Controversial non-metal opinions

[Belligerent]

Originally Posted by EyeballKid

This marks my "done with this thread" point.

This marks my "this is supposed to be controversial hence the name of the thread" point.




btw, don't take it personal. Just me being a smartass.

[razoredge]

Originally Posted by Belligerent

This marks my "this is supposed to be controversial hence the name of the thread"

yes but controversial holds some validity, classifications such as gay or sucks hold none and is only sending things back down the crapper we crawled of when we got moderators.

[Belligerent]

If Mathias or Toenail have a problem with my list they can take it up with me. Obviously the classic rock bands I dislike were controversial...again, the name of the thread.

[razoredge]

classic rock bands ? whats that ? now this could be a legitimate controversy.......

[Satanstoenail]

I'm only keeping this open because it's been really quiet in here lately. I actually deleted this thread the last time Ozzman tried it. Frankly I don't really see any value in this sort of shit. The only discussion that's gone on in here has been the retarded exchange that Southern Trendkill initiated (seriously, popularity = quality? ). Everything else has pretty much "I think such and such sucks", followed by "OMG I can't believe you think that". Fucking awesome.

[SouthernTrendkill]

Eh, I don't see why people would have any problem with it. IMHO it's a lot easier to take controversial opinions in a thread like this instead of in any other place. You know what to expect and it's dettached to an extent.

As for your lack of respect for my disucssion -- that's just elitism.

[The Ozzman]

Originally Posted by Satanstoenail

I'm only keeping this open because it's been really quiet in here lately. I actually deleted this thread the last time Ozzman tried it.

That's why I was surprised when I woke up the next morning and it wasn't locked.

[TylerTheNuke]

Originally Posted by SouthernTrendkill

Oh yay, this will be fun.

Things that are popular are generally of high quality. Things that aren't popular are NOT necessarily of lesser quality, since there are a lot of factors that effect popularity beyond just quality. But if a band is selling millions of records then I think that means they are pretty damn fucking good at what they do. Like for example, boy band music might suck, but The Backstreet Boys must be damn great at it to be so huge. Nobody's opinion is worth more than anyone else's, so that lends credit to popularity. Even if the corporate masters are pulling the strings to make some hack popular, if it's music that is moving to thousands of people, then it is quality music. There has to be at least one thing great about it for it to do that.

I don't agree with your argument, but I agree with your conclusion. If millions like an album, that just means that millions liked it, not that it is good. Seriously, to make a hit these days, all you need is a catchy melody and garageband, which is what some hits actually sound like. Now, I saw your point about the subjectivity of music, and it is an argument repeated very much, but it is stupid. There is fudge factor, because nobody completly agrees on what exactly good music is, however, most people have a similar conception of the definition of "good" (it is creative, lots of work was put into it, was skillfully made, and/or it has emotional impact), and this is actually objective for the most part. I agree that consistantly popular music (aka, not one hit artists) is usually really good. They aren't lucky, they know how to hit the people.

[Mathiäs]

Originally Posted by Satanstoenail

I really can't be arsed with this thread. I'm sure it'll get the most responses we've seen in here in a while though.

People love these threads fsr

Originally Posted by Belligerent

So I'm going to post a few love and hate's in classic rock. I'm sure a few are controversial but fuck you wankers i don't care.

I love: The Allman Brothers, Floyd, Zeppelin, The Doors, Beatles, Sabbath, Deep Purple, King Crimson, Yes, Cream, Blind Faith, Robin Trower, Camel, Moody Blues, UFO, Rolling Stones

Hates: Rush (except for Temple of Syrinx because Geddy barely sings)
Elton John
Billy Joel
Queen
Supertramp
The Who
Dio era Sabbath
AcDc
Aerosmith
...basically anything gay

K, hold on a sec...

- Have you heard Aerosmith's Get Your Wings? Or any of the other earlier album? GYW is fucking awesome and it's kind of hard to believe you don't like it. The new stuff is total shit, obviously.
- What Queen stuff have you heard? I can people hating their gay stuff like Bicycle (I like it ) but they were a huge influence on progressive metal.
- Have you heard Who's Next?

Originally Posted by Satanstoenail

I'm only keeping this open because it's been really quiet in here lately. I actually deleted this thread the last time Ozzman tried it. Frankly I don't really see any value in this sort of shit. The only discussion that's gone on in here has been the retarded exchange that Southern Trendkill initiated (seriously, popularity = quality? ). Everything else has pretty much "I think such and such sucks", followed by "OMG I can't believe you think that". Fucking awesome.

Hah basically. No need to close it unless it turns into an all out flame war (which will probably happen)

[Feathers & Flames]

Originally Posted by v2kv

Lol where are you getting these ideas? If most rock vocalists (at least the classic ones) suck then which ones are better? Sure as hell not metal vocalists, hip-hop hell no...

Its just my opinion. Ok? By the way I meant with modern Rock. Most modern Rock vocalists in my opinion, either have crappy voices or just don't use their voices well.