Porcupine Tree

[LadyValerie]

Originally Posted by Belligerent

Then you will definitely like FOABP. (I believe it's been out for almost a year now). I think it's a step ahead for Porcupine Tree with the 17 minute prog-metal masterpiece "Anesthesize" featuring Alex Lifeson on one of the solos. The album even features Robert Fripp from King Crimson.
It's my favorite PT release so far.

Why are you calling them prog-metal

[Belligerent]

There are prog metal moments on FOABP.

[razoredge]

Originally Posted by Belligerent

There are prog metal moments on FOABP.

some people dont even know what metal is anymore. you use the term prog metal and they want to call it prog rock they get all uptight. prog rock was the likes of ELP, YES, Floyd and to my favored tastes primarily Rush and Kansas....... a far cry from Porcupine Tree, Porcupine Tree is a recent band so they incorporate Metal sounds and styles as much as they remind of older more rock oriented sounds. Fates Warning was a primary contender for the developement of prog metal, yet if younger people listened to their work from the 90's they would most likely say they were'nt even metal, yet their roots were in metal and their sound progressed and evolved, they are still a prog metal band.

[BloodSword]

In an interview I read with Steven Wilson he was asked, "so PT is considered a prog/rock band? Wison's reply(paraphrasing) "if you consider the term progression as movimg forward then I guess we are, but really were a "rock" band and nothing else, we play rock music." This interview was around the time of "deadwing's release.

[razoredge]

No different than Lemmy saying "were just a rock and roll band" yet Motorhead was far more than just another rock and roll band. But Lemmy has been around a long time so he's also aware that rock is a broad term that can easily be used to blanket all forms of music evolved from the rock n roll of the 50's thru today, which includes metal.

Not unlike Jazz which can be used to cover all the different styles of that type of music since the early 1900's

or "classical" which can be used to cover all forms of that style since whenever, which can even be applied to even many film soundtracks used throughout the past 100 years.

Then there the biggest blanket statement ever......... music

Its just all music

[BloodSword]

Oh, OK.

[razoredge]

glad to see it made sense to you......

[BloodSword]

Whenever I say "OH,OK" it's a sarcastic reply. You've never made any sense to me.

[ramses]

"progressive thinking?"

[ramses]

Just remember this...ask an idiot who needs radio to tell them what's "cool" or what to listen to what progressive rock/metal is, would think progressive is anything that has more than three chords and doesn't say -"yeah, rock, oooh, baby, love..." I think we can be assured that PT will get limited airplay on the radio, and that's the way I personally like it. They deinitely do what they want every album.

[CAIRATH]

Originally Posted by BloodSword

Whenever I say "OH,OK" it's a sarcastic reply. You've never made any sense to me.

Oh good, I was thinking that was just me.

Anyway, calling PT "prog metal" simply based on the fact that a handful of their songs have a few bits that could be construed as sounding "metal" is just silly. There were literally zero metal elements in any of their material before In Absentia (by far the bulk of their discography) and even after that the elements that could be considered metal are extremely sporadic.

Porcupine Tree are a rock band. I don't even feel like going into whether that should be prefixed with the "prog" qualifier or not. But they certainly aren't in any way a metal band.