get an FX board and put some slight chorus on it or something.

oh yeah and i have the amp that is in the second link. So you're saying it's post 2004? i got it second hand and it looked fairly old to me.

ImprintedLife · June 23rd, 2006, 08:14 AM

Hey guys, this is an awesome thread, finallly a haven for us gear nerds

, as I posted in the Likes thread, I am getting a Peavey Triple XXX head and matching slant quad for my 21st, I can't wait, I have been hanging out for a decent amp for years, also found out I am getting a new axe as well - Schecter Hellraiser C-1 in black, I am stoked as hell.

My question for you guys, has anyone got or used a Line 6 Pod XT Live, are they decent, have good sounds, I am thinking of getting one for effects.

cro4eva · June 23rd, 2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ImprintedLife

My question for you guys, has anyone got or used a Line 6 Pod XT Live, are they decent, have good sounds, I am thinking of getting one for effects.

I havn't heard any complaints.I got the line 6 HD 147 and unless you know what you're doing its a real pain. So it was a real pain for me lol. Im guessing the Pod XT would be even harder.

ImprintedLife · June 23rd, 2006, 09:09 AM

Thanks man, much appreciated, I have heard good and bad things about Line 6,but I might give it a punt!

~pain · June 23rd, 2006, 10:16 AM

tube amps and solid state

what's the diff

TheDenimRager · June 24th, 2006, 03:12 AM

Different methods of electronic amplification. Tubes use sealed vacuum tubes to generate clouds of electrons and thus amplify a signal (I'm unsure of exactly how this process works). This means of amplification was discovered first, in the late 1800s, and thus is more antiquated and elaborate (read: expensive), but still remains superior in that its more powerful. Also known as valve amps (NB. valvestate amps aren't valve amps).

Solid state amplifiers use that wonderful mainstay of modern electronic genius: the transistor, which, from memory, was invented in the 40s or 30s. Transistor amplification relies on the use of semiconductors (materials altered to have special electrical properties, can't be fucked going into detail). Solid state/transistor amplifiers are more modern-sounding and easier and cheaper to manufacture or run.

From a musician's point of view, its basically a matter of you get what you pay for. Tube amps have better sound reproduction and that classic resonance that rock and roll artists have been using for 50 years, but you'll pay an arm and a leg for one. Solid state amps tend towards a more modern, attack-like distortion and crisper but slightly harsher clean sounds, but they're much cheaper. At a performance level, basically everyone uses valve amps, because if you're a performing or professional musician, then you're either rich enough or committed (read: crazy) enough to fork out the dosh.

Nebulous · June 24th, 2006, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JausmetalJ

Ok ok ok. To start off, ill ask recommendations of good amps with awesome distortion (Without needing a pedal) and good cleans (nothing fantastic, just something I can play with)

So far, Im going to check out (When I get the time);
Peavy XXX
Randall RG50t
Peavy 5150II/6505II (whatever the diff is)

any others I should check out. I guess I play all types of metal..

Also, something that will complement the EMG 81 and 85.

Ive also checked out the ENGL screamer or something (not too sure)

Didn't like it a whole lot tbh.

A few decent amps in that list. I have recently played a Triple XXX and 6505+ and wasnt blown away completely. They both had TONS of gain if thats your thing, otehrwise, id recommend the Peavey JSX. I just got one yesterday, then today i went out and got a Framus 4*12 cab (w/ V30's \m/) and i can't love it any more, it's somewhere between the 5150 and Triple XXX in terms of tone (IMO) but with a little less gain, so it's alot more versatile (which i wanted to be able to play it w/ the folk band i perform in).
http://www.peavey.com/products/brows...ature+Head.cfm
http://www.deluxeguitars.com.au/deluxe_v4/index.htm

For the price, id also look at a Engl Powerball. Three channels and lots of buttons, so lots of variety in tone. Also, the Engl Savage sounds pretty hot, though i think it's beyond the $3 G mark.

Daniel

ImprintedLife · July 4th, 2006, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ImprintedLife

Hey guys, this is an awesome thread, finallly a haven for us gear nerds

, as I posted in the Likes thread, I am getting a Peavey Triple XXX head and matching slant quad for my 21st, I can't wait, I have been hanging out for a decent amp for years, also found out I am getting a new axe as well - Schecter Hellraiser C-1 in black, I am stoked as hell.

My question for you guys, has anyone got or used a Line 6 Pod XT Live, are they decent, have good sounds, I am thinking of getting one for effects.

A change of plans on the amp front - I could not get the Triple XXX head or quad because the supplier was out of stock, but I got an even better amp - Randall MTS 100M and matching cab. Got the clean, XTC (Bogner) & 1086 modules (Super Recto / Gain). Will give a full report by Monday!

LegionsOfTheDead · July 4th, 2006, 03:39 AM

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From a musician's point of view, its basically a matter of you get what you pay for. Tube amps have better sound reproduction and that classic resonance that rock and roll artists have been using for 50 years, but you'll pay an arm and a leg for one. Solid state amps tend towards a more modern, attack-like distortion and crisper but slightly harsher clean sounds, but they're much cheaper. At a performance level, basically everyone uses valve amps, because if you're a performing or professional musician, then you're either rich enough or committed (read: crazy) enough to fork out the dosh.

So Dimebag wasn't rich or committed? Wow that's surprising.

Our guitarist Andrew uses a Line 6 Flextone II head which is Solid State amp. Best sounding and most reliable amp I have ever seen. Sound/effect settings are SAVED so if some idiot walks up and changes your settings you just bring up the patch again and your sound is back. Our other guitarists (who mostly use rack gear.. seperate tube driven power/pre amps etc etc) always had issues with gear... and the sound wasn't as good either.

Don't underestimate solid state gear.

Lord Tim · July 4th, 2006, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadShkinMask

At a performance level, basically everyone uses valve amps, because if you're a performing or professional musician, then you're either rich enough or committed (read: crazy) enough to fork out the dosh.

Sorry man, that's absolute rubbish.

Like Mat said, Dime was one example of someone who was able to pay for what he likes but chose solid state.

I like the sound of tube amps myself but I don't like the attack response so I choose to use solid state gear. It's not a popular choice but basically fuck anyone who doesn't like it, *I* like it.

JausmetalJ · July 4th, 2006, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Me

Ok, I just had a thought... and im unsure about something.

With the speedloader bridges, you can get strings designed for the bridge/neck length/nut etc, so theres little tuning done.

But can you put in a speedloader and just use regular strings that go through the tuning keys, and just use the ball end to put in the bridge?

Posted this in the Techniques thread... probably best here.

June 23rd, 2006, 10:16 AM	#30 (permalink)
~pain The New Guy Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 50	tube amps and solid state what's the diff __________________

June 24th, 2006, 03:12 AM	#31 (permalink)
TheDenimRager Major Rager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Under the Southern Cross Posts: 5,317	Different methods of electronic amplification. Tubes use sealed vacuum tubes to generate clouds of electrons and thus amplify a signal (I'm unsure of exactly how this process works). This means of amplification was discovered first, in the late 1800s, and thus is more antiquated and elaborate (read: expensive), but still remains superior in that its more powerful. Also known as valve amps (NB. valvestate amps aren't valve amps). Solid state amplifiers use that wonderful mainstay of modern electronic genius: the transistor, which, from memory, was invented in the 40s or 30s. Transistor amplification relies on the use of semiconductors (materials altered to have special electrical properties, can't be fucked going into detail). Solid state/transistor amplifiers are more modern-sounding and easier and cheaper to manufacture or run. From a musician's point of view, its basically a matter of you get what you pay for. Tube amps have better sound reproduction and that classic resonance that rock and roll artists have been using for 50 years, but you'll pay an arm and a leg for one. Solid state amps tend towards a more modern, attack-like distortion and crisper but slightly harsher clean sounds, but they're much cheaper. At a performance level, basically everyone uses valve amps, because if you're a performing or professional musician, then you're either rich enough or committed (read: crazy) enough to fork out the dosh. __________________ -~~~- I care not though I live but a day, If my name and my fame are a power forever. -~~~-

June 23rd, 2006, 08:14 AM	#27 (permalink)
ImprintedLife Arriving Somewhere..... Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Warilla, Australia Posts: 312	Hey guys, this is an awesome thread, finallly a haven for us gear nerds , as I posted in the Likes thread, I am getting a Peavey Triple XXX head and matching slant quad for my 21st, I can't wait, I have been hanging out for a decent amp for years, also found out I am getting a new axe as well - Schecter Hellraiser C-1 in black, I am stoked as hell. My question for you guys, has anyone got or used a Line 6 Pod XT Live, are they decent, have good sounds, I am thinking of getting one for effects.

June 23rd, 2006, 09:09 AM	#29 (permalink)
ImprintedLife Arriving Somewhere..... Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Warilla, Australia Posts: 312	Thanks man, much appreciated, I have heard good and bad things about Line 6,but I might give it a punt!