The Ascendence update thread - Page 2

Nam Taf · January 14th, 2007, 09:23 PM

You're all a bunch of fuckin' geeks.

I love that

fire_angel · January 14th, 2007, 11:50 PM

I hope the cover art is half decent for once. Don't get me wrong, but i just felt that dungeon, and now lord especially, would benefit most from something epic and hand drawn rather than another rusty and pixelated photoshop job.

I understand that comissioning an artist is something alot of bands just can't afford, and with good reason, but i'd love to see you guys have something that could actually grab potential buyers. Something like Iced Earth or Kamelot.

I have every faith that the album will be brilliant, but let's face it: great cover art is almost essential to push into the mass market. My 2 cents anyway. Best of luck with recording, and can't wait to hear it.

TheDenimRager · January 14th, 2007, 11:59 PM

I have to agree with Tim above...as mindblowingly awesome as Dungeon were, I felt the cover art was sometimes not as cool as everything else.

Mean Machine · January 15th, 2007, 12:08 AM

Agreed, every dungeon album cover is lacking (except for perhaps TFC, as simple as the cover is, it fits the album). One Step Beyond could've been good with more detail and color etc.

FerretallicA · January 15th, 2007, 12:12 AM

I thought Rise To Power had awesome artwork...

Mean Machine · January 15th, 2007, 12:13 AM

which cover? the lightning and flames one, or the euro/american one?

FerretallicA · January 15th, 2007, 12:18 AM

Isn't it the one that had that behemoth-looking monster dude about to crush shit? I can't remember the exact cover off the top of my head, just remember it looking cool. I'll have to check when I get home.

TheDenimRager · January 15th, 2007, 12:30 AM

That'd be the SMPM (US/Euro) version, that was fucking cool IMHO, but not altogether relevant and probably a little too cheese for the type of band Dungeon was. The Australian release had a chick standing on top of a Southern-cross-clad temple (or something of the sort) being struck by lightning while huge flaming pyres raged in front of her.

I think ARTP (Aus) was an awesome concept but just not quite high enough quality on the second glance. OSB was good quality but didn't really catch the eye. TFC had an advantage on the other two in that it was kinda a KISS philosophy, but again, not very eye-catching.

Mean Machine · January 15th, 2007, 12:34 AM

Yeah, the aussie ARTP would've been alot better if done in photoshop or something along those lines instead of 3d rendering, it lacks any real detail. And the closeup on the inside cover of the girl doesn't make it look any better either.

FerretallicA · January 15th, 2007, 12:34 AM

Serious? I bought mine on eBay so I'm not really surprised it was a foreign release version but I thought the foreign ones had the cover song bonus tracks on it but mine doesn't have them.

Mean Machine · January 15th, 2007, 12:36 AM

The aussie one has both bonus/cover songs, but I think the european one was missing Wasted Years.

Lord Tim · January 15th, 2007, 12:39 AM

If you liked the Scarymetalpoomonster cover then I'm afraid you'll be disappointed with the LORD cover - it's somewhat more sinister and less pooncy than that!

If I could sum up the LORD cover in one word, I'd use: savage.

Lord Tim · January 15th, 2007, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FerretallicA

Serious? I bought mine on eBay so I'm not really surprised it was a foreign release version but I thought the foreign ones had the cover song bonus tracks on it but mine doesn't have them.

There was 2 versions of the LMP release - the standard edition which had nothing except for the album songs (and the "awesome" artwork) and the limited edition version which had 1 of the bonus tracks from the Australian release.

fire_angel · January 15th, 2007, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Tim

If you liked the Scarymetalpoomonster cover then I'm afraid you'll be disappointed with the LORD cover - it's somewhat more sinister and less pooncy than that!

If I could sum up the LORD cover in one word, I'd use: savage.

Haha. As long as it isn't 3d rendering again, it'll be great i'm sure.

Closer to release, do you think you can release some of the early concept art for the cover? That's always great fun to see, and usually builds up a good amount of hype.

Lord Tim · January 15th, 2007, 11:06 PM

There will be a press release with the actual final cover (love it or hate it) very soon. Stay tuned.

Pyro · January 15th, 2007, 11:10 PM

Please tell me there is lens flare and/or lightning.

Lord Tim · January 15th, 2007, 11:17 PM

There is fire. There is lightning. There is nasty looking creatures.

But there is no lens flare.

Grimmz0r · January 15th, 2007, 11:18 PM

:-D WOO!!!!!!!

Acey Jendell · January 15th, 2007, 11:52 PM

Hopefully you can actually hear the solos on this one

But seriously, TFC was fucking wicked, and i can't wait for this one.

Lord Tim · January 15th, 2007, 11:53 PM

You thought the solos were too quiet on the other ones?!

Acey Jendell · January 15th, 2007, 11:55 PM

Mostly on OSB. But there's a few songs on Ressurection (re-release) where the solos were kinda quiet.

Lord Tim · January 16th, 2007, 12:04 AM

The solos were actually turned up a little bit on the Modern Invasion edition of OSB, so if it does bug you that much then grab that one.

Acey Jendell · January 16th, 2007, 12:08 AM

When was that released?
I got my copy in early 2005.

Lord Tim · January 16th, 2007, 12:12 AM

Yeah, MIM picked up the rights to this in late 2006, so any copies after November 2006 that have the bonus "The Art Of War" video clip listed on the back is the MIM re-release.

It's not a major change from the 2004 Metal Warriors release, really, but it's a little brighter and there's a few changes to the sounds to make it a little more exciting (plus the video and bonus track, of course). It's the one to get if you haven't bought it before and if you have it's a nice collector's piece.

Acey Jendell · January 16th, 2007, 12:24 AM

I might get it then, because my Metal Warriors version is scratched.
Also, i saw an ad for LMP in Metal Edge and it had a pic of Ressurection with hell weird cover art, is this the Overseas Re-Release art?
And, is the album any different to the Aussie version?

January 14th, 2007, 11:59 PM	#28 (permalink)
TheDenimRager Undead Drinking Machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Under the Southern Cross Posts: 5,660	I have to agree with Tim above...as mindblowingly awesome as Dungeon were, I felt the cover art was sometimes not as cool as everything else. __________________ -~~~- I care not though I live but a day, If my name and my fame are a power forever. -~~~-

January 15th, 2007, 12:08 AM	#29 (permalink)
Mean Machine Happy Little Boozer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,486	Agreed, every dungeon album cover is lacking (except for perhaps TFC, as simple as the cover is, it fits the album). One Step Beyond could've been good with more detail and color etc. __________________ Metal Obsession - Supporting Aussie Metal www.metalobsession.net www.myspace.com/metobsession Reviews/Interviews/Gig Guides/Photos/Giveaways + more

January 15th, 2007, 12:12 AM	#30 (permalink)
FerretallicA HMAS Slagdestroyer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 5,637	I thought Rise To Power had awesome artwork... __________________

January 15th, 2007, 12:13 AM	#31 (permalink)
Mean Machine Happy Little Boozer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,486	which cover? the lightning and flames one, or the euro/american one? __________________ Metal Obsession - Supporting Aussie Metal www.metalobsession.net www.myspace.com/metobsession Reviews/Interviews/Gig Guides/Photos/Giveaways + more

January 15th, 2007, 12:18 AM	#32 (permalink)
FerretallicA HMAS Slagdestroyer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 5,637	Isn't it the one that had that behemoth-looking monster dude about to crush shit? I can't remember the exact cover off the top of my head, just remember it looking cool. I'll have to check when I get home. __________________

January 14th, 2007, 09:23 PM	#26 (permalink)
Nam Taf Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brisvegas, Australia Posts: 212	You're all a bunch of fuckin' geeks. I love that

January 14th, 2007, 11:50 PM	#27 (permalink)
fire_angel Timboooooo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canberra Posts: 837	I hope the cover art is half decent for once. Don't get me wrong, but i just felt that dungeon, and now lord especially, would benefit most from something epic and hand drawn rather than another rusty and pixelated photoshop job. I understand that comissioning an artist is something alot of bands just can't afford, and with good reason, but i'd love to see you guys have something that could actually grab potential buyers. Something like Iced Earth or Kamelot. I have every faith that the album will be brilliant, but let's face it: great cover art is almost essential to push into the mass market. My 2 cents anyway. Best of luck with recording, and can't wait to hear it.

January 15th, 2007, 12:30 AM	#33 (permalink)
TheDenimRager Undead Drinking Machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Under the Southern Cross Posts: 5,660	That'd be the SMPM (US/Euro) version, that was fucking cool IMHO, but not altogether relevant and probably a little too cheese for the type of band Dungeon was. The Australian release had a chick standing on top of a Southern-cross-clad temple (or something of the sort) being struck by lightning while huge flaming pyres raged in front of her. I think ARTP (Aus) was an awesome concept but just not quite high enough quality on the second glance. OSB was good quality but didn't really catch the eye. TFC had an advantage on the other two in that it was kinda a KISS philosophy, but again, not very eye-catching. __________________ -~~~- I care not though I live but a day, If my name and my fame are a power forever. -~~~-

January 15th, 2007, 12:34 AM	#34 (permalink)
Mean Machine Happy Little Boozer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,486	Yeah, the aussie ARTP would've been alot better if done in photoshop or something along those lines instead of 3d rendering, it lacks any real detail. And the closeup on the inside cover of the girl doesn't make it look any better either. __________________ Metal Obsession - Supporting Aussie Metal www.metalobsession.net www.myspace.com/metobsession Reviews/Interviews/Gig Guides/Photos/Giveaways + more

January 15th, 2007, 12:34 AM	#35 (permalink)
FerretallicA HMAS Slagdestroyer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 5,637	Serious? I bought mine on eBay so I'm not really surprised it was a foreign release version but I thought the foreign ones had the cover song bonus tracks on it but mine doesn't have them. __________________

January 15th, 2007, 12:36 AM	#36 (permalink)
Mean Machine Happy Little Boozer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,486	The aussie one has both bonus/cover songs, but I think the european one was missing Wasted Years. __________________ Metal Obsession - Supporting Aussie Metal www.metalobsession.net www.myspace.com/metobsession Reviews/Interviews/Gig Guides/Photos/Giveaways + more

January 15th, 2007, 12:39 AM	#37 (permalink)
Lord Tim Set In Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Wollongong, Australia Posts: 16,193	If you liked the Scarymetalpoomonster cover then I'm afraid you'll be disappointed with the LORD cover - it's somewhat more sinister and less pooncy than that! If I could sum up the LORD cover in one word, I'd use: savage. __________________ LORD: website . UM forum . MySpace NEW ALBUM "SET IN STONE" - OUT NOW IN AUS, OUT OCTOBER IN JAPAN! Got the hunger but we're wanting more Forever reaching higher Remember what we're fighting for The writing on the wall is Set In Stone Last edited by Lord Tim : January 15th, 2007 at 12:43 AM.

January 15th, 2007, 11:06 PM	#40 (permalink)
Lord Tim Set In Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Wollongong, Australia Posts: 16,193	There will be a press release with the actual final cover (love it or hate it) very soon. Stay tuned. __________________ LORD: website . UM forum . MySpace NEW ALBUM "SET IN STONE" - OUT NOW IN AUS, OUT OCTOBER IN JAPAN! Got the hunger but we're wanting more Forever reaching higher Remember what we're fighting for The writing on the wall is Set In Stone

January 15th, 2007, 11:10 PM	#41 (permalink)
Pyro The guy from the internet Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,309	Please tell me there is lens flare and/or lightning. __________________ - Pyro - www.StigmartyrRecords.com (Metal distro & label - Thrash/Death/Black) - www.PyroMusic.net - Unrestrained! Magazine - Pyro-Vesten.net (Web & Graphic Design)

January 15th, 2007, 11:17 PM	#42 (permalink)
Lord Tim Set In Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Wollongong, Australia Posts: 16,193	There is fire. There is lightning. There is nasty looking creatures. But there is no lens flare. __________________ LORD: website . UM forum . MySpace NEW ALBUM "SET IN STONE" - OUT NOW IN AUS, OUT OCTOBER IN JAPAN! Got the hunger but we're wanting more Forever reaching higher Remember what we're fighting for The writing on the wall is Set In Stone

January 15th, 2007, 11:18 PM	#43 (permalink)
Grimmz0r Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canberra Posts: 493	:-D WOO!!!!!!! __________________ ... ... MySpace ... ... ... Last.fm ... ... ... Facebook ... ...

January 15th, 2007, 11:52 PM	#44 (permalink)
Acey Jendell Jonesey Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Forster NSW Posts: 1,619	Hopefully you can actually hear the solos on this one But seriously, TFC was fucking wicked, and i can't wait for this one. __________________ The Philosopher.... You know so much about nothing at all!!!

January 15th, 2007, 11:53 PM	#45 (permalink)
Lord Tim Set In Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Wollongong, Australia Posts: 16,193	You thought the solos were too quiet on the other ones?! __________________ LORD: website . UM forum . MySpace NEW ALBUM "SET IN STONE" - OUT NOW IN AUS, OUT OCTOBER IN JAPAN! Got the hunger but we're wanting more Forever reaching higher Remember what we're fighting for The writing on the wall is Set In Stone

January 15th, 2007, 11:55 PM	#46 (permalink)
Acey Jendell Jonesey Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Forster NSW Posts: 1,619	Mostly on OSB. But there's a few songs on Ressurection (re-release) where the solos were kinda quiet. __________________ The Philosopher.... You know so much about nothing at all!!!

January 16th, 2007, 12:04 AM	#47 (permalink)
Lord Tim Set In Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Wollongong, Australia Posts: 16,193	The solos were actually turned up a little bit on the Modern Invasion edition of OSB, so if it does bug you that much then grab that one. __________________ LORD: website . UM forum . MySpace NEW ALBUM "SET IN STONE" - OUT NOW IN AUS, OUT OCTOBER IN JAPAN! Got the hunger but we're wanting more Forever reaching higher Remember what we're fighting for The writing on the wall is Set In Stone

January 16th, 2007, 12:08 AM	#48 (permalink)
Acey Jendell Jonesey Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Forster NSW Posts: 1,619	When was that released? I got my copy in early 2005. __________________ The Philosopher.... You know so much about nothing at all!!!

January 16th, 2007, 12:12 AM	#49 (permalink)
Lord Tim Set In Stone Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Wollongong, Australia Posts: 16,193	Yeah, MIM picked up the rights to this in late 2006, so any copies after November 2006 that have the bonus "The Art Of War" video clip listed on the back is the MIM re-release. It's not a major change from the 2004 Metal Warriors release, really, but it's a little brighter and there's a few changes to the sounds to make it a little more exciting (plus the video and bonus track, of course). It's the one to get if you haven't bought it before and if you have it's a nice collector's piece. __________________ LORD: website . UM forum . MySpace NEW ALBUM "SET IN STONE" - OUT NOW IN AUS, OUT OCTOBER IN JAPAN! Got the hunger but we're wanting more Forever reaching higher Remember what we're fighting for The writing on the wall is Set In Stone

January 16th, 2007, 12:24 AM	#50 (permalink)
Acey Jendell Jonesey Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Forster NSW Posts: 1,619	I might get it then, because my Metal Warriors version is scratched. Also, i saw an ad for LMP in Metal Edge and it had a pic of Ressurection with hell weird cover art, is this the Overseas Re-Release art? And, is the album any different to the Aussie version? __________________ The Philosopher.... You know so much about nothing at all!!!