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Old February 4th, 2008, 07:18 PM   #76 (permalink)
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On another note, I've been listening to a lot of their older stuff lately: Signify, The Sky Moves Sideways, On The Sunday of Life. Man, there's some great stuff buried in those older albums...
Listen to this man. Disc 1 off of their Stars Die compilation 1991-94 is a good introduction as well.
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Salsa fusion epileptic faggotry with mickey mouse doin vox. You don't need to put on some shinning to feel like comitting suicide...just blast some Mars Volta instead.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 09:34 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Wow, good post Razors. You're right about the time signiature thing, it's just an element that alot of Prog bands add. Rush played in 4/4 a lot & I've been listening to a lot of ELP lately & most of their old stuff seems like it's in 4/4. These bands definitely switch it up & change direction in songs, however...

By your definition PT might be Prog, but I don't think In Absentia is because the songs are short & straight forward with only some minor experimentation later in the album. Thing is that a lot of non-Prog bands do weird shit on albums, & PT just lay down some airy well produced bass lines in there a bit.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 09:49 PM   #78 (permalink)
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The term "prog" always has been and still is a terrible qualifier for music. Just like "experimental" and "avant-garde". All of those terms are relative, highly subjective and none of them mean anything by themselves so you can pretty much argue 'til kingdom come about which bands they do and do not apply to.

It all depends on your frame of reference and which aspects of music you emphasize.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 10:24 PM   #79 (permalink)
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thanks Shredhead, I cant speak for In Absentia, I do like my Deadwing though

Cairath - the thing is, for me, what else can be done when bands need to be placed together at least for a means to alert people that they may be interested it _____ band if they also like ______ band. This way with the progressive term Im aware I might like other bands that are also progressive, but by my understanding of progressive I dont necessarily expect for example... Dream Theater type of approach, I realize the vast variants of qualifers due to the differences there has always been within the genre. I just know Im in for one kind of trip or another, a musical adventure, thus one of the old slang terms... head music.

edit : pay close attention to the drumming on PT, I didnt until the guy that turned me on to them, a drummer, made me listen. If nothing else, that dude is definantly progressive to the full defination of the word. Lots of little things going on in there, subtle little things, yet intricate. Really great stuff!

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Old February 5th, 2008, 06:18 AM   #80 (permalink)
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Is Deadwing better than Fear of a Blank Planet??? I want to check out one of them.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 04:49 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Deadwing is pretty solid but I have to get the nod to FOABP as I think it is strong from start to finish.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 08:13 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Get FOABP instead. It's more rewarding.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 08:22 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Old February 5th, 2008, 08:32 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Or that.

Unless you're limited on money or something and have to choose one, go with FOABP.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 08:59 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Huge PT fan here.. but I find "Fear of a Blank Planet" to be rather boring.... with the exception of the gorgeous "Sentimental". I definately prefer "Deadwing".
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Old February 5th, 2008, 09:54 PM   #86 (permalink)