The Peel - 9th October

[Volcane]

Thanks to everyone who came to the show - our first with the new lineup!

Thanks to all the other bands and Allan from Crimson Altar for putting the show together!

[Baletempest]

Thank you for putting on such a great show, the new material sounds fantastic, can't wait to hear it on record. It was really nice to meet you Sonia and Dee sorry my brain was so fried and I wasn't much convo.

[RayneEvil]

It was great to see you guys for the first time ever.

If you're interested, there's a review on http://www.londonrockdaily.com and there should be one on here sometime soon too.

[Volcane]

You actually thought it was worth pointing that review out to us?

[Volcane]

Originally Posted by Baletempest

Thank you for putting on such a great show, the new material sounds fantastic, can't wait to hear it on record. It was really nice to meet you Sonia and Dee sorry my brain was so fried and I wasn't much convo.

Thanks Baletempest. It was good to finally meet you too mate. We were a bit frazzled too. I'll catch you at the next show.

[RayneEvil]

Originally Posted by Volcane

You actually thought it was worth pointing that review out to us?

Sorry if you can't take critism. I know it's not a great review and neither is the one on here but surely you should actually think about why stuff like that is being said.

[RayneEvil]

Female Voices Of Metal Festival 2005 – Kingston, The Peel - 09/10/2005

[Volcane]

Originally Posted by RayneEvil

Sorry if you can't take critism. I know it's not a great review and neither is the one on here but surely you should actually think about why stuff like that is being said.

Don't give that 'you can't take criticism' crap! You miss my point entirely. I don't care the tiniest bit what you write in your review, if you love us or hate us, you're entitiled to say what you think.

We can take criticism, no problem there at all, but to actively post a link to a review on a band's forum where you accuse them of looking like 'hookers', the frontwoman as 'disturbing' rather than 'sexy', and then round the review off saying that we merely served as foreplay to Season's End just seems to kind of hammer the point home in an unecessary way.

[Obsydian]

Originally Posted by RayneEvil

Sorry if you can't take critism. I know it's not a great review and neither is the one on here but surely you should actually think about why stuff like that is being said.

Unfortunately with the review there is very little justification or explanation of the comments that are made, so instead of constructive critcism, all there is is just criticism. The language used by the reviewer appears to be serve only as an attempt, for want of a better word, to appear 'cool' and appeal to a certain audience.

It's very difficult to write a critical review, and by critical here I mean characterised by careful, exact evaluation and judgement, and even more so when the length of a review is severly limited due to space constraints, something that the review here on UM gets much closer to achieving.

It's my personal opinion that a review should inform the reader whilst allowing them to form their own opinions. This is unfortunately rarely achieved, with reviewers tending to either follow popular opinion, or court controversy for the sake of it.

[Razorjack]

Originally Posted by Volcane

Don't give that 'you can't take criticism' crap! You miss my point entirely. I don't care the tiniest bit what you write in your review, if you love us or hate us, you're entitiled to say what you think.

We can take criticism, no problem there at all, but to actively post a link to a review on a band's forum where you accuse them of looking like 'hookers', the frontwoman as 'disturbing' rather than 'sexy', and then round the review off saying that we merely served as foreplay to Season's End just seems to kind of hammer the point home in an unecessary way.

Rayne did not write the review on London Rock Daily but simply pointed out something that she thought may be of interest to you, she did however write the review in the Live reviews section of this site.

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/s...28#post4107828

If you see, she makes no comments about 'hookers' or being 'disturbing' and does not make you out to be 'foreplay' for SE. If the other review said those things and you feel they are slanderous then take up your problem with the editor of LRD and the writer in question.

Talk about jumping to conclusions.

[RayneEvil]

Originally Posted by Volcane

Don't give that 'you can't take criticism' crap! You miss my point entirely. I don't care the tiniest bit what you write in your review, if you love us or hate us, you're entitiled to say what you think.

We can take criticism, no problem there at all, but to actively post a link to a review on a band's forum where you accuse them of looking like 'hookers', the frontwoman as 'disturbing' rather than 'sexy', and then round the review off saying that we merely served as foreplay to Season's End just seems to kind of hammer the point home in an unecessary way.

For starters, I would never write shit like that, however much I hate a band. As you've basically pointed out, it's pretty damm rude. Please don't jump to conclusions about me writing that as I'm not that much of a cow. Secondly, and I really apologise for this, I didn't fully read the review as I was fucking pissed off too much about the fact it got posted when I in fact had written a review for the same site but there was miscommunication. I just knew the review was there and didn't assume it would cause this much offence. Still, however rude it is, just do the professional thing and laugh it off. Or, if you're really that bothered, go complain directed to the right people, not me.