Supreme Court upholds health care law

[Dead Winter]

All of it.

It's about time someone in the government pulled their heads out of their ass and joined the 19th century.

[refraction]

Frankly Im shocked they did. But pleased all the same.

[El Stormo]

Good thing for the American people, that's for sure. I'm not a communist, but denying affordable healthcare to all citizens is criminal, and everyone who opposes such a law simply does so because he wants to stuff more money in his pockets.

[Craysh3]

Socialism is not a curse word, god fucking dammit... Universal Health Care and Education are the stamps of prosperous, civil, and sensible countries all across the globe, period.

[El Stormo]

Originally Posted by Craysh3

Socialism is not a curse word, god fucking dammit...

This is something that's always baffled me, how so many Americans think socialism = communism.

In its true form, socialism is simply the same as showing solidarity and looking out for each other.

[Captain Beard]

Another 5-4 eh. Those happen way more often than I'm comfortable with.

[~Lynn~]

Originally Posted by El Stormo

In its true form, socialism is simply the same as showing solidarity and looking out for each other.

The problem is in this country we reward people very handsomly for being lazy, completely irresponsible and providing the graveytrain avenue oh so willingly. Entitlements for irresponsibility has created a plague here. I can comfortably afford my and my GF health plan without an issue as it is less than many of my friends spend on ciggarettes, booze and beer a month.

But whatever, let the sham continue I'll just sit back an admire the folly.

[~Lynn~]

Originally Posted by Captain Beard

Another 5-4 eh. Those happen way more often than I'm comfortable with.

Oh just wait and see what the Holder faggotry gets turned into..

[Captain Beard]

Well my comment had to do with many important cases including Heller being 5-4, it's a little disturbing. I don't know much about Holder beyond his involvement in that failure of an ATF power grab "Fast and Furious."

[nckissfan]

government shouldn't force people to purchase something. This is why they reworded the bill as a tax, because it is unconstitutional to make a citizen buy something.

I have no problem getting healthcare. Like ~Lynn~ said, there are way too many lazy fucking sheep, sucking on the tit of society. I, agree, some people need help, but there are a lot of capable people that are not doing their part.

[neal]

Originally Posted by ~Lynn~

The problem is in this country we reward people very handsomly for being lazy, completely irresponsible and providing the graveytrain avenue oh so willingly. Entitlements for irresponsibility has created a plague here.

Originally Posted by nckissfan

government shouldn't force people to purchase something. This is why they reworded the bill as a tax, because it is unconstitutional to make a citizen buy something.

guess i better get a physical and full test panel before my employer-provided healthcare, that i also pay a lot for, and as a 'benefit' is something they provide instead of a higher salary, is fucking useless. cant wait till there are a million worthless bums with a hang-nail in front of me next time i go to the hospital, and then they just send me home because tests are too expensive.


i agree the health system is fucked up in this country, and costs are out of control, but how the hell does forcing everyone who can afford it, and providing (with our taxes) for those that cant afford it, to join the fucked up system do anything at all to fix the fucked up system? its still fucked, except now it costs way more.

[E-bortion]

supreme court upholds your mom

[neal]

this guy gets it

[~Lynn~]

As far as this poke (political) started by an inflamitory person, that has never had to employ let alone manage a buisiness Chris sure is an expert. This is a very teetory tottery experiment which in times past has gone very wrong.

I'll be glad to articulate in personal conversation in PM's

[~Lynn~]

Originally Posted by neal

guess i better get a physical and full test panel before my employer-provided healthcare, that i also pay a lot for, and as a 'benefit' is something they provide instead of a higher salary, is fucking useless. cant wait till there are a million worthless bums with a hang-nail in front of me next time i go to the hospital, and then they just send me home because tests are too expensive.


i agree the health system is fucked up in this country, and costs are out of control, but how the hell does forcing everyone who can afford it, and providing (with our taxes) for those that cant afford it, to join the fucked up system do anything at all to fix the fucked up system? its still fucked, except now it costs way more.

Neil, brother it is amongst us now. OK here is an example of how shit works, last weekend we had a major offshore boat race generating a shit ton of cash into a local economy. A VERY WEALTHY Norweigen was nearly denied a visa to come throttle his own boat............yet we let the festering wound from south of the border waltz along...

[~Lynn~]

Hey again you can just ask chris, he's a worldy expert

[~Lynn~]

Goddammit Warrel bnag!

[~Lynn~]

I'll put it all plain and simple an maybe even Chris can understand..


U.S. Post Office, BROKE
Amtrak, BROKE
Medicare, BROKE
Social Security, BROKE
Fannie Mae, BROKE
Freddie Mac, BROKE
U. S. Treasury, 15 TRILLION IN THE RED......hmmmm\

I sure as hell don't like Romney but his fiscal tally leads for some hope.

[Krigloch the Furious]

who cares
we need another good plague, or an asteroid, or yellowstone to explode

[~Lynn~]

Plague.. the human cancer needs a painfull reminder,,,,,,,,

[derek]

Of what? That our folly leads to a catastrophic event? Yawn. That's almost as bad as believing in a bearded chap in the sky.

[Dead Winter]

Oh look, Lynn's pointing fingers again because his neo-con retarded, bible-thumping, greedy buddies didn't get their way. What a concept.

And don't call me by my first name, please. People may start thinking I actually acknowledge you as a human being and wouldn't spit in your face if I had the chance.

I don't give a fuck about your business. Millions of children and elderly people need affordable health care, and if you have to take one less vacation per year with the rest of your boating redneck white trash buddies in order to pay for universal health care, fucking suck it up.

And for the record, I am my own business. I am my own firm. I have costs, overhead, and taxes just like everyone else running their own business. Fucking at you thinking it's difficult running a business in America. Try starting up your own activity in Europe and see how far that gets you.

Jesus, idiots like you really make it too easy for me.

[Mr.Sister]

Congrats to all Americans.

[El Stormo]

Originally Posted by derek

Of what? That our folly leads to a catastrophic event? Yawn. That's almost as bad as believing in a bearded chap in the sky.

I firmly believe in the ascension of Billy Mays.

[Karmic]

Originally Posted by neal

i agree the health system is fucked up in this country, and costs are out of control, but how the hell does forcing everyone who can afford it, and providing (with our taxes) for those that cant afford it, to join the fucked up system do anything at all to fix the fucked up system? its still fucked, except now it costs way more.

probably because of the amount of people that don't have it and have no way of getting it, while desperately need it, are at a very large and still growing number. This is meant more for them than anyone else. Having it accessible for the people that need it the most is the first step, I would argue it's even more difficult in trying to fix a system when it cannot apply to all kinds of people.

this isn't denying that there are leeches on society as well, but preventing this does not change much for them, those problems need to be fixed from other directions, with regulations on whatever kind of welfare system you have over yonder.