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Old March 2nd, 2008, 10:36 PM   #76 (permalink)
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I have worked in sales for over 15 years. Some advice, don't do it. I could go on massive spiel on why you should not do it but it would end up as a novel of pure hate. The only reason I am still doing it is because it is now the only thing I know how to without having to take time out to study another field. Daniel if you are serious about a career in sales, let me write the novel first.
Got a picture book version?

It's actually sales for a Building company. I've worked for one before as a customer service bitch, and got to see that it isn't an easy job, and that people can be cunts, but I've also seen some good sales people.

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 04:26 AM   #77 (permalink)
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I have worked in sales for over 15 years. Some advice, don't do it.
My advice is if it is what you really yearn to do go for it.

AIA did not like it but it doesn't mean everyone will have the same experience.

It depends on the job, for instance, cold canvassing does take a very determined person with a lot of persuasive skill, someone who can handle rejection.

If your market is ready and waiting then it will be easier, it all depends on what sales role you get.

I'm involved with the estimating department of a company and I find it enjoyable, it's all about quoting a project at the right price for the client and beating your competition. It is tricky though, you can make money and you can lose 'big' money for your company if you don't get it right.

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Old March 4th, 2008, 01:17 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Hm, what are some of your favourite excuses for getting time off work (in advance if you can) so that you can attend other job interviews?

I'm in quite a pickle, I've decided to test the waters, but I work for a family friend, so I can't pull the funeral/ doctor/ etc excuses too easily.
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Old March 4th, 2008, 04:57 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Waiting to hear back from this job I "might" find out about today just got a whole lot harder because I've been offered another job. It's nowhere near as good as the one I want, but it's a step up from my current position.

Only problem is... how do I delay accepting the position if I don't find out about this other one today?????
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Old March 5th, 2008, 01:25 AM   #80 (permalink)
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how do I delay accepting the position if I don't find out about this other one today?????
This happened to me, you have to be honest and contact both employers.

Tell the "two in the bush" that you have been offered a position and would appreciate an answer as soon as possible - they will understand. If you are worth considering they will tell you to wait a week or so, if you don't stand a chance they will tell you to accept the "bird in the hand".

Contact the "bird in the hand" and tell them that you have another offer and you would like to see if it comes through and if they can hold off for a week or so - they did it for me and I accepted the "two in the bush" as soon as it was offered.

You have to go with what is best for you.

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Hm, what are some of your favourite excuses for getting time off work (in advance if you can) so that you can attend other job interviews?
Arrange the interviews early in the morning/before work, late in the afternoon/after work or around lunch time to get as little time off work as possible and tell them you have to arrive late, leave early or go for extended lunch to take care of bills, finances, car repairs, personal issues, whatever.

I would even take about an hour or so off during morning tea to rush off to recruiters, I returned to finish my work and they didn't bat an eyelid.

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Old March 5th, 2008, 01:30 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Waiting to hear back from this job I "might" find out about today just got a whole lot harder because I've been offered another job. It's nowhere near as good as the one I want, but it's a step up from my current position.

Only problem is... how do I delay accepting the position if I don't find out about this other one today?????
Man, who cares, accept the first job and if you get a better offer, quit after however long! There's a 3 month probation period for a reason, either employer or employee can call the whole thing off at the drop of a hat.

Don't forget that these people probably have a list of 10 people, all of whom have been interviewed and would be adequate for the job, who came in after you in the interview process. You shouldn't feel that if you leave a job after 2 days or whatever that you're causing them some sort of massive trouble, that's a load of crap. If you leave after 2 days, all they have to do is pick up the phone and the #2 guy will be there tomorrow, you know what I mean?

Edit: Oh, BTW Todd, one thing I forgot to say - good luck duuude!
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Well I got a call from the agency guy this arvo (around 6pm). Basically reassuring me that a decision is coming, should have it "first thing in the morning" and told me to be "quietly confident" because he believes I made a great impression *fingers crossed*
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Old March 5th, 2008, 05:36 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Man, who cares, accept the first job and if you get a better offer, quit after however long!
This can be ok if you are in an industry that is not tight knit.

You may need to go back to that company one day so best not to burn bridges.

In my game everyone knows everyone so it's always best to be honest.
Employers do realise the circumstances Todd described and any decent company will accomodate.

Did you get the job Todd?

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Don't know yet

Given the time difference between here and Austria, I'm guessing one of two things has happened.... they haven't decided yet OR they have and I'm not one of them. The agency guy should received notification first thing in the morning
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Old March 10th, 2008, 04:46 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Not sure where to ask this but for people like LT, Pyro and others that are heavily into Multimedia, do you have find that you feel as if, rather concentrating on one thing, you feel like you need/want to do everything? e.g. sound, music, video, web, graphics, design, print etc etc.

Maybe I just can't figure out what exactly I want to do.
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Old March 10th, 2008, 06:00 AM   #86 (permalink)
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For me it's mostly out of necessity - we either don't have the money or the time to rely on anyone else and sometimes the job just needs to get done. I do also get kind of bored working on the one thing and sometimes when I'm doing some really intense audio stuff, I like to go off and do some Photoshop work or something just to break the monotony of it all.
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Print-based design is my big passion, the area I have honed my skills most, and what I plan on making the bulk of my living doing, however, in such a competitive industry it is essential to have a wide skill set. (I don't imagine more than 50% of my income will be from print design). It helps that I love to learn. I've dabbled in everything - some areas more than others. This year is my final year of study and I am concentrating on getting my video and flash actionscripting skills up to a decent level, improving photography as well as working at audio skills to a reasonable level.
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Tell them you're getting dental work done.
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I'm currently looking for a job. Considering doing some payed-volunteer work with AVI to get some experience in the meantime, or non payed, i don't really care.
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Hm, what are some of your favourite excuses for getting time off work (in advance if you can) so that you can attend other job interviews?
I use the fact that I've got a pre-exisiting condition (migraines) and just tell them I have to go for "more tests". Used it 4 times and never been questioned..... mind you, I usually arrange my interviews for first thing in the morning or around 5pm to avoid clashing with work as much as I can
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Tell them you're getting dental work done.
Also, they never like to question any bowel related illness.

"Boss, I got this weird green stuff coming out of my.."

"say no more!"

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haha yeah... the "I've got a bad stomach bug" excuse has saved my arse many a time!

Well I finally got a call back from the agency today.... they want me back for a second interview. This time with the same guy from the company in Austria and his boss.

I guess my test fuck-ups didn't adversely affect me too much

Downside.... it's not until April 1st

Upside.... gives me time to crash-course in Red Hat Linux
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Also, they never like to question any bowel related illness.

"Boss, I got this weird green stuff coming out of my.."

"say no more!"

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Yeah, except he wanted to get time off in advance. I'm assuming he wants to tell his boss he needs some days of in a month or so. You can't use the bowel excuse for that. "Boss, I'm going to have a bowel infection in two weeks". "Oh, all right then."
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Haha, yeah pretty much.

I don't know, I want to leave this place anyway, so I might just be honest about it. Worst thing that could happen is that I get sent home early/ fired. Not so much of a bad thing when we've jsut been asked to start 5am for a few days and work almost 12 hours.
That wouldn't be bad if I was doing "my job", instead of filling in the tight arsed bosses "needs" so that they don't have to employ another person, which is needed.
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Well, I have my first interview tomorrow. Not really a glamorous job- pre sales customer service. I've done it before and enjoyed it. Let's hope it goes well. I look forward to wearing decent clothes to work again and air con....oh man, the air con!

Just blasted Paradise to celebrate.
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Good luck man!

I'm trying to gain employment too, as I've discovered living in the city and being a uni student is a lethal combination for my fundings.
Now I just have to decide where I want to apply...
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Thanks. You too. Anywhere in particular you'd like to work? I'm assuming flexible hours would be a must. I remember when I started they said that working at servo's in night shift was good because it allowed for time to study between customers.
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Thanks. You too. Anywhere in particular you'd like to work? I'm assuming flexible hours would be a must. I remember when I started they said that working at servo's in night shift was good because it allowed for time to study between customers.
I just want weekend work for the moment, and then if they need me on the occasional weekday and it doesn't interfere with uni I can do that too.

I'm thinking maybe JB Hifi or EB Games if they have any places. There's also a few Health Food shops I'd like to work at, which I could hopefully get being an Alternative Med student.
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Ah, the JB dream job haha. I hope you have some retail experience, they seem to only take people who know what retail/ sales is all about from what I've seen.
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