Nevermore - Dreaming Neon Black - Page 2

NK · February 12th, 2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Genius Gone Insane

That's so funny, I never noticed that until you brought it up. I got that album way before I got into recording and always assumed it was supposed to sound that way. Cool.

Well..with all due respect, it certainly wasn't intentional. There was a time back then that any album that had a lot of gain would clip older systems. The main issue for DNB was the fact that I mixed the bass nice and loud, and while it was fine on HDCD systems, it apparently gave a few older (particularly car) stereo systems fits and problems.

As I've always said, I do accept responsibilty for this anomaly. As per usual, I was just trying to make the album sound as full and powerful as possible, but this one came back and bit me in the arse. Ouch! As you can imagine, this is a considerable source of embarrassment.

For any inconvenience regarding DNB, I most certainly apologise. For those people who still experience issues, hopefully as time passes, along with the acquisition of newer stereo gear, you'll no longer hear these artifacts that are experienced by older stereo equipment due to their lower headroom capability.

Brett - K A L I S I A · February 12th, 2006, 08:34 PM

Or the label could ask Andy to remix it ! Hahaha

Ermz · February 12th, 2006, 08:51 PM

^ Ooh, don't go there man... haha.

@NK: Certainly appreciated that you take responsibility for it.. but I mean really, it was an unforseeable circumstance, and its hardly a huge issue. We were still given a great album with great production, regardless if it clipped our systems. So thanks!

derek · February 16th, 2006, 05:46 PM

It was a technical things that almost no-one outside music production would ever notice. The job done on DNB was phenomenal, entirely. It was a wonderful mix.

NK · February 16th, 2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brett - K A L I S I A

Or the label could ask Andy to remix it ! Hahaha

Why, thanks a lot Brett.

Brett - K A L I S I A · February 16th, 2006, 07:21 PM

haha, see, I can be funny sometimes,

Daemonicide · September 4th, 2007, 08:09 PM

Neil, were Van's kicks miced or triggered? If micked, how did you get that incredible tone and punch? Plus the wetmess of the drums is EXCELLENT!!! I love DNB!!

Tym Walker
Daemonicide

NK · September 4th, 2007, 08:16 PM

They were miced, and then I mixed a sample in a bit for sonic consistency.

Kevin Kitchel · October 17th, 2007, 03:15 PM

The guitars have a totally awesome "speaker excursion" quality to them on that album that I have striven for ever since I heard it. Hands down, this is the best Nevermore disc all around, and I've been a fan since Sanctuary. This album sounds so good loud, as opposed to the recent ones that sound worse as you turn them up.

Dendura · October 19th, 2007, 09:34 PM

ahlan Neil! (that's hello in arabic), Dreaming Neon Black is one of my favorite Nevermore albums. I remember hearing Christine Rhoades, the female vocalist in the title track, was in another band before, do you remember which band that was? I hope all is well with you. - Aziza

NK · October 19th, 2007, 10:15 PM

I remember seeing her band play live when I lived in Seattle. I'll have to think more about the band name though - it escapes me at the moment. I think I only saw them once or twice. They were very good - sort of goth/industrial.

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February 12th, 2006, 08:51 PM	#28 (permalink)
Ermz Ma baws ist Krieg Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 14,692	^ Ooh, don't go there man... haha. @NK: Certainly appreciated that you take responsibility for it.. but I mean really, it was an unforseeable circumstance, and its hardly a huge issue. We were still given a great album with great production, regardless if it clipped our systems. So thanks! __________________ Quality Professional Recording \| Mixing \| Mastering REAMPING: Peavey 6505 \| Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier \| Mesa Boogie Rectifier Standard 4x12 \| Sansamp PSA-1.1

February 16th, 2006, 05:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
derek Grey Eminence Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Plzeň, Czech Republic Posts: 17,581	It was a technical things that almost no-one outside music production would ever notice. The job done on DNB was phenomenal, entirely. It was a wonderful mix. __________________ Clarion Call.

February 16th, 2006, 07:21 PM	#31 (permalink)
Brett - K A L I S I A www.kalisia.com Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: France Posts: 3,394	haha, see, I can be funny sometimes, __________________ Brett Caldas-Lima www.kalisia.com (Progressive Death Metal Band) www.myspace.com/kalisia www.towerstudio.net (Metal Oriented Studio) www.myspace.com/towerstudio

September 4th, 2007, 08:09 PM	#32 (permalink)
Daemonicide Tymmie!... Tymmah*^$ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: TN (USA) Posts: 11	Neil, were Van's kicks miced or triggered? If micked, how did you get that incredible tone and punch? Plus the wetmess of the drums is EXCELLENT!!! I love DNB!! Tym Walker Daemonicide __________________ "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my (Jesus) name shall they cast out demons; they shall speak with new tounges..." (Jesus Speaking) St.Mark c.16 v.17

September 4th, 2007, 08:16 PM	#33 (permalink)
NK Complete Bastard Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: USA Posts: 913	They were miced, and then I mixed a sample in a bit for sonic consistency. __________________ Neil K. http://www.auslander.net http://myspace.com/neilkernon "If what you want from a movie is a lot of Stallone looking morose and pensive before suddenly going apeshit, then Rambo is your kind of experience"

October 17th, 2007, 03:15 PM	#34 (permalink)
Kevin Kitchel Junior Muppet Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 269	The guitars have a totally awesome "speaker excursion" quality to them on that album that I have striven for ever since I heard it. Hands down, this is the best Nevermore disc all around, and I've been a fan since Sanctuary. This album sounds so good loud, as opposed to the recent ones that sound worse as you turn them up. __________________ kitchel.net

October 19th, 2007, 09:34 PM	#35 (permalink)
Dendura Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 171	ahlan Neil! (that's hello in arabic), Dreaming Neon Black is one of my favorite Nevermore albums. I remember hearing Christine Rhoades, the female vocalist in the title track, was in another band before, do you remember which band that was? I hope all is well with you. - Aziza __________________ Working on new album with Grammy Award Winning Producer Neil Kernon (album due out in 2009) for fans of Nevermore, After Forever, Queensryche, Orphaned Land http://www.myspace.com/denduraband Official Forum http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/dendura-457/ Check out Aziza's new project! http://www.azizaworld.com

October 19th, 2007, 10:15 PM	#36 (permalink)
NK Complete Bastard Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: USA Posts: 913	I remember seeing her band play live when I lived in Seattle. I'll have to think more about the band name though - it escapes me at the moment. I think I only saw them once or twice. They were very good - sort of goth/industrial. __________________ Neil K. http://www.auslander.net http://myspace.com/neilkernon "If what you want from a movie is a lot of Stallone looking morose and pensive before suddenly going apeshit, then Rambo is your kind of experience"